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CaptainShuddup says

At least in my post I disclaimed that, those truly weren't my thoughts on it, I was just trying them on for size from your perspective.

Somehow you telling a sarcastic joke about murdered children in order to make your political point does not improve my opinion of you.

CaptainShuddup says

I guess outrage can only happen on "you're" side of the fence.

I guess you are only outraged by child murders that happen in red states.

Firstly, I am not a liberal.

Secondly, CptEvil You "DID" politicize the deaths of 18 children!

Thirdly, If anyone is attacking you it is well deserved.

Fourthly, I expect your thoughts to be convoluted and filled with desperation and misery, your EVIL. You continue to post hate, so stop deluding yourself and making excuses for yourself.

Your wrong.

Really, just trying on rhetoric "for size". Considering that your bedfellows just espoused taking guns and shooting other American citizens maybe you should apply your "outrage" properly. (or do you agree with Mel).

Dude you have logic issues....

121212 says

Secondly, You "DID" politicize the deaths of 18 children!

I just checked it is up to 22 dead kids :(

Anyone want to discuss this incident I would advise doing so in the original thread.

Because it's too embarrassing for you to complain about liberals in this thread where conservatives talk about shooting other Americans?

NO because unlike 121212 I'm not here to hijack Shrecks farewell tour.

Don't worry about Shrek, I'm way more fascinated by your attacks on liberals for this school shooting instead of attacking Shrek (and others) for saying let's shoot other Americans.

DukeLaw says

Don't worry about Shrek, I'm way more fascinated by your attacks on liberals for this school shooting instead of attacking Shrek (and others) for saying let's shoot other Americans.

Very telling about the nature of one CaptainShuddup.

DukeLaw says

I'm way more fascinated by your attacks on liberals for this school shooting instead of attacking Shrek (and others) for saying let's shoot other Americans.

that's nice. The thread is in Misc.

CptEviil has no moral center. Invoking Innocent children deaths to make a rhetorical political or ironic comedy point as he claims. It's disgusting

Your right, considering he supports the ideals of Shrek and worse don;t expect a rational conversation about gun control.

His duty is to stop that.

@Patrick, does the aliases function work? I've never seen any aliases for Shrek and his later incarnations.

Dan8267 says

@Patrick, does the aliases function work? I've never seen any aliases for Shrek and his later incarnations.

At one point Shrek just changed the name on his/her account.

I think that also his accounts got totally deleted, so they would not show up as aliases.

Shrek + Ruki = Call it Crazy

Always was.

leo707 says

I think that also his accounts got totally deleted, so they would not show up as aliases.

The alias function was going to be a report on users who share IP addresses. So if Shrek had created multiple accounts, but every posted from the same place (work, home, etc.), those accounts would show up as possible aliases. Of course, they could just be coworkers, or two different people in the same library/Starbucks.

I haven't seen any examples of aliases yet though.

Call it Crazy says

121212 says

Shrek + Ruki = Call it Crazy

Nice try....

I am very confident that Call it Crazy isn't Shrek. They are crazy in totally different ways.

Dan8267 says

Call it Crazy says

121212 says

Shrek + Ruki = Call it Crazy

Nice try....

I am very confident that Call it Crazy isn't Shrek. They are crazy in totally different ways.

I concur.

Dan8267 says

@Patrick, does the aliases function work? I've never seen any aliases for Shrek and his later incarnations.

But I think Patrick said there was no "history", so it would only show simulataneous aliases, but not deleted accounts that had once been on the same IP.

Dan8267 says

haven't seen any examples of aliases yet though.

I have found a few.

I think the problem with this feature is that it doesn't out the offensive posters because their old accounts are getting deleted and there is no memory function.

Dan8267 says

I haven't seen any examples of aliases yet though.

I have seen very few. This is the only one that I remembered seeing:
http://patrick.net/whoelse.php?user_ID=29060

121212 says

So clearly I am not Shrek, unlike you.

Christ, that just sounds like something Shrek would say. It's a broken sentence with apparently no reasoning behind it.

Dan8267 says

121212 says

So clearly I am not Shrek, unlike you.

Christ, that just sounds like something Shrek would say. It's a broken sentence with apparently no reasoning behind it.

Hmmmmm....

Call it Crazy says

Dan8267 says

I am very confident that Call it Crazy isn't Shrek. They are crazy in totally different ways.

Hey wait, I might be nuts but I can't come close to competing with Shrek.... he was way above my pay grade!!

http://www.youtube.com/embed/8idKzHfHqhY

User 121212 is just as bad.

I offer this as proof:
/?p=1219883

zzyzzx says

User 121212 is just as bad.

I offer this as proof:

/?p=1219883

I don't have https set up. So that URL is not going to work. You'll get some kind of certificate error. This works though, since it's just http:

/?p=1219883

OK, how about this comment here by 121212
/?p=1219889&c=910581#comment-910581
listen you son of bitch

Or maybe this one by 121212:
/?p=1219889&c=910594#comment-910594

Then 121212 complains about trollishness, but really need to look in the mirror

121212 says

I started that thread, it's not trolling.

LOL! You made my day.

I don't have https set up. So that URL is not going to work. You'll get some kind of certificate error. This works though, since it's just http:
/?p=1219883

I got tha extra S from the "Permalink"

121212 says

I started that thread, it's not trolling.

May be trolling, but now that everyone is moderator of their own threads, the best thing is just not to comment on threads made by obnoxious users.

If you say anything at all on their threads, they pop back to the top of the home page and get more attention.

Just start your own competing and more reasonable thread.

Philistine says

I think the problem with this feature is that it doesn't out the offensive posters because their old accounts are getting deleted and there is no memory function.

Actually, there is a separate memory of deleted IP addresses, the "nukelog" file.

I could incorporate that in the aliases function, which currently just looks at the latest IP address used for that user, but if someone is nuked, they should not be able to register under the same IP address again anyway. Unless I have a bug in that registration-blocking.

121212 says

Patrick, this guy should be banned. He spews hate a vitriol on every occasion.

Why don't you just "ignore" him? Why the demands to ban him from the forum? He's not threatening anyone, he's merely posting his (rather predictable) opinion. Many of 10 pound's (TPB, aka TOT, Done!, Captain Shuddup...) comments are offensive to someone. But this is a subjective call - I'm sure that there are others here who didn't find it as offensive as you did.

Remember that he didn't kill anyone nor did he incite anyone to violence. He voiced his opinion (and we all know that opinions are like assholes - everyone has one, and they all stink). If Patrick were to ban everyone that made an offensive comment none of us would be here.

Your reaction to him gave him plenty of play, and allowed his comment an extended life in multiple threads.

leo707 says

bob2356 says

121212=shrek?????

I think 121212=HRHMedia(sp?)=politifact(sp?)

of course she is, and i don't understand why patrick doesn't ban this mindless dolt just as quickly as her counterpart mentioned in the OP. maybe it's because, while the same level of clutter and trash, it is leftist trash, which seems to be treated a tad differently around these parts,,,,,,

errc says

i don't understand why patrick doesn't ban this mindless dolt just as quickly as her counterpart mentioned in the OP. maybe it's because, while the same level of clutter and trash, it is leftist trash, which seems to be treated a tad differently around these parts,,,,,,

Shrek stepped so far over the line time after time after time, attacking people and (finally) inciting violence that he was banned. I was surprised that Patrick allowed him to return so many times, but it's his forum.

But there's a difference between personal attacks & constant trolling versus the drivel that 121212 posts. While it is clutter & trash much of the time, most of it isn't personal attacks. Okay, some of it isn't personal attacks.

If 121212 continues in this manner, he/she's gonna implode or pop a vessel.

I used to like the Cap'n. He was funny and entertaining, but something happened between 2005 and now. I skim through his posts much of the time. But, seriously, wtf does this mean?:

121212 says

Your right, considering he supports the ideals of Shrek and worse don;t expect a rational conversation about gun control.

Shrek's "ideals????" You're taking this forum wayyyyy too seriously.

errc says

leo707 says

bob2356 says

121212=shrek?????

I think 121212=HRHMedia(sp?)=politifact(sp?)

of course she is, and i don't understand why patrick doesn't ban this mindless dolt just as quickly as her counterpart mentioned in the OP. maybe it's because, while the same level of clutter and trash, it is leftist trash, which seems to be treated a tad differently around these parts,,,,,,

Have to agree with this. It is cluttering up patnet fast.

I'm reposting this, because I anticipate 121212 will be deleting my post in response to his/her thread about how the NBA was so stunned & saddened by the shootings 75 miles away that they had a moment of silence before a game:

elliemae jumps on her soapbox and says

Really - the NBA was stunned and saddened? The rest of the country wasn't?

This isn't news - it's a way for the media to keep the story alive. I've got the teevee in the background right now and flipped to the following stations: MSNBC, CNN, Faux News, and the networks, which this very moment are still devoting constant programming to this tragic event.

The Yahoo front page has ten (out of fifty) stories directly related to the shootings, MSN.com has devoted its entire front page to the shootings, yesterday I saw interviews with two little kids who were in the school when the shootings occurred (talk about disgusting!), 20/20 & Dateline devoted their entire evening on Friday to the shootings, and every news site is constantly updating stories related to the shootings.

Every angle is being exploited by the news. We're privy to the shooter's family issues (father/brother), his diagnosis, how he got his guns, how he might have gotten more guns, people who weren't affected because they either called in sick or took another route to work that day, how the coroner feels, how the hospital workers felt when no mass casualties arrived, how the news anchors feel about reporting the stories... ad nauseum.

This was a horrible, tragic event. Words cannot describe the horror that those victims - and by victims, I mean everyone in the school, relatives of people in the school and the surrounding community - must have felt. My heart goes out to them. An event such as this invokes sadness to everyone who hears about it. It makes us want to hug and protect our own children.

While this mass shooting is certainly newsworthy, it's now being sensationalized by the media for financial gain. The networks will use the ratings (increased viewership) over this event as means to charge higher advertising rates.

At this point, we're not learning anything new. I know that my life isn't any richer because the coroner has determined that all of the victims died of gunshot wounds. It certainly isn't enhanced by seeing the photos of the victims or knowing their names. This very personal tragedy is being used to manipulate the public consciousness.

I can tell you whose lives will be richer: advertisers, and those people who are probably making plans for the made for teevee movies and books about the ordeal. Agents, producers and writers are most certainly descending upon this hurting community.

So, please forgive me if I don't give a shit about some basketball players who had a moment of silence because there was a mass shooting 75 miles away from where they were playing.

121212 says

zzyzzx what kind of person posts video of another mass murderer on a thread about a poor class of 1st graders being mass murdered? whats wrong with you?

"what kind of person? what's wrong with him?" Nothing!

From another thread (with a link to an op ed piece demanding that now is the time for gun control, as well as another link to a story about an NBA game that had a moment of silence):

121212 says

"...listen you son of bitch you made the first filthy disgusting comment on that thread!"...
...Liberal naivite! You coward. Another coward....
...I'm glad you felt it was needed to question me when that filth merchant you know your friend cptEvil spews absolute horse shit...
..Stop devaluing the situation. What pissed me off was the disgusting conservative response to an entire room of 1st graders being murdered...
...Still no apology..."

I'm thinking that you're not going to get an apology, because you don't deserve one. He did nothing to you, he posted his opinion on the interwebs in the same manner that you post yours.

121212 says (in that other thread)

to those who dislike this thread, get off it.

WTF?

121212 says

elimae your posts are never deleted, because infact this is the first time you have spoken with me.

1) It's "elliemae."
2) "in fact" (two words)

Your post leads one to believe that the only reason you've never deleted my posts is because I've never posted in your thread before.

121212 says

you can stop polluting this thread now.

So, is everyone who disagrees with you "polluting the thread?" I ask this because you've got quite the fan club growing.

I'm being facetious, btw.

121212 says

and yet your first thought, first post ranting against me was one that clearly stated
"I'm reposting this, because I anticipate 121212 will be deleting my post in response " You outright claim a falsehood.

I'm not sure that you understand what a "falsehood" (or perhaps a better word would be a "lie") would be. I stated my opinion that you would probably delete my comment, and since I truly believed that you would (based on your comments such as "to those who dislike this thread, get off it."), my comment wouldn't be a falsehood, or "lie."

121212 says

it's amazing to me elliemae that you spent so long trolling through posts to find something to say, then copy and paste my opinions and responses all the while adding nothing to the conversation.

It took no time at all. You see, there was a link to that particular thread (actually one of those specific comments). I'm glad that you think I'm amazing, although not surprised in the least. A lot of people do. (fyi, that's my opinion, so again - not a "falsehood.")

121212 says

ellie, no, but your welcome to chat with me on a thread with a relationship to our conversation , unlike this one!

"your" welcome to understand that we aren't chatting. We are posting concurrently on an internet forum.