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Bigot BAP33 says liberal progressive leftist scum hate facts, rules, normalcy


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2013 Jan 25, 9:43am   11,514 views  41 comments

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Bap33 says

liberal progressive leftist scum hate facts, rules, normalcy, and laws. That's just how they roll.

Filthy obstructionist bastard!

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2   Thedaytoday   2013 Jan 25, 12:35pm  

thomaswong.1986 your fool. Get lost.

3   Thedaytoday   2013 Jan 25, 12:35pm  

lostand confused says

Facts are stubborn things.

For ThomasWONG!

4   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 12:55pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

swiss bank" account is to mean some overseas accounts..unknown to the IRS.. but
infact branches

Swiss bank account means swiss bank accounts. Nothing else, nothing more-pretty ironic, considering you are the one accusing others of lacking facts. thomaswong.1986 says

just do a search on UBS branch offices in the US..


http://apps1.ubs.com/locationfinder/searchForm.do?GeoEntityId=3&GeoEntityType=3


Romney didnt prepare his IRS tax return .. a big four Accounting Firm Price
Waterhouse Coopers did.. so they missed an immaterial amount.. it happens to
everyone.

UBS was forced to turn over large amount of American accounts to the USA.

Now many banks won't take US clients, and I can't stand US policy to foreign resident nationals. I think we are extremely thuggish and act like drunken goons, with no repsect for other countries and our own citizens that reside outside. But that is me and Romney couldn't present a good case-that is his fault. Oh I guess I should try that with the IRS next time. As for him not having responsibility-Sarbanes-Oxley.

5   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 12:57pm  

Thedaytoday says

thomaswong.1986 your fool. Get lost.

perhaps some of your British friends do their personal banking with Overseas American Banks.. like Bank of America with its UK branch.. Is this someone hiding money in "overseas" banks or is it still reported the government revenue house ?

UNITED KINGDOM

London
2 King Edward Street
London, EC1A 1HQ

5 Canada Square
London E14 5AQ

20 Farringdon Road
London, EC1

Seal House
1 Swan Lane
London, EC4

88 Wood Street
London, EC2

Warwick Court
London, EC4

Bromley
26 Elmfield Road
Bromley, BR1 1WA

Camberley
Yorktown Business Park
BStanhope Road
Camberley, GU153BW

Croydon
41 Cherry Orchard Road
Croydon, CR9 6BY

Chester
Bank of America
Chester Business Park
Chester, CH4 9FB

6   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:01pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

perhaps some of your British friends do their personal banking with Overseas
American Banks.. like Bank of America with its UK branch.. Is this someone
hiding money in "overseas" banks or is it still reported the government revenue
house ?

You are twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to defend something that Romney acknowledged. Here ya go again.

lostand confused says

His own campaign said he did. Here ya go,
"Mitt Romney's campaign is
amending the financial disclosure form he filed in 2011 to acknowledge that a
Romney trust earned interest income from a Swiss bank account, a detail that had
been missing from the report. "


http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/romney-failed-disclose-swiss-bank-account-income/story?id=15447680


Facts are stubborn things.

7   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:03pm  

lostand confused says

UBS was forced to turn over large amount of American accounts to the USA.

again.. your talking about illegal activity. People who fly out to Switzerland..

In fact many ameicans everyday use UBS (USA) to do their personal and corporate accounts. All legit all know...to the Govt and IRS.

You like the Dems are again twisting facts for political purposes...

8   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:07pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

again.. your talking about illegal activity. People who fly out to
Switzerland..


In fact many ameicans everyday use UBS (USA) to do their personal and
corporate accounts. All legit all know...to the Govt and IRS.


You like the Dems are again twisting facts for political purposes...

Not really. Not all of them have to be illegal-probably a majority. But not all. But it was you who stated it was not so and Romney's own campaign disagrees with you. But you want to blame the dems for your stuborness??

9   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:10pm  

lostand confused says

You are twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to defend something that Romney acknowledged. Here ya go again.

there is nothing to defend but only describe to you the real world as it exists.

so .. UBS (USA) issued Form 1099-INT that was missed by PWC wth late interest earned on a closed bank account.. Had there been some trickery on the part of Romney.. PWC would have reported it to the IRS.. Amendments are common. Its not a big thing..

10   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:14pm  

He did have a Swiss bank account did he not? That is a fact -is it not??

11   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:15pm  

lostand confused says

Not really. Not all of them have to be illegal-probably a majority. But not all. But it was you who stated it was not so and Romney's own campaign disagrees with you. But you want to blame the dems for your stuborness??

There is no overseas, secret, bank accounts.. do you get that ? Staffed by Americans l and regulated by US Goverment .. Any different with any other foreign bank with US branches or US with European/Asian Branches.

The only thing there is .. is a stigma and lies of having A SWISS BANK ACCOUNT..

Truth only shows for many who have a Business Degree that Dems are really stupid ..
and certainly all of this is no more than Chicago Style Politics.

12   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:18pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

There is no overseas, secret, bank accounts.. do you get that ? Staffed by
Americans l and regulated by US Goverment .. Any different with any other
foreign bank with US branches or US with European/Asian Branches.


The only thing there is .. is a stigma and lies of having A SWISS BANK
ACCOUNT..


Truth only shows for many who have a Business Degree that Dems are really
stupid ..
and certainly all of this is no more than Chicago Style
Politics.

And you wonder why people laugh at the right. You latch on to some inane concept and then stick to it, no matter how many facts are shown. Belief always trumps facts for your kind. Here is Politifact, where even Romney and his blind trust guy acknowledge they had millions in a Swiss Bank trust.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jul/16/barack-obama/mitt-romney-had-millions-swiss-bank-account-barack/

13   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:19pm  

lostand confused says

He did have a Swiss bank account did he not? That is a fact -is it not??

You dont even know what a Swiss Bank Account means ?

I can walk to a local Swiss, Chinese, Japanese, and British bank in the Bay Area.. open an account and have a Check, Visa Card issued to me.. as a US citizen.. and yet under all the US Fed banking and IRS regulations.

So what ?

Did Romney fly out to Switzerland and open a Swiss Bank Account with Fictious name to avoid US IRS taxes.. There is no such proof he did.. and why would he ?

Again just Chicago style politics.. you are bull shiting lies everyday... for your Glorious Leader

14   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:23pm  

lostand confused says

And you wonder why people laugh at the right.

how many people have a 4 year business degree ? this is common knowledge those who do..

no wonder 10 million of former 2008 obama voters didnt vote in 2012.

15   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:29pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



He did have a Swiss bank account did he not? That is a fact -is it not??


You dont even know what a Swiss Bank Account means ?


I can walk to a local Swiss, Chinese, Japanese, and British bank in the Bay Area.. open an account and have a Check, Visa Card issued to me.. as a US citizen.. and yet under all the US Fed banking and IRS regulations.


So what ?


Did Romney fly out to Switzerland and open a Swiss Bank Account with Fictious name to avoid US IRS taxes.. There is no such proof he did.. and why would he ?


Again just Chicago style politics..

Who said anything about ficitious names? The ad from the dem side said he had millions in a Swiss Bank account, nothing more, nothing less - he did. Sheesh.

You can go to any foreign bank based in the US and open a US account right away-that will be a US account. Then they have different accounts for different countries that you can only open based on their rules of eligibility and US restrictions. It ain't that easy-many foreign banks are refusing US accounts, because of the draconian rules.

16   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:30pm  

lostand confused says

blind trust guy acknowledge they had millions in a Swiss Bank trust.

a trust is a legal entity KNOWN to the IRS.. it doesnt matter if its Swiss or US bank earning interest or other investments .. Do you understand this.. else what ?

17   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:30pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



And you wonder why people laugh at the right.


how many people have a 4 year business degree ? this is common knowledge those who do..


no wonder 10 million of former 2008 obama voters didnt vote in 2012.

No it explains why Obama won despite the lousy economy and no new message. The right has become the fringe right and make no sense to most sane rational people.

18   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:31pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



blind trust guy acknowledge they had millions in a Swiss Bank trust.


a trust is a legal entity KNOWN to the IRS.. it doesnt matter if its Swiss or what ever bank. or investments .. Do you understand this.. else what ?

It is a SWISS BANK account. Even Romney acknowledged it. Do you understand what that means????????

19   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:33pm  

lostand confused says

No it explains why Obama won despite the lousy economy and no new message. The right has become the fringe right and make no sense to most sane rational people.

ignorance is a poor excuse.. and Romney was right.

20   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:34pm  

You claim that the dems make up facts about the Swiss accounts. No they did not-they merely pointed out a fact. End of matter-but you claim that is a sign dems don't know what facts are and go on and on about 4 year business degrees and how anyone who doesn't agree with you must be stupid-sigh.. You wonder why the repubs are so down ??

21   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:35pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



No it explains why Obama won despite the lousy economy and no new message. The right has become the fringe right and make no sense to most sane rational people.


ignorance is a poor excuse.. and Romney was right.

Yup Romeny was right about him having Swiss bank accounts-he did. Obama pointed that out.

22   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:39pm  

lostand confused says

It is a SWISS BANK account. Even Romney acknowledged it. Do you understand what that means????????

Your trying to attach a stigma to a term that no longer means anything.. only idiotic journalists and obama cronies are hyping the BIG BAD ILLEGAL SECRET SWISS BANK ACCOUNT..

yes even the IRS know about it.. and they say SO WHAT ?

Your going to go overboard because of Romneys final interest earned $1700 on a closed account ..

again... Any US citizen can walk tomorrow into a Swiss Bank Branch and open a checking account, credit card, and other services.. its been like this for fucking decades..

This is not illegal... heck.. they may be paying higher interest on account balances than US banks.

23   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:44pm  

lostand confused says

End of matter-but you claim that is a sign dems don't know what facts are and go on and on about 4 year business degrees and how anyone who doesn't agree with you must be stupid-sigh..

dont stop there.. go for the dems stupid...

Romney signed the SEC documents while on leave.

Outsourced US Jobs...

... Its all bullshit but the same shit brains in the DNC..

24   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:44pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

Any US citizen can walk tomorrow into a Swiss Bank Branch and open a checking
account, credit card, and other services.. its been like this for fucking
decades..


This is not illegal... heck.. they may be paying higher interest on account
balances than US banks

You know when people belittle others constantly, instead of giving facts-it shows they don't have a leg to stand on. Really-do you even have a clue of what you are talking about.

25   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:52pm  

lostand confused says

Yup Romeny was right about him having Swiss bank accounts-he did. Obama pointed that out.

And Romney pointed out to Obama pension investing in Chinese companies..

So what ! Any US citizen can have both !

26   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 1:58pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

And Romney pointed out to Obama pension investing in Chinese companies..


So what ! Any US citizen can have both !

You don't see many on the left claiming that Romney lied or that he is playing dirty politics using that issue do you? I have yet to come across one that denies it.

27   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 1:59pm  

lostand confused says

Really-do you even have a clue of what you are talking about.

yes.. i went as far to provide the location of Swiss US Branch ...

why the fuck are they there ? are they hidden in some dark alley only the rich know about ?

or common knowledge... all these foreign banks working in US borders including the SWISS are all well known to the IRS and Bank regulators...

if your so concerned about the RICH .. go ask the Kennedy's about their BILLIONS...

28   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 2:00pm  

lostand confused says

You don't see many on the left claiming that Romney lied or that he is playing dirty politics using that issue do you? I have yet to come across one that denies it.

you did .. see above !

29   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 2:02pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



Really-do you even have a clue of what you are talking about.


yes.. i went as far to provide the location of Swiss US Branch ...


why the fuck are they there ? are they hidden in some dark alley only the rich know about ?


or common knowledge... all these foreign banks working in US borders including the SWISS are all well known to the IRS and Bank regulators...


if your so concerned about the RICH .. go ask the Kennedy's about their BILLIONS...

So do you have a foreign bank account-especially after 2010? I do, as I worked abroad for awhile. Tell me again-you were saying?

This is the problem when your brain is fogged by extreme partisanship. You have to protect anything and everything on your side and then your side has to come up with outrageous arguments to protect that initial silliness and you end up looking like the modern right wing .

Now I am no fan of Obama, but the right is just so batsh*t crazy, that there is really no choice.

30   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 2:05pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



You don't see many on the left claiming that Romney lied or that he is playing dirty politics using that issue do you? I have yet to come across one that denies it.


you did .. see above !

Nope-not on the China pension issue. Can you read before claiming as facts-might make you more believeable-or accept that you made a mistake-we all do.

31   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 2:30pm  

lostand confused says

So do you have a foreign bank account-especially after 2010? I do, as I worked abroad for awhile. Tell me again-you were saying?

Personally... no..

Professionally.. yes... I am a co-signature (1 of 5) authority for 10 corporate overseas banks where my company does business. We in the US fund these accounts each month to pay local employees salaries/benefits, vendors, landlords, and taxing authorities.

32   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 2:41pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



So do you have a foreign bank account-especially after 2010? I do, as I worked abroad for awhile. Tell me again-you were saying?


Personally... no..


Professionally.. yes... I am a co-signature (1 of 5) authority for 10 corporate overseas banks where my company does business. We in the US fund these accounts each month to pay local employees salaries/benefits, vendors, landlords, and taxing authorities.

Odd-hard to believe. Do you just sign of for the account or are actually involved in the whole process. You do realize that they are two different animals don't you? I work mostly in the finance field in IT though-most of my work is with multinational corporations. Worked on multiple projects with branches/employees in multiple countries and dealing with taxes, employees, time and expense and foreign exchange transactions. The IT side of it-but you need the financial knowledge to do that. They are two different animals.

Go to a bank here and ask them what is the process of opening a foreign bank accout . Go ahead. Now opening an account in the US of a foreign bank is not a foriegn account as you claim of Romney -that is a US account. To open any other country foreign account varies by country-some it is very easy, others it is like negotiating a minefield.

33   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 2:44pm  

lostand confused says

This is the problem when your brain is fogged by extreme partisanship. You have to protect anything and everything on your side and then your side has to come up with outrageous arguments to protect that initial silliness and you end up looking like the modern right wing .

has nothing to do with partisanship (except on the left)...

it has everything to do with understanding how modern global banking systems work.

it also has everything to do that our current crop of crony democrats and journalists who play the public as idiots who have no idea idea how business in the US or globally works. That includes so called Swiss Bank Accounts... and so called foreign investments.

Obama 2008: "If you don't have any fresh ideas, you use stale tactics to scare the voters"

http://www.youtube.com/embed/fTynx1hnfig&feature=player_embedded

34   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 2:47pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

has nothing to do with partisanship (except on the left)...

You are funny .

35   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 2:58pm  

lostand confused says

Go to a bank here and ask them what is the process of opening a foreign bank accout . Go ahead. Now opening an account in the US of a foreign bank is not a foriegn account as you claimk of Romney -that is a US account.

do you think a journalist knows anything about this.. ever had the capacity to understand this.. had they, they would have been Accounting or Finance majors in college and maybe become CPAs like me. No they dont.. nothing sexy about describing the bureaucracy of a boring banking system many millions business use every day.

How sexy of a story is that... and how is that going to progress the so called left wing causes..

36   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 3:01pm  

lostand confused says

The IT side of it-but you need the financial knowledge to do that. They are two different animals.

talk to your company's corporate controller and treasurer..
they are a wealth of information...

37   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 3:02pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



The IT side of it-but you need the financial knowledge to do that. They are two different animals.


talk to your company's corporate controller and treasurer..
they are a wealth of information...

Did so, plenty of times. You won't see me give out false info like you claiming it as fact. If I am mistaken , I learn and move on..

38   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 3:04pm  

lostand confused says

You won't see me give out false info like you claiming it as fact.

i give you the facts.. verify by talking to a controller, treasure vp finance...verify my claims and you will see.

39   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 3:05pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



You won't see me give out false info like you claiming it as fact.


i give you the facts.. verify by talking to a controller, treasure vp finance...verify my claims and you will see.

You give me baloney. even Romney agrees with me.

40   lostand confused   2013 Jan 25, 3:11pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

lostand confused says



Go to a bank here and ask them what is the process of opening a foreign bank accout . Go ahead. Now opening an account in the US of a foreign bank is not a foriegn account as you claimk of Romney -that is a US account.


do you think a journalist knows anything about this.. ever had the capacity to understand this.. had they, they would have been Accounting or Finance majors in college and maybe become CPAs like me. No they dont.. nothing sexy about describing the bureaucracy of a boring banking system many millions business use every day.


How sexy of a story is that... and how is that going to progress the so called left wing causes..

Huh? You are the one claiming otherwise. You are the one arguing otherwise and claim you are a CPA??

41   thomaswong.1986   2013 Jan 25, 3:12pm  

lostand confused says

Huh? You are the one claiming otherwise. You are the one arguing otherwise and claim you are a CPA??

Journalist (Obama Cronies) have no ethics.. they are a tool of the left.

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