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curious2 says

terror cell in Barking

Barking? Lol, as in "barking mad"?

rando says

curious2 says

terror cell in Barking

Barking? Lol, as in "barking mad"?

Churchill called Islam "madness", so it's a fitting place name.

It's true, CNN deliberately staged this:

www.youtube.com/embed/k6HWc8XzUjM

And here is the scene that was shown to the public as if it were real:

CNN is not trustworthy.

One of the three jihadists who murdered revellers in central London on Saturday had been reported to the anti-terror police on at least two occasions, it has been claimed.

A former friend of the terrorist, who was shot dead by police along with two accomplices, claimed he had been radicalised while watching YouTube videos and said he contacted the authorities ­after becoming concerned over his friend’s extremist views.

A neighbour also claimed she had contacted police in Barking, east London, after the suspect tried to convert her children to Islam and radicalise them. The man is not being named at the request of the police.

The former friend claimed he contacted police after comments the man made about other previous attacks. But he said the authorities had failed to act and take action despite evidence of increasingly extremist views.

The friend told the BBC’s Asian Network that the terrorist had been radicalised watching videos of the infamous American hate preacher Ahmad Musa Jibril.

He said: “We spoke about a particular attack that happened and like most radicals he had a justification for anything and everything and that day I 
realised I needed to contact the authorities.”

He added: “He used to listen to a lot of Musa Jibril. I have heard some of this stuff and its very radical. I am surprised this stuff is still on YouTube and is easily accessible. I phoned the anti-terror hotline. I spoke to the gentleman. I told him about our conversation and why I think he was radicalised.”

However, he said he was not arrested and was allowed to keep his passport. “I did my bit, I know a lot of other people did their bit, but the authorities did not do their bit,” the friend said.

Erica Gasparri, an Italian mother of three who lived close to him, claimed she had reported him to Barking police two years ago, after he began “brainwashing” her children at a local park. She said she had confronted him after her two children came home and said: “Mummy I want to become a Muslim.”

She said the police had told her the information had been passed to Scotland Yard but she had heard nothing more.

Ms Gasparri said: “He was trying to radicalise the children, he would go down to the park and talk to them about Islam. He also came to the houses and gave the kids money and sweets during Ramadan.”

Anti-terror police raided the block of flats on King’s Road in Barking, where the man was believed to live with his wife and two children. The couple were said to have had an arranged marriage.

The attacker's parents were reported to be asylum seekers from Pakistan. His father is said to also live in east London, but his mother is dead.

The attacker had worked at a branch of the fast food chain KFC before leaving two years ago for a job on the London Underground, according to reports.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/04/london-terrorist-had-twice-referred-police-extremist-views/

TWO Warnings to the Police. No action.

Again there is this obsession with "monitoring" and holding on to information that is never acted upon, while pushing for less and less privacy.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Again there is this obsession with "monitoring" and holding on to information that is never acted upon, while pushing for less and less privacy.

And when PM May says things can't continue as they are, she means evidently that she wants authority to censor YouTube and other social media, while continuing to import & breed jihadis. That way, she can censor "Islamophobia", while continuing to spread Islam.

rando says

Muslim even distantly related to any of these losers.

These losers are delusional enough to think that they are not losers, even in death....the true losers are the victims and their families.

The 'winners' are the people who make excuses for them

curious2 says

Almost all others believed in appeasement, and would have allowed Britain to become a subordinate satellite of a Nazi empire, with a Nazi puppet monarch.

I think that was mentioned in the faux historical drama, 'Fatherland' ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatherland_%281994_film%29

rando says

CNN is not trustworthy.

Hiring actors to protest or support a cause is an old and often used tactic. Why do you hate capitalism? Money is speech, so as long as CNN paid these actors, their protest was real like the free speech rights of corporations. Long live Citizen's United.

rando says

getting serious about deporting every Muslim even distantly related to any of these losers

How distant? Second cousins, third generation US citizens OK? Where will you deport them to?

MMR says

These losers are delusional enough to think that they are not losers

I was poking through some of the Musa Jibril videos on YouTube, and saw links to videos entitled "we are not weak" and similar themes. The denial tells you something. The fear that they are indeed weak losers who have nothing but terrorism is indeed in their minds.

What they need is an alternative which gives them meaning and self-respect outside of Islam. What is that exactly? Christianity works for some. Capitalism is probably not it. Humanism is too abstract. Their families are all infected with the virus of Islam, which makes them want to re-infect or kill anyone who manages to cure themselves.

I almost feel sorry for Muslims. Their minds are trapped in the year 650 AD.

FP says

How distant? Second cousins, third generation US citizens OK? Where will you deport them to?

Most of them have dual citizenship. Also, a few thousand in the right palms and they'll take them in. It's much cheaper in terms of lives and multiwife welfare.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Most of them have dual citizenship. Also, a few thousand in the right palms and they'll take them in. It's much cheaper in terms of lives and multiwife welfare.

But they are still US citizens (third generation in my example). Or perhaps we can take an example from Stalin and send them to Alaska (like he was moving whole peoples to Siberia). Or why bother deporting, just do like the Nazis - 100 Poles for every German.

rando says

What they need is an alternative which gives them meaning and self-respect outside of Islam.

The best alternative is opposing Islam. Promoting blasphemy everywhere could make a huge difference for this reason among others. The best sites criticizing Islam tend to be written by people who grew up with that hateful fraud, because they can literally cite chapter and verse from memory. The problem is we're not even trying to help people get out from under the dead charlatan Mohamed. To the contrary, our own government is empowering and spreading arguably the worst form of his fraud, Salafi/Wahabi.

America confronted communism and the Nazism, but has chosen to monetize and weaponize Islam instead of denouncing it.

It's a good day to be conservative!

I find it odd that Islamic Conservatives and Christian Conservatives both have the same reaction after a terror attack.

I wonder if they ask themselves why they have the same reaction to such a heinous act. Probably because they are very similar

FP says

But they are still US citizens (third generation in my example). Or perhaps we can take an example from Stalin and send them to Alaska (like he was moving whole peoples to Siberia). Or why bother deporting, just do like the Nazis - 100 Poles for every German.

What happened to second/third Gen Germans, Japanese, and Italians in WW2?

People seen this happen so frequently that the only reaction is disappointment in governments inability and ineptitude to protect its citizens from Islamic terror.

Sad for the victims and their families, but that won't help them at this point.

errc says

It's a good day to be conservative!

I find it odd that Islamic Conservatives and Christian Conservatives both have the same reaction after a terror attack.

I wonder if they ask themselves why they have the same reaction to such a heinous act. Probably because they are very similar

Notice how wonderful, cuddly, demilitarized UK police simply fucking fled when couple of ragheads with knives showed up.

Knives are illegal to carry in UK, btw.

errc says

I find it odd that Islamic Conservatives and Christian Conservatives both have the same reaction after a terror attack.

What reaction are "Christian Conservatives" having to the attack? I'm not one, but from what I've seen on social media, there seems to be a lot of backlash against radical Islam, sympathy for the victims, and more calls for stricter travel entry guidelines.

From the Islamic side, I see a lot of apathy to be honest (I have muslim friends on Facebook who were posting non-stop about the Bernie supporter who stabbed people in Portland, but they quickly disappeared when the identities of the London attackers became public) with a scattered amount of actual support (because of Bush wars etc).

The reactions are nothing alike.

FP says

How distant? Second cousins, third generation US citizens OK? Where will you deport them to?

Would be enough to deport ones who were naturalized. After that, community will self-police.

I still like this version better:

What reaction are "Christian Conservatives" having to the attack? I'm not one, but from what I've seen on social media, there seems to be a lot of backlash against radical Islam, sympathy for the victims, and more calls for stricter travel entry guidelines.

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You somehow missed the post that claimed "it's a good day to be a conservative."

From outside of your religious wars, looking in, this is a disgusting attitude. People (Christian Conservatives) cheering on these attacks, because they believe it's scoring them political points. It's abhorrent behavior, which would be fine in a free society, but these people are going to demand that my country engages in another war that it has zero chance of winning.

Par for the course for Christian Conservatives. Demand that we wage perpetual wars where the only possible outcome is to be Failed Losers, that's what CC's are all about.

The Terrorists:

1. Is Khuram Butt (al-head), Second Generation Inbred Pakistani who already appeared on a program about Jihadis next door.
2. Is a guy named Rachid Redouane, claimed to be Moroccan, had an Ireland ID Card and was allegedly married to an Irishwoman with Bad Taste.
3. Totally Uknown

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/suspects-behind-london-terrorist-attack/

Anybody wanna take a guess that #3 is a Rapefugee aka Migrant?

I don't see anyone cheering from Christian side. I guess you see what you want to see errc.

errc says

What reaction are "Christian Conservatives" having to the attack? I'm not one, but from what I've seen on social media, there seems to be a lot of backlash against radical Islam, sympathy for the victims, and more calls for stricter travel entry guidelines.

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You somehow missed the post that claimed "it's a good day to be a conservative."

From outside of your religious wars, looking in, this is a disgusting attitude. People (Christian Conservatives) cheering on these attacks, because they believe it's scoring them political points. It's abhorrent behavior, which would be fine in a free society, but these people are going to demand that my country engages in another war that it has zero chance of winning.

Par for the course for Christian Conservatives. Demand that we wage perpetual wars where the only possible outcome is to be Failed Losers, that's what CC's are all about.

Post #49, for the blind and willful ignorant. Followers of the Real Peaceful Religion

Quigley says

Leftists continue to lose in these days. Their ideology is revealed over and over to be 💩 and inconsistent drivel, their backers are proven to be craven grasping billionaires with aspirations of totalitarianism, and their "warriors" are found to be abjectly stupid criminals. It's a good day to be conservative!

First thought in the wake of tragedy: It's a good day to be conservative. Sad

errc says

You somehow missed the post that claimed "it's a good day to be a conservative."

I don't want to speak for Quigley, but he is also one person on a random internet messageboard.

Your statement said "I find it odd that Islamic Conservatives and Christian Conservatives both have the same reaction after a terror attack." Maybe you should rephrase your statement to only include Quigley?

errc says

First thought in the wake of tragedy: It's a good day to be conservative. Sad

First thought in the wake of tragedy: How can we distract from the Causes of Terror and stop Islamofauxbia?

Goran_K says

errc says

You somehow missed the post that claimed "it's a good day to be a conservative."

I don't want to speak for Quigley, but he is also one person on a random internet messageboard.

Your statement said "I find it odd that Islamic Conservatives and Christian Conservatives both have the same reaction after a terror attack." Maybe you should rephrase your statement to only include Quigley?

Turnabout is fair play. You condemn billions of Muslims over the acts of a few Muslims, so why do you take issue with applying the same rule to Christian Cons?

They are not complex and unpredictable creatures, rather simple and predictable. That's why everyone uses them like the crusty cum rag that they are, albeit, nice people.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

errc says

First thought in the wake of tragedy: It's a good day to be conservative. Sad

First thought in the wake of tragedy: How can we distract from the Causes of Terror and stop Islamofauxbia?

Maybe in your Augmented Reality, where life plays out on the Internet, but not in the real world. There's more than enough real world problems with fairly simple solutions, all within an arms reach, right here in our own backyard. But people are so driven by propaganda, and the lie that "that is too much to expect right now", or that "now is not the time for that, we must focus on things that most profit the MIC and Big Pharma first and foremost, even if its 1000's miles away in a world that I'm as likely to visit as Mars".

Go back to watching daytime Soap Operas, Nana

errc says

Turnabout is fair play. You condemn billions of Muslims over the acts of a few Muslims, so why do you take issue with applying the same rule to Christian Cons?

A few muslims? Try hundreds of millions. This data is from left leaning Pew Research.

So you're saying 100's of millions of Muslims have committed acts of terrorism?

You're a fucking liar 🤥

errc says

So you're saying 100's of millions of Muslims have committed acts of terrorism?

You're a fucking liar 🤥

They wouldn't be opposed to those acts under Sharia which is the real problem, the complete apathy, or even tacit support of terrorism from the Muslim community.

If the current trend in Terrorist attacks continues, the Candlelight vigil will be the primary cause of Global Warming.

Goran_K says

Pew Research.

is funded by the Pew Charitable Trusts, which began expressly conservative and religious, but became ostensibly non-partisan and non-ideological, or rather centrist.

errc says

You condemn billions of Muslims over the acts of a few Muslims, so why do you take issue with applying the same rule to Christian Cons?

There aren't billions of Muslims. There are over a billion people who call themselves Muslim, but many of them live in places where they would be killed if they didn't call themselves Muslim. And therein lies a very significant difference: Islam commands believers to kill apostates and other disbelievers, and basically everyone else. Nothing about being Christian or even conservative commands anything like that. You can find good and bad people anywhere, or at least you can find people doing good and bad things anywhere, and many of them point to some doctrine as a pretext for their actions. The difference with Islam is, it does actually say that, and in most countries that have Muslim majorities, most Muslims demand Sharia.

errc says

So you're saying 100's of millions of Muslims have committed acts of terrorism?

He didn't say that. He said hundreds of millions of Muslims would support the legal execution of blasphemers (including atheists), apostates, etc. Muslims have a long track record of genocide against disbelievers, including the deliberate murder of more than 60 million so far. Consider the Armenian genocide in Turkey, and the slaughter of a million Hindus in Bangladesh, just to name two well documented examples from recent history. Mohamed has caused more damage than Hitler, the Koran is arguably worse than Mein Kampf, and 100k European Muslims joined the Nazi SS due expressly to the similarities of their doctrines. The Muslim Nazi SS earned a reputation for extreme brutality and lethality. Once they make it legal, it doesn't count as terrorism.

errc says

Turnabout is fair play. You condemn billions of Muslims over the acts of a few Muslims, so why do you take issue with applying the same rule to Christian Cons?

What's the ratio of dead Muslims from Islamofauxbia to Innocents killed by Islamic Terrorists? 1:10000?

Salafism/Wahabism is a legitimate, centuries old School of Muslim that is becoming more and more popular. If Methodism is "Real Christianity", then, by virtue of age, so is Salafism "real Islam" as the founders of the latter date back to the time of Wesley. In fact, Salafism means "Ancestors" and prides itself on being a "Return to Real Original Islam"

Please compare the number of European and American deaths by Christian Terror to that of Muslim Terror. Not even close.

I can't remember the last time Father Mayi or Praisegod Barebones shot up a Gay Bar.

zzyzzx says

If the current trend in Terrorist attacks continues, the Candlelight vigil will be the primary cause of Global Warming.

lol, ziiiiing

TwoScoopsMcGee says

What happened to second/third Gen Germans, Japanese, and Italians in WW2?

What is your point?