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Goran_K says

The Jews came after him for these claims.

If someone claims "the son of God" today and has many followers, I am sure the government/church/vigilant will come after him too.

Edit: Also if someone creates some food out of thin air and doesn't pay tax, IRS and FDA will come after him.

xenogear3 says

Goran_K says

The Jews came after him for these claims.

If someone claims "the son of God" today and has many followers, I am sure the government/church/vigilant will come after him too.

Or men in white coats.

Look I have Hebrew relatives. They aren't insane. If indeed there was a "God" for them to deal with. Even they can fucking add. They might think hey the guy made the solar system. Fucking with him might get us all killed. A Christian might reccon they don't recognize Jesus, thats the problem. However Hebrews understand that Jesus is a bullshit story made from whole cloth. No one stops to think that the Hebrews are nothing but a family. That no one really knew that Jesus guy. You get the other asshole semites trying to pretend their way in. Hebrews can get confused because their now is a lot of them. Sometimes they don't recognize that other Semites like the game to.

One more time. I guess no one caught it. 9 different Semetic peoples. They all have their own religions. Many of them some very similar to the Hebrews. They all have their take on it. For example. Zoroastrianism, Iran recognizes that as a religion. See. Semites like fucking with this stuff obviously. They like fucking with each other with this stuff and everyone else. A Hebrew will say hey thats my family. Not say much. Anyone else that screwing with you. Probably isn't Hebrew. So Hebrews don't figure some Luddite in the picture is fucking with them about Zoroaster. Or Zoro-roaster as I like to call him. See so just like these assholes that like to make up religions to confuse everyone. Thats how you got Christianty.

Religion is tried and true. Governments love them. You have to pacify people. Its a Governments fucking duty. Or people will overrun them. I point out a Rockefeller in the old Trustbuster days. Half the country was screaming for his blood. The Government because you have a monetary system based on lending which they have to borrow from. Must stand in the way of you and the other very disgruntled. So they can get more funding. It's very simple. It's one more buffer so the lenders or usury people can feel safe. The government will even cooperate in selling their products. Like homes and loans. stocks, autos and auto loans etc. No one ever stops to think the government is doing business with these people. A lot of it to. So BP, Standard, Exxon and Chevron is very important to the government. Why? Your government needs more funding. Imano, imano. They are also in debt. They owe, they owe so its off to work they go. Its very simple stuff really. Don't twist yourself into a pretzel for anyone. The pacifism of 200 million potentially many of who could be a very dangerous mob. Is something new to you of course. However for them it is a reality. Thats why debt merchants will cooperate in stories to calm your anger down. It's continual managment on the governments part. See. Even you if in danger will pacify in some way the person your persons your afraid of. You do it every fucking day. Its something very similar to that. Next time your afraid of some danger involving people or a person. Think about your behavior and what you do to make that person happy and go away. Oh you have a wonderful race. My best friend is a? See you don't want them all pissed off at you because you just might have a bad day.

pacify
pac·i·fy

Calm: to calm somebody who is angry or agitated, or soothe violent or angry feelings

The pacification that religion brings on is a no brainer. Love your neighbor. Do good to those that hurt you. Turn the other cheek. It's simply not human nature for people to do those things even fucking Christians. So some asshole who may have been an advanced space ranger came up with. Jesus forgives your sins so don't worry about it. Which is really frustrating to some. Finger pointing starts and well they are absoloved of course. What it really adds up to the bullshit in the beginning of this paragraph wasn't working very well. Because it is fucking human nature. So they went with well try to follow the guideliness anyway.

So you can hate these idiots. What it really boils down to sense. Christianty is nonsense. You can't argue with a person scared into being delusional. All you can do is fuck with them. Like semites that like fucking with a Hebrew.

I like the guy that pushes the grocery carts at the market. I really do. He dosen't give me problems like everyone else around. He really dosen't know what the fuck is going on. All I can is thank God I don't have to explain things to him.

So basically if you give one trouble your going to get a shitload of it in return. Think about it. Lets take authority or imbued authority, for example. Like well your parents. Children like it or not. Answer to their parents. Give that parent enough trouble things are going to start to go really wrong for the child. Of course the smart ass child always thinks he's smarter than the parent. See. The childs brain is not big enough also he just dosen't have the resources. He will pretend he does. He's clearly not as smart as the parent. Although he might always think he is. Children always think they can get away with it. Parents may ignore some things. There is benovolence for the child. However children sometimes mistake that for stupidity. The parent have their role for a reason. The child needs that authority. Because they are not equiped to handle what that parent understands better than the child does. Children don't like that always. Thats just the way it is.

When the people of your government are behaving like stupid children then what? With all the confusing little games and their stupid little ways. When their little playmates all come around with their stupid behavior adding to the problem then what? When they start vandalizing your house then what? A child wants his own way thats clear. Children don't have enough sense thats why they need an adult. For the most part anyway. Or the children will continue down the road into their little disaster if not corrected. It's very easy to understand really. So an adult might say one day you need to be self-sustaining. The child may look up at the adult and say yes but he needs more toys. They like playing with toys. He likes his cartoons and fantasy. Yes, son but your toys and your fantasies aren't going to feed you. You will wind up in a very bad place. The child will never figure the future if someone dosen't call him on his play time. Running with the crowd of children that have the same ways, seems to make it ok. After all the child reasons there is strength in numbers at least on his playground. Its a good place to hide indulge himself with toys and and his fantasy. After all there is no parent to tell him hey your not practicing life for yourself your just playing with your friends. Yes but they have great toys. They aren't yours stop chasing after them. Just some kids thats are a little smarter and more devious than you taking advantage. Your not one of them just their fool.

One might take this personally. Well that you should. You have a very selfish government of people that let the wrong people in back when. Now the people of your government are clearly "owned". The "wrong people" are nothing but common swindelers. The people in your government likes to play games with the people in other governments that also let the wrong people in to prey on their people. I would say its to late now. Other than smacking the shit out of the "wrong people". So hey! theres no "authority". No one to call. Leaves you in dispair dosen't it. The earth after all is an inert entity that just spins till your dizzy and does nothing. It grows fucking food for you but so what. Whats food to Viperman? He's faster than a loco-motive. In fact he is a loco-motive. By now he's even a seismic wonder. Try looking around you there is more than you think. Don't make it less than you know.

Not teaching children how to be self-sustaining in their schools only the basics of running the empire of the monetary system set up by the cash swindlers. With fixed prices and no bargaining. Take what we give we will measure out what you get. How can you get ahead with no bargaining.

Artimus 7:11 The measure you be measuring by is measured back to you.

Another words someone has their finger on the scale. It's not the fact your overweight of course. It's just that they are bloated.

ArtimusMaxtor says

Not teaching children how to be self-sustaining in their schools only the basics of running the empire of the monetary system set up by the cash swindlers. With fixed prices and no bargaining. Take what we give we will measure out what you get. How can you get ahead with no bargaining.

Artimus 7:11 The measure you be measuring by is measured back to you.

Another words someone has their finger on the scale. It's not the fact your overweight of course. It's just that they are bloated.

Where's Google translate when you need it?

xenogear3 says

Also if someone creates some food out of thin air and doesn't pay tax, IRS and FDA will come after him.

Half the country doesn't technically pay taxes right now. Plus with all of Jesus donations, he would probably get a rebate anyway.

I also thought Ecclesiates was great, and that they just tacked on some blub about obeying God at the end of it, because otherwise it is rather anti-religious.

Jesus was anti-religion. That's one of the most interesting things I discovered by reading the bible.

Very true Goran. I discovered that Jesus is also anti-matter.

ArtimusMaxtor says

Very true Goran. I discovered that Jesus is also anti-matter.

Only after his earthly death.

Mick Russom says

Goran_K says

How do you win

You don't. You either take risks, ranging from calculated to outright foolish, or you are insanely lucky. If you took ANY one-percenter and stripped them of all their wealth and their contacts, they COULD NOT rebuild themselves. Take any one-percenter, take all their assets and force them to change their name and 90-95% of them wouldnt be able to earn it back.

Now that would be a really interesting experiment if we could do it.

Goran_K says

Jesus was anti-religion. That's one of the most interesting things I discovered by reading the bible.

Jesus was against debt and loans as well.

also thought Ecclesiates was great, and that they just tacked on some blub about obeying God at the end of it, because otherwise it is rather anti-religious.

Ecclesiastes is great I agree. But I never heard that anyone "tacked on" anything to it. How could that even be proven?

wthrfrk80 says

Ecclesiastes is great I agree. But I never heard that anyone "tacked on" anything to it. How could that even be proven?

The last paragraph just doesn't fit wtih the rest of the thing. After going on about the meaninglessness of everything, suddenly just at the end he says you should fear God and keep his commandments. Huh? Sounds like someone needed to come up with a moral to justify including it in the bible.

Sounds like someone needed to come up with a moral to justify including it in the bible.

Anything is possible. Is the Jewish version of Ecclesiastes different than the Christian version?

Maybe the writer just meant something similar to Jesus' teaching: "what good is it if a man gains the whole world but forfeits his soul?"