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BenghazebolaHusseinCabronObama says
That dead guy in Dallas lied his way into the country. How would stricter measures have stopped him?
Quarantine passengers on all inbound flights from Ebola countries.
He came from Brussels.
ON second thought, you know what? It wasn't even about the guy who had Ebola how, where and when we discovered that he had it.
It was gross incompetence after it was discovered.
The CDC ONLY Sent over someone to decontaminate the poor guys house, and get his family out of harms way. Only after the good folks over FOX news put up a day long stink about lack of competence in the way it was handled.
Fucking Rodger with a pressure washer and all that.
It was a piss poor display and very hazardous, that the Democrats would put so many people in harms way, just to give Fox news the business.
I guess FOX got the last say. Obama does what FOX says not what stupid Libs say. Now who's a good boy?
Yeah that's leadership go from doing dick all, to just being ridiculously over baring and put the Fema camps to use. I already predicted that earlier in the original ebola thread. Libs are so transparent.
What's the big deal about quarantine? This is a deadly disease with which we have little experience. If I were infected, you wouldn't have to force me into quarantine. For the sake of my family, I'd welcome having a place to go that would keep them safer. I just don't see how having the right to die amongst your kin would be any consolation knowing that you made your own kids sick with a deadly disease.
The fact that a healthcare worker got the disease despite her space suit and training would seem to suggest that we aren't as protected as we could be. You just need to get a little infected vomit on you, touch your eyes or nose, and viola! This isn't about freaking out and going over the top. This is about choosing the least risky option until we get better at dealing with Ebola. I have no doubt that we would get there quickly, but the latest sick healthcare worker shows that we aren't there, yet.
If healthcare workers who are trained in dealing with infectious diseases, don the proper gear, go through decontamination chambers after contact... If these people can't keep themselves safe, what would that mean for the rest of us who have no such training or equipment?
The fact that a healthcare worker got the disease despite her space suit and training would seem to suggest that we aren't as protected as we could be.
As we're being led to believe.
The chances of Ebola coming here to the states is next to slim" We're smart, we're educated, we said so! So therefore it is an undisputed fact!"
Except that's not what is being said. What the knowledgeable folks are saying over and over is that the chance of it being an EPIDEMIC in the US is very slim. And they are correct.
One foreigner dying in the US does NOT make an epidemic no matter what some of the dimmer people on pat.net want you to believe.
They said the same damn thing about AIDS, no one thought it would spread. But it did, and now it's everywhere.
We are supposed to work to eradicate this disease now, not wait till it's everywhere and costs are astronomical.
What's the big deal about quarantine?
That's going to be the ONLY way to contain it if a few cases pop up. It's the way it has been contained in all the villages in Africa in the past.
The difference is, the US is not Africa, and we don't live in small rural villages. How many groups of people/neighborhoods/sections of towns will be willing to lock down for 21 days and play wait and see?
Well if it spreads fast-now there is a possible case in Mass.- no debate needed. Most people will be dead.
Hmm how come all these things come from Africa-HIV came from there too???
They said the same damn thing about AIDS, no one thought it would spread.
Who said that? Your idol?
BenghazebolaHusseinCabronObama says
Hey Captain - does that one to many thing apply to HIV also?
No it doesn't. That's different, because it was Reagan, so stop mentioning that.
Please be aware that "1 person dying is one to many" also does not apply in the following cases:
- 9/11
- Katrina
- The lives of young men and women thrown away on wars which did nothing
And seat belts;
http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/seatbelts/facts.html
Goddamn Gub'mint telling ME to buckle up- I'll show 'em!
We are supposed to work to eradicate this disease now, not wait till it's everywhere and costs are astronomical.
Who says we're not?
I don't even think they need to do that. Travel arrangements are all computerized. They can tell who bought a ticket and from where. They can tell the country of citizenship.... as well as the country of origin. It's not like you can get on a plane without proper ID anywhere in the western world. It took us about a minute to figure out where the first Ebola patient connected from in order to get to Dallas. I don't think it all must boil down to some customs officer reading through all the departure/arrival stamps.
Actually it does. There isn't some huge central database of flight records across the world. . What you are talking about is called passenger name records. These are records in huge databases that keep the itinerary of a single trip. These databases are scattered throughout the major booking agencies and airlines. There is no central database for this other than records sent to DHS. If someone books with say sabre or galileo then there is a record at the booking agency (the master record) and at each airline. If someone books directly with the airline then only the airline has the PNR. Plus it only covers one itinerary or trip. If someone books two flights then there is no common record between them. There is an agreement in place between the EU and the US to exchange PNR records but no one else exchanges with the US or the EU. PNR records are sent to DHS 15 minutes before a flight takes off. Any flight originates outside of the EU or US (like all flights from west africa) would not be known to DHS or any other US authority. It took about a minute to look up the inbound flight from Brussels. The originating flight was only known because Duncan told the authorities about it.
The country of citizenship wouldn't matter other than actual Liberian, Guinea, and Sierra Leone citizens, very few of whom are travelling to the US. Aid workers, UN and NGO officials, reporters, etc. are a lot more likely to be a problem. Obviously they won't be on a west african passport. Since you couldn't tell the originating flight you would have to look for stamps on every single page, in every single passport at every single international airport. Including all the podunk ones. That's assuming the passports were ever even stamped and the stamp is legible. That's sometimes pretty lax in some third world countries. I've got a few totally illegible stamps in my passport. Not the vaguest clue what country they were from.
They said the same damn thing about AIDS, no one thought it would spread. But it did, and now it's everywhere.
I've got to ask. Do you actually live on the planet earth or is there an IP provider on Mars? Hiv/Aids was very widespread before it was even identified. People were dying in substantial numbers of odd diseases and no one know why. It took years after that to actually identify it. I was working as a stagehand in NY in the 70's and early 80's. I got to see it a lot more than I wanted, including in an ex girlfriend. Very scary stuff in the days before the antiretroviral drugs were developed.
Translated: "You earned yours, but I'm too fuckin lazy and/or stupid to earn mine so i want a chuck of yours given to me"..
We are now a nation of home-schooled anti-vaxxer "I got mine fuck you!" fundamentalists.
This thread should serve as a remind how intentionally petty Liberals can be.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/ebola-duncan-death-cremation/16930631/
So much for "we got it under control" mantra spread by the politicians who are afraid to admit that they have nothing under control at all.