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Terrified of Biker Gang, Is Throwing a Water Bottle at Them Sensible?
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2013 Oct 9, 3:33am 8,477 views 56 comments
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Homeboy
2013 Oct 10, 9:12am
If streets were made for motorcycles, they would be 1/4 the width.
Streets are made for cars.
In all accidents between cars and motorcycles, the motorcycle is to be considered "at fault" by default, as they are on streets not designed for them.
Case Closed.
I'm not with him.
leo707
2013 Oct 10, 9:31am
Motorcycles aren't that dangerous. If I drive a motorcycle with nobody on the road, it is quite safe. It is other vehicles that make it dangerous.
That's precisely what I said. Again, you are assuming arguments that I did not make.
I would still say even alone on the road motorcycles are pretty dangerous -- particularly with new riders.
If I am remembering correctly somewhere over 1/3, but under 1/2 of motorcycle accidents do not involve another vehicle. I don't have time now to look up the data, but here is a link to the -- might be allowing searches during the shutdown -- .gov site.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/
That said I think that the statistics are pretty skewed by the inexperienced, idiots, and stuntz riders (same as idiots?). One can ride for decades, or a lifetime, and never get into an accident.
freak80
2013 Oct 10, 9:33am
I don't even like driving my Honda Civic on deer infested roadways, let alone a motorcycle. Yikes.
leo707
2013 Oct 10, 9:40am
I don't even like driving my Honda Civic on deer infested roadways, let alone a motorcycle. Yikes.
Yeah, that is one disadvantage of a motorcycle, not much cargo room. No where to put all that free venison ;)
leo707
2013 Oct 10, 10:40am
I'd bet the accident rates of 40+ year old experienced motorcyclists is vastly lower.
Yeah, vastly lower, but key word is experienced. These days there are plenty of 40+ people whose midlife crisis vehicle is a motorcycle. They might not do all the stupid stuff that a 20 year-old does on a bike, but they don't have the reflexes to get them out of the inevitable beginner mistakes.
possibly drinking.
Drinking and driving a car is bad enough, but it is a horrible idea on a motorcycle.
Every wanna be tough guy biker with a loud Harley should die. Self centered dipshits.
elliemae
2013 Oct 11, 1:01am
The only other way I can describe it is a car driver is looking out a window at the world, the motorcyclist is outside in the world. We have to run by a whole different set of expectations and outcomes.
The world is moving "slowly" and as I drive in my "cage" I see it as if I were standing on it. Not getting whipped by sand & wind and shit that's in the roadway. I'll take my cage, which provides some protection from the elements as well as it makes it more comfortable to see the world around me.
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Of course not. The SUV driver almost killed an onlooker, and fled the scene. Of course they need to cover their tracks. "Save my baby!" But if you are so terrified, you don't risk an escalation by tossing a water bottle at these folks.
Frequently up thisaway in the Northwest, drivers who witness a hit and run will pursue the criminal until they find out where he lives or call in the accident and alert the police to the location of the criminal.
You are out for a ride with your buddies and club members, a maniac in an SUV runs over and very possibly kills someone and speeds off - what do you do?