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Bigsby says

I don't believe for a minute that the government

You have the right sway public opinion just as much as I do and hopefully my impact was much greater than yours I'm sure...

BTW : What injuries , all I see is powder and makeup

Bigbubbabear says

Bigsby says

I don't believe for a minute that the government

You have the right sway public opinion just as much as I do and hopefully my impact was much greater than yours I'm sure...

BTW : What injuries , all I see is powder and makeup

What impact? This is a real estate forum.

And seriously, are you delusional? Come on, do you really believe that the Boston bombing was a government orchestrated movie set or are you just on a wind up? I mean FFS, it's just utterly ridiculous. You are saying that every single person there, everyone, everyone within a reasonable proximity and not just those right next to the bombs, was in on this - every bloody person who could have run out of a building to help. That everything on video is fake. That all the injuries are make-up and previous amputees. That the dead people and those in hospital are what exactly? And that all those people working in the hospitals are simply in on it as well? All the media that have gone to the hospitals and the victims' homes? All the neighbours and friends...? Every fucking person in bloody Boston apparently.
You are a loon pure and simple. And if I were a conspiracy nut, then I'd actually think YOU were a paid government shill coming out with this level of bullshit.

Bigsby says

All the media

...and even Hitler had media propaganda program

So I presume YOU'RE going to fabricate another life long story to attempt to sway the populous just like a paid propagandist is supposed to do when an independent thinker, free from the constaints of influence of the state exposes the blatent truth

robertoaribas says

just in case his prior posts hadn't completely proven to everyone that big bubba was one stupid guy.... he does this. I will never read anything you write ever, you are a moronic ass. and a friend of mine was there.

Posts like yours are offensive.

Hopefully you'll stop posting your sockpuppet propaganda on anymore of Bubba's threads

Help! my prostetics falling off
http://www.youtube.com/embed/Hj0-Jd3nwlo

Bigbubbabear says

Bigsby says

All the media

...and even Hitler had media propaganda program

So I presume YOU'RE going to fabricate another life long story to attempt to sway the populous just like a paid propagandist is supposed to do when an independent thinker, free from the constaints of influence of the state exposes the blatent truth

You are on the wind up, aren't you? Fabricate another life long story? What are you on about?

And you're an independent thinker, are you? Independent from planet Earth that is. You do understand that there are one or two differences between media in 1933-1945 Nazi Germany and media in 2013 America. You do, don't you? Please tell me you do.

Bigsby says

some bloke who has just had both legs blown off.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/UVIMsLMyDMU&feature=player_embedded

Bigbubbabear says

Bigsby says

some bloke who has just had both legs blown off.

&feature=player_embedded

Let's just ignore for a minute the sick minded fucker who put that video together... the video is saying the explosion was real (naturally a government conspiracy to them), so why are you linking to it? And someone needs to explain to me why, if it's a real bomb as this video states, do they need to have an actor pretending to have his legs blown off? What do real bombs do?

Bigsby says

Let's just ignore for a minute the sick minded fucker who put that video together

Well then let me tone it down for you...

http://www.youtube.com/embed/xhZk8ronces

Oh, good grief. What the hell has that got to do with the Boston bombing? No one is arguing on here that certain (government) agencies don't get up to no good, so what is your point?

You are arguing that everything that happened in Boston was fake - not a bomb planted by some government agency, but a piece of theatre. You are batshit crazy if you think that.

And you still didn't address my point about why you linked to that video seeing as it contradicts your claims. Did you even watch it?

lostand confused says

When the govt stops caring for the majority and is extremely corrupt and nowadays with the Patriot act, the ability of the President to detain anyone indefnitely with no charges, people will naturally start believeing anything.

Exactly.
It always sounds like the people that adamantly denounce any alternative narratives, and paint them all with the "conspiracy theory" brush (as if there are never any conspiracies) believe EVERYTHING that the government and corporate media feed them.
Most people that have read any history at all understand that the government lies, and attempts to manipulate public opinion, all the damn time in matters large and small. (e.g., the Assad regime is using chemical weapons)
I don't know what happened on 911, or any of these instances, but I do know that they lied us into most, and all recent, wars. I do know that the FBI works diligently manufacturing little "terror" plots to justify their mission and further their agenda.
How do the credulous folks have such faith in their ability to discern exactly when these greed-driven, power-mad maniacs are lying?
I don't embrace the most outlandish alternative narratives but I sure as hell don't believe the government scripted media production that folks seem to accept without question.

Everyone is aware of actions undertaken for regime change, things like Iran-Contra, etc. etc. and no one is denying that they take place, but there's a gargantuan step from those to, for example, the 9/11 conspiracy so beloved of Bgamall. And getting back to the thread at hand, do you or do you not believe what Bigbubbabear is peddling on here - that Boston wasn't even a bombing but a bit of red paint pantomime!?

Bigsby says

Everyone is aware of actions undertaken for regime change, things like Iran-Contra, etc. etc. and no one is denying that they take place

I don't know if that is accurate.

Bigsby says

do you or do you not believe what Bigbubbabear is peddling on here - that Boston wasn't even a bombing but a bit of red paint pantomime!

I don't believe that. I don't know if that is what he believes.
I know that the FBI is managing the dissemination of information about its contact with these dopes. In the context of its active roll in a dozen recent "terror plots" it makes me skeptical of any of their press releases.
Why won't anybody acknowledge the presence of Craft military subcontractors at the scene?
People that have dealt with the FBI for decades (Jessie Trentadue, there is a "conspiracy' that I believe) say they will lie just to be lying.

robertoaribas says

just in case his prior posts hadn't completely proven to everyone that big bubba was one stupid guy.... he does this. I will never read anything you write ever, you are a moronic ass. and a friend of mine was there.

Posts like yours are offensive.

regardless of whether you think bubba's posts are stupid or not, why are you always so quick to insult people? Every post I see of yours is either bragging about yourself or insulting others. If someone posts something you disagree with, your response is always something along the lines of "you are dumb", "you are an idiot, etc, etc, etc."

Do you ever get the idea that people do not like you? It seems that way to me on these posts.

donjumpsuit says

the people who believe and prorogation them, believe that the government is actually capable of pulling off a hoax on such a grand scale.

I don't believe that, but I rarely take the dominant narrative at face value. People that do seem foolish.
Read about the many actual, verified false flag events.
These were conspiracies.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/htd2bKX8EtQ&feature=player_embedded

http://www.integratedtrainingsummit.org/presentations/2008/main_training_summit/course_18_-_tale_of_two_cities_and_the_running_of_a_planned_mass_casualty_event_-_serino_richard.pdf

Robert Sproul says

Read about the many actual, verified false flag events.
These were
conspiracies.

Examples?

The Gulf of Tonkin incident is the one that made me realize that they would stop at nothing.
The CIA "communist bombers" that destabilized Iran in the 50's seems applicable.
Operation Northwoods (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1) was a daft fever dream of the hawks of that era.
Maybe they got more sophisticated in ways of realizing their ambition of permanent warfare, you tell me.

Robert Sproul says

The Gulf of Tonkin incident is the one that made me realize that they would stop
at nothing

Huh? I'm not expert, but it seems to me like it was more the fog of war--not a premeditated action--and most certainly not a false flag.

Robert Sproul says

The CIA "communist bombers" that destabilized Iran in the 50's seems
applicable.

Again--how is this a false flag??

Robert Sproul says

Operation Northwoods (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1) was a
daft fever dream of the hawks of that era.
Maybe they got more sophisticated
in ways of realizing their ambition of permanent warfare, you tell me.

And proposals that were rejected--that's your evidence?

Bigbubbabear says

I haven't proven I'm right, yet

you haven't proven me wrong!

You're the genius who started this topic, so you have to prove it.

Calling someone crazy whose version of the truth differs from your own is called "gas lighting" and it's a favorite trick of sociopaths.

rooemoore says

Bigbubbabear says

I haven't proven I'm right, yet

you haven't proven me wrong!

You're the genius who started this topic, so you have to prove it.

So what you mean to tell me is that media bias is nonexistent......

By definition there aren't different versions of the truth. There is truth and there are lies.

tatupu70 says

Huh? I'm not expert, but it seems to me like it was more the fog of war--not a premeditated action--and most certainly not a false flag.

tatupu70 says

Again--how is this a false flag??

tatupu70 says

And proposals that were rejected--that's your evidence?

Well then, that's settled.
You changed my mind with nitpicking and semantics.
I have a new found trust in the obviously benign methods and goals of what I had thought of as a self seeking Military/Industrial War Machine.
I shall slander their completely transparent and above board actions no more.

Robert Sproul says

Well then, that's settled.

You changed my mind with nitpicking and semantics.

Really--you're calling the difference between an overaggressive soldier mistakenly firing at night and the US government orchestrating a hoax and killing its own citizens "semantics" and "nitpicking"

Are you kidding me?

tatupu70 says

an overaggressive soldier mistakenly firing at night

See you'll believe anything.
tatupu70 says

killing its own citizens

The same government that kills 45k of its citizens every year because of its corrupt kowtowing to the "health care" cartels? They would never fail to restrain the war profiteers.
You trust 'em friend, I don't.
They now claim the right to kill you without trial, I really do hope they are who you think they are and not who I think they are.

Robert Sproul says

See you'll believe anything.

I'll believe what the facts show to be the truth.

Robert Sproul says

The same government that kills 45k of its citizens every year because of its corrupt kowtowing to the "health care" cartels? They would never fail to restrain the war profiteers.

You trust 'em friend, I don't.

They now claim the right to kill you without trial, I really do hope they are who you think they are and not who I think they are.

Where do you get the idea that I always trust the government? The government is made of people--some trustworthy, some not. Like I said--I try to look at things objectively and let the facts guide me.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/_8IOo4hjlmE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/embed/yLGCp-AYee8&feature=youtube_gdata_player