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Soon everyone will be unemployed. then what?

By tovarichpeter following x   2017 Jan 12, 10:56am 2,124 views   25 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


https://futurism.com/universal-basic-income-what-if-the-problem-isnt-automation-but-work-itself/

United States are expected to be replaced by smart machines and other forms of automated systems in the next decade or so.

1   Gary Anderson   ignore (0)   2017 Jan 12, 11:04am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

If that happens, capitalism will fail because there won't be customers.

2   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2017 Jan 12, 11:09am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

You guys aren't speculating you're hopping that's really creepy and Trump has come just in time.

We're not at the technology to have fully automated AI everything, but that doesn't stop the Liberals from wanting to create a jobless Socialist utopia.

You will be denied.

Look for AI legislation and Robot regulations. Look out for it fuckers. It's coming.

3   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2017 Jan 12, 11:11am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Tax each manufacturing Robot $1 million a year.
AI may only be used for safety fail safe mechanisms and not to replace human workers, unless the said job is hazardous to humans. Such as Nuclear waste work.

4   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2017 Jan 12, 11:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

I ask myself similarly but then I think plutocrats must be counting on low wage outsource populations to be their new broadened customer base thereby making up for the loss of the comfortable American consumer market.

You know the merchant class has had plenty of time to run varying population behavior simulations at universities and they might have acquired a high statistical confidence interval in the results, so they know whether or not they are better off by stiffing America and using us domestic breeders more for soldiers, cops, administrators, servers, and prison laborers. --none of which requires much of an education.

There's only enough high end, professional STEM etc., jobs for the progeny of elites. (and kept women who hold the threat of divorce with lifetime alimony) Such new knowledge might turn out to be favorable to oligarchs seeking to normalize existing gross inequality.

Did you ever think that there's a disproportionate amount of female doctors and lawyers starting twenty five or so years ago as this Greenspan economic growth stint built on worker insecurity and cheap debt started to take hold? I suspect it derives from freedom that the legal bind of marriage grants to the non-earning spouse. Not many men divorce women for not earning. E.g. once wives get through med school divorce becomes a somewhat less crippling thing to the earner and the newly minted professional is free to join the upper class without the baggage of the castoff who supported them.

Sorry, I realize that is a disappointing turn of events.

5   Gary Anderson   ignore (0)   2017 Jan 12, 11:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says

We're not at the technology to have fully automated AI everything, but that doesn't stop the Liberals from wanting to create a jobless Socialist utopia.

You will be denied.

Since when are business men liberals? Not very many are. Which means they will ruthlessly cut jobs if they can. Labor looses by enough and capitalism will come down. It is already happening. Capacity utilization is at 75 percent.

6   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2017 Jan 12, 11:16am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Uh Huh!

Keep dreaming get me my cheap Green car you lying sack of shit. All you idiots told me that Obama was creating affordable Green energy and green cars.
It's more expensive and chocked full of red tape and regulation than ever before. One can't even simply erect solar panels or a wind turbine in their yard, like they could BEFORE Obama. Now you must pay your Electric company to tie your alternative electricity into their grid then buy it back from them.

7   Tenpoundbass   ignore (10)   2017 Jan 12, 11:26am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Exploding Hover boards,
Exploding premium phones(We've hit a wall)
XRockets that explode 7 out of 10 times on the launch pad(But they have a waiting list to fly to Mars)
Self Crashing Cars
Self checkout lines that more often than not you have to take everything off the belt and start over again, and always a human has to enter a confirmation code at the end.
Secure networks that has been hacked by every novice in the world.

You guys really have an inflated sense of our capabilities.

8   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2017 Jan 12, 11:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Gary Anderson says

Labor looses by enough and capitalism will come down.

I'm not so sure that will work out like it should because of globalization, see my earlier comment above. [sigh]

9   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2017 Jan 12, 11:28am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Somebody has to build and maintain the robots, and those people will be Americans.

10   Rin   ignore (4)   2017 Jan 12, 11:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Rin says

Humans need not apply ...

11   curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Jan 12, 11:47am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

tovarichpeter says

Soon every will be unemployed. then what?
United States are expected to be replaced by smart machines and other forms of automated systems in the next decade or so.

An actual robot might make fewer errors than the current tovbot.

12   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (32)   2017 Jan 12, 12:08pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Flip condos forever. Real estate never goes down.

13   rootvg   ignore (0)   2017 Jan 12, 12:42pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says

You guys aren't speculating you're hopping that's really creepy and Trump has come just in time.

We're not at the technology to have fully automated AI everything, but that doesn't stop the Liberals from wanting to create a jobless Socialist utopia.

You will be denied.

Look for AI legislation and Robot regulations. Look out for it fuckers. It's coming.

The only place I hear this stuff is in California. Nowhere else.

14   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Jan 12, 1:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Gary Anderson says

If that happens, capitalism will fail because there won't be customers.

But I thought zero taxes for the rich & voodoo economics would save america.

15   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Jan 12, 1:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

rootvg says

The only place I hear this stuff is in California. Nowhere else.

The nuttiest people are in California.

16   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2017 Jan 12, 1:40pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

curious2 says

An actual robot might make fewer errors than the current tovbot.

Every agrees.
rootvg says

The only place I hear this stuff is in California. Nowhere else.

The death knell of the California Ideology. Apparently self-healing nodes constantly improving each other includes /pol, Jeff Rense, Freelee the Bananagirl, and raw story.

Nevermind the nodes are connected to a limited number of network infrastructure centers each with their direct pipeline to NSA eavesdropping facilities.

17   Strategist   ignore (1)   2017 Jan 12, 1:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

tovarichpeter says

Soon every will be unemployed. then what?

Each one of us will get a free robot who will go to work for us. We can stay home collecting the pay checks and having sex all day long.

18   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Jan 12, 3:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Flip condos forever. Real estate never goes down.

That's so 2008. You're so 2000-late.

Today it's far more efficient to flip futures for condos that will never be built. It works like this, you take out a interest-only ARM to buy rights to a condo that hasn't been built. You flip it in six months for a $100k profit. That person takes out a larger ARM to pay for the condo and flips it for another $100k profit in six months. The next guy takes out a negative amortizing mortgage and then flips the condo for $150k more than he paid for it, netting $125k after paying for the mortgage. This continues indefinitely as the price of the condo and the mortgages just get higher and higher. Everyone wins as no one is left holding the bag.

Best of all, the condo never even needs to be built. The future itself is the asset. This can all be done digital and automated. Every citizen can be automatically signed up for the program. Even dead people can make money with this. Smart people will reinvest their profits in multiple lines of virtual condo futures. We can locate the condos on the moon if we ever run out of land as we never have to build them. Plus, not actually building the condos means no property taxes and no maintenance costs, so your profits just keep building up. This is the future of investing.

To get started, send a check made out to Dan8267, P.O. Box 170, Boca Raton, FL. Or send cash. I'm not picky.

Note that this is not a pyramid scam. There is no exponential increase in buyers. It's an expandable set of linear progressions that can go on indefinitely.

19   rootvg   ignore (0)   2017 Jan 12, 3:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Strategist says

rootvg says

The only place I hear this stuff is in California. Nowhere else.

The nuttiest people are in California.

Most of my work these days is outside California and I'm being told that will not change. I'm a road warrior now.

20   Entitlemented   ignore (0)   2017 Jan 12, 3:25pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

jazz music says

Did you ever think that there's a disproportionate amount of female doctors and lawyers starting twenty five or so years ago as this Greenspan economic growth stint built on worker insecurity and cheap debt started to take hold?

It was the rise of lawyers and accountants, humanities and other Malinvesting jobs, propelled by the 60s hippies that made this NAFTAish outsourced mess. FYI, it was hippy lawyers and activists that sheparded the USA to massive outsourcing, and a scarcity of Manufacturing jobs (Bill, Hillary, and Obama).

Look at the smug look on the hippies face as he swears that NAFTA will help US jobs:

21   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Jan 12, 4:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Entitlemented says

FYI, it was hippy lawyers and activists that sheparded the USA to massive outsourcing, and a scarcity of Manufacturing jobs (Bill, Hillary, and Obama).

For my info, how much outsourced manufactured Communist China crap have you bought?
Computer ,cell phone, bet there is more.
Let's make a list of all Republicans that voted on any bill that allowed any benefit to outsourcing.

22   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Jan 12, 4:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Republicans sucking the govt. teat don't need jobs.

23   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2017 Jan 13, 6:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Entitlemented says

propelled by the 60s hippies

It sounds like you are saying young people who grew up so advantaged that they took time to protest Viet Nam "Police Action"enjoy casual sex, intoxicants, music gatherings and still graduate colleges.

I dissected your implications to understand what you might be saying was particularly bad about hippies. Hippie influence is still strong in our times I think because not long after hippies our prosperity and freedoms were successfully taken away as billions of dollars have been invested to keep us all divided against each other and voting to benefit the ownership class and enforcement was transformed into a vertically integrated army privileged to rob and kill over a war on drugs which turns out to be domestically a round up of the angry unemployable, the hopeless and the sick from our population that has been deliberately made insecure, by Greenspan's federal design, with respect to livelihood and even subsistence.

24   MMR   ignore (0)   2017 Jan 13, 8:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3811314/Vegan-vlogger-Freelee-Banana-Girl-goes-public-break-former-partner.html#commentsT L Lipsovich says

Freelee the Bananagirl

Absolutely pathetic. Makes vegans look bad, for one, but she's just too damn skinny and her workout videos are amongst the worst I encountered on YouTube.

25   Gary Anderson   ignore (0)   2017 Jan 14, 12:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Tenpoundbass says

Self Crashing Cars

I hate those. I have always opposed self driving cars.





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