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So many irrelevant comments. Can someone comment on the video, Its validity, historical accuracy etc.?

I'm not going to watch the video, but in being profoundly anti-democratic Hitler was elementally evil.

Democracy is a pretty low bar, if you can't get 50% of the electorate strongly on your side, you're a right prick to start with.

German social progress of the Weimar era was paralyzed by their divide between the Left and Right there.

Much needed to be reformed, but the conservatives were having none of it.

Hitlerism provided a way for the right to largely preserve itself against the communists and socialists who wanted more reform in Germany's economy and social order.

Germans -- left, right, center -- generally hated the Versailles "Diktat", but failed to appreciate that the alternative to that was the West -- mainly France -- coming into Germany in the 1920s and physically carting off the wealth they demanded in recompense for the destruction of so much of NE France, 1914-1918.

Like elections, wars have consequences. And WW I was no ordinary war!

Upon accession of power in 1933, the Nazis started creating their secret police state to keep them in power permanently. Evil, ja.

After rearming enough, it was time for war again in 1939. 1940 & 41 went reasonably well for the Nazis, but if they had come into the Soviet Union as liberators and not liquidators , '42 & '43 might have been a different story for them.

Hitler was no great military genius and his fuckups directing the Russian summer 1942 campaign sealed the Nazi state's fate, after the army's remaining offensive force was spattered into the foothills of the Caucasus (1st Panzer Army), and ground down in Stalingrad (6th Army which had been reinforced with the 2nd Panzer Army, and part of the 4th Panzer Army).

Halder, v Weichs, and Paulus were telling Hitler that the loooong Don flank wasn't strong enough, but Hitler thought he knew better.

After 1939, the Nazis intended to expunge the polish nation from the map, just like Iran hard-liners fantasize about taking out Israel.

Their plans went beyond fantasy, though.

Of course, picking on immigrants and other minorities (Jews in Germany for the Nazi case) is a typically fascist thing to do, to misdirect the public. #3 on this list:

http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm

Fascism -- centralized force over wide consensus -- is inherently evil. It all comes down to failing to treat with others as you would want to be treated.

This post from Liberals purportedly our nations brightest minds, is why Trump's reputation is soaring and Hillary's clothes are starting to get an orange jumpsuit hue to them.

The whole Versailles thing was special pleading.

Germany was laboring under terms similar to those which it imposed on France after the war of 1870, and would have been eased off the hook completely by 1950 regardless. Not that it mattered: Hjalmar Schacht gamed the currency and debt infrastructure so hard in the 1930s that Germany was well on its way to being the powerhouse of Europe even without another war.

If Hitler had not gone to war, Germany would have owned Europe by 1945 through peaceful means.

CaptainShuddup says

This post from Liberals purportedly our nations brightest minds, is why Trump's reputation is soaring and Hillary's clothes are starting to get an orange jumpsuit hue to them.

it is easy to forget - as so many modern historians do - that all cultural and economic history since 1918 has led us to this time: the era of Trump.

Dan8267 says

FortWayne says

Now I get it Dan. You don't hate America, you just hate everyone who lives in it.

No, you dumb ass. 70% of the people in America are good. It's the 30% who call themselves conservatives like you, CIC, and Strategist who are ruining the country for everyone else with your inbred stupidity, ignorance, malice, and bigotry. You don't represent America, as much as you like to think you do. You are a dying breed of backwards morons whose vile culture is finally dying, and that scares the shit out of you cowards which is why you lash out so much. It's the death rattle of ignorance.

he he he he he!

HydroCabron says

it is easy to forget - as so many modern historians do - that all cultural and economic history since 1918 has led us to this time: the era of Trump.

Sound like a Liberal droid short circuiting does sparks fly out of your ears when you say these things lately?

CaptainShuddup says

Sound like a Liberal droid short circuiting does sparks fly out of your ears when you say these things lately?

And you are spewing TrumpShit like a parsecs-wide shit spraying cheerleader fanboy geezer/geyser of Jehovah's Witness oh-look-I'm-the-only-gay-in-the-village freshly recruited insufferable gullible Amway pyramid-scheme enthusiast douchebag.

Your mouth is a wormhole from another dimension of shit, ducting whiny-victim Trump bullshit in such quantity and velocity as to rip open the spacetime continuum so that a new Big Bang of accreted TrumpShit can occur from the collapse of the previous supermassive accumulation of TrumpShit, fusing into heavier and heaver elements of Trumpon, then Trumpuminum, Trumpranium and the higher Trumptinides as it collapses into a singularity of ignorance and needy proselytizing gullibility and hate.

Yeah but you do have to admit do a better job at being me than you do.

... and that was easier to follow than most Capn' posts.

I say that Conservatives should move to Somalia. Gays and Witches not tolerated, guns plentiful, family and clan values, little taxes, unregulated markets, etc.

thunderlips11 says

I say that Conservatives should move to Somalia. Gays and Witches not tolerated, guns plentiful, family and clan values, little taxes, unregulated markets, etc.

I always thought that Russia and Afghanistan best resemble the conservative utopia. Of course, they'd have to replace Christianity with Islam, but Islam is the religion they agree with more anyway. Jesus was a god-damn socialist who would have opposed the Second Amendment. Jesus never carried a weapon.

thunderlips11 says

I say that Conservatives should move to Somalia. Gays and Witches not tolerated, guns plentiful, family and clan values, little taxes, unregulated markets, etc.

They allow bronze smelting and the use of the wheel.

Any true conservative would stay away from there, and become a hunter-gatherer in Galt's Gulch.

In conclusion: grunt.

Russia isn't a conservative utopia because most Russians (except 1% of Moscow Liberals in the Intn'l Sense of the Term) believe in national health care, gun control, access to sex ed and birth control, and free education.

When the elderly babushka can't water her lawn anymore, no conservative passes and screams "Ma Property Values!" and call code enforcement, who promptly shows up with a $250 fine. Nor does anybody report her for taking in washing and hanging the clothes in the front yard of her cottage. And certainly not for growing tomatoes and turnips in her front yard, either - Russians would consider that nuts, something even Stalin or Beria wouldn't do.

Here's a great example from a Red State, a notice received within 24 hours of a fun family project of building a cardbox box castle wth their kids:
http://www.okcfox.com/story/28726941/family-receives-notice-to-remove-cardboard-castle-from-front-lawn-or-face-fine