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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jan 8, 8:56am
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jan 8, 8:56am
Hey @Patrick
Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.
Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 9:01am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Why bother hosting an Internet forum if not to have people posting on it?
Hey @Patrick
Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.
Why bother hosting an Internet forum if not to have people posting on it?
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 9:09am
Patrick says
So why don’t you try and do it for this site rather than diluting it? I just don’t get the logic. How can you say you’ll keep this site the same but also start all the others? What about the obvious overlap?
How are a multitude of micro sites with next to no viewership going to grow? They will never get the necessary traffic.
A small site with a tight editorial focus will attract a narrow but devoted audience.
So why don’t you try and do it for this site rather than diluting it? I just don’t get the logic. How can you say you’ll keep this site the same but also start all the others? What about the obvious overlap?
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 9:09am
TwoScoopsPlissken says
Who has said they’re doing him a favor?
Hey @Patrick
Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.
Who has said they’re doing him a favor?
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Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 9:54am
Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 9:54am
errc says
Don't know what happened, so I can't comment on that incident.
But I will say for the most part, you shouldn't put out so much personal info on the internet like Roberto was doing, and then on top of that, act antagonistically towards people who don't agree with you every other post. No a good recipe for your personal information not being abused.
Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.
Don't know what happened, so I can't comment on that incident.
But I will say for the most part, you shouldn't put out so much personal info on the internet like Roberto was doing, and then on top of that, act antagonistically towards people who don't agree with you every other post. No a good recipe for your personal information not being abused.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 9:57am
Goran_K says
So it’s Roberto fault that Sniper/CiC doxxed him at work with a fale gun threat.
Interesting angle
errc says
Why do some people think they're doing you a favor by using Patrick.net? I'm completely mystified by the attitude. It's not like there are ads all over that people are clicking on and you're making big money from revenue.
Don't know what happened, so I can't comment on that incident.
But I will say for the most part, you shouldn't put out so much personal info on the internet like Roberto was doing, and then on top of that, act antagonistically towards people who don't agree with you every other post. No a good recipe for your personal information not being abused.
So it’s Roberto fault that Sniper/CiC doxxed him at work with a fale gun threat.
Interesting angle
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CBOEtrader
2018 Jan 8, 10:06am
CBOEtrader
2018 Jan 8, 10:06am
What was it you said about calling someone a liar w no evidence?
This is exactly how you bring down the quality of the forum and chase people off.
How about you prove me wrong by being respectful and civil? I don't think you can, which is why this forum is betyer w/o You.
However, I'll admit I underestimated you if you can type these words "I respect Trump supporters."
I'll start, i respect HRC supporters. See how easy being civil is? Now you try
This is exactly how you bring down the quality of the forum and chase people off.
How about you prove me wrong by being respectful and civil? I don't think you can, which is why this forum is betyer w/o You.
However, I'll admit I underestimated you if you can type these words "I respect Trump supporters."
I'll start, i respect HRC supporters. See how easy being civil is? Now you try
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 10:10am
Have to say though, there’s not much point in saying you have 35 “followers” as some kind of supportive argument these days - I very much doubt there are even 35 people left posting on here.
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Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 10:20am
Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 10:20am
errc says
Never said that. But would you act like Roberto was acting if everyone on this forum knew your name, home address, and where you worked?
So it’s Roberto fault that Sniper/CiC doxxed him at work with a fale gun threat.
Interesting angle
Never said that. But would you act like Roberto was acting if everyone on this forum knew your name, home address, and where you worked?
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Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 10:29am
Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 10:29am
HappyGilmore says
You're free to express your ideas as long as you stop with the personal attacks. That's the only reason I've ever jailed your posts.
Goran_K says
This is my best evidence as to why you should not be a moderator at all.
This is a terribly toxic argument IMO.
I'm sure it seems that way to you. Free exchange of ideas probably terrifies you.
You're free to express your ideas as long as you stop with the personal attacks. That's the only reason I've ever jailed your posts.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jan 8, 10:45am
(Now in Uncivil Jail)
Mods being told to Fuck Off? Is it ban time yet?
Sincerely,
A Dishonest Liar (since November 2016)
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Jan 8, 10:45am
Fuck off. Anyone who cares will click the link and read what I wrote in jail. It's not deleted. People need to know that you're a piece of shit and that you helped destroy this site.
(Now in Uncivil Jail)
Mods being told to Fuck Off? Is it ban time yet?
Sincerely,
A Dishonest Liar (since November 2016)
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 11:25am
The one thing that makes me certain that you guys are disingenuous as hell is because you never complained about CiC/Ironman/Sniper harassing people here, for years
Why do you think that is?
Why do you think that is?
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 11:28am
Problem is we have politics as entertainment here in america. People are personally identifying with politicians and painting on them as artists on blank canvass. However, I prefer sports and movies for "entertainment" to politics. And I am not the only one.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 11:31am
Goran_K says
A rather disproportionate number of threads lately have been dedicated to pointing out the excesses of this powerful group of american politicians knows as "SJW"s, a group of university campus gliterratis who are likely challenged to withdraw $300 from a local ATM machine. A true scary force in our democratic process via the toilet wars....
So, what's the stats look like?
A rather disproportionate number of threads lately have been dedicated to pointing out the excesses of this powerful group of american politicians knows as "SJW"s, a group of university campus gliterratis who are likely challenged to withdraw $300 from a local ATM machine. A true scary force in our democratic process via the toilet wars....
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Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 12:32pm
Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 12:32pm
Hmmm reboot sounds interesting. I could make a write-only archive of the old content, then start over being just about housing and investing, strictly no politics.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2018 Jan 8, 1:22pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2018 Jan 8, 1:22pm
Ba hahahaha!
They picking on me Patrick!!! They the bullies!
Wahhhh!
They picking on me Patrick!!! They the bullies!
Wahhhh!
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Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 2:09pm
Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 2:09pm
btw, I am a member of two other forums (one a firearms forum, and the other a GM Trucks forum), I have not ever been banned or even suspended at either one.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2018 Jan 8, 2:17pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2018 Jan 8, 2:17pm
Damn, and here I was supposed to be turning a new leaf this year.
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Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 2:18pm
Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 2:18pm
HappyGilmore says
I don't troll on any forum.
I don't imagine you have as much occasion to troll on a GM Trucks forum as you do on a politics one.
I don't troll on any forum.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2018 Jan 8, 2:24pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2018 Jan 8, 2:24pm
You are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.
Stop lying.
The uncivil button is there. Use it.0
Stop lying.
The uncivil button is there. Use it.0
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HappyGilmore
2018 Jan 8, 2:26pm
PEACEandGOODWILL says
Nope--there is no uncivil button for me.
You are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.
Stop lying.
The uncivil button is there. Use it.0
Nope--there is no uncivil button for me.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2018 Jan 8, 2:30pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2018 Jan 8, 2:30pm
HappyGilmore says
Disclose why! Or you are the disingenous poster I acause you of being.
PEACEandGOODWILL saysYou are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.
Stop lying.
The uncivil button is there. Use it.0
Nope--there is no uncivil button for me.
Disclose why! Or you are the disingenous poster I acause you of being.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 2:58pm
Patrick says
How many posters do you think that would leave you with?
Hmmm reboot sounds interesting. I could make a write-only archive of the old content, then start over being just about housing and investing, strictly no politics.
How many posters do you think that would leave you with?
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 2:58pm
Nomograph is right by the way, but nowhere did he say to restrict it to just those two topics. You are cutting your own throat by restricting yourself so much. What happens when the conversation inevitably strays into other areas? Politics isn’t the problem per se; it’s how you’re dealing with policing the forum that is the real issue.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 2:58pm
Sorry about going back and forth between anon and CBOE, I am jumping between too many computers and apparently only logged in as CBOE in half of them. FYI, anon_4480e = CBOE
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 2:59pm
Patrick says
Focusing on housing and investing will not generate much interest at this time. These topics generate more discussion when times are rough, when there's "blood in the streets" and everyone is panicking. Instead what we have is a bull market in both and the bears have been trounced thoroughly.
Politics on the other hand has potential to generate plenty of discussion over the upcoming years especially 3 and/or 7 years from now especially given the fact that americans have not really resolved the culture war issues going back to 1960s and seem unlikely to do so due to echo-chamber colonies.
Hmmm reboot sounds interesting. I could make a write-only archive of the old content, then start over being just about housing and investing, strictly no politics.
Focusing on housing and investing will not generate much interest at this time. These topics generate more discussion when times are rough, when there's "blood in the streets" and everyone is panicking. Instead what we have is a bull market in both and the bears have been trounced thoroughly.
Politics on the other hand has potential to generate plenty of discussion over the upcoming years especially 3 and/or 7 years from now especially given the fact that americans have not really resolved the culture war issues going back to 1960s and seem unlikely to do so due to echo-chamber colonies.
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HappyGilmore
2018 Jan 8, 3:39pm
CBOEtrader says
Yes, that picture of a dildo shaped cake that was posted on here and not marked uncivil by any of the adults was very civil.
The adults here like to keep things civil
Yes, that picture of a dildo shaped cake that was posted on here and not marked uncivil by any of the adults was very civil.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 3:50pm
PEACEandGOODWILL says
@Patrick where is my uncivil button?
You are a true dingbat. Roberto put his personal info out.
Stop lying.
The uncivil button is there. Use it.0
@Patrick where is my uncivil button?
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cynn
2018 Jan 8, 3:54pm
cynn
2018 Jan 8, 3:54pm
No I did not. I also think errrrrrc is also ginchy, but I can't always understand his POV.
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Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 4:28pm
Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 4:28pm
marcus says
This is a great thing for the United States. LBJ was a known racist who devastated the black community with dependency on entitlements.
"starve the beast" undoing of Johnson's great society
This is a great thing for the United States. LBJ was a known racist who devastated the black community with dependency on entitlements.
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marcus
2018 Jan 8, 4:33pm
marcus
2018 Jan 8, 4:33pm
Goran_K says
That might have been an effect, but I don't believe it was his intent, and it was obviously necessary. The bad thing is the connection politically to the left.
It turns out prison is more way more expensive than public aid (for the govt) but if you play it right the owner class can get in on it (hey - more back door welfare for the 1%) and also bonus, they're not reproducing when they're in prison.
You tell me, which side are the worse racists ?
LBJ was a known racist who devastated the black community with dependency on entitlements.
That might have been an effect, but I don't believe it was his intent, and it was obviously necessary. The bad thing is the connection politically to the left.
It turns out prison is more way more expensive than public aid (for the govt) but if you play it right the owner class can get in on it (hey - more back door welfare for the 1%) and also bonus, they're not reproducing when they're in prison.
You tell me, which side are the worse racists ?
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marcus
2018 Jan 8, 4:39pm
marcus
2018 Jan 8, 4:39pm
Btw @CBOE I was perhaps a little over the top above. I do attempt to reason with you and you had little to do with my leaving for awhile (not that you would care). Curious2 and a couple other assholes were more my reason, combined with the alt right wingers getting overly full of themselves and dominating the site more.
The alt right BS gets tiring. In my book T-lips has always been a tool, but ever since he became a paid troll for the alt right he's become so much worse than just tiresome.
The alt right BS gets tiring. In my book T-lips has always been a tool, but ever since he became a paid troll for the alt right he's become so much worse than just tiresome.
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Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 4:52pm
Goran_K
2018 Jan 8, 4:52pm
marcus says
I don't believe LBJ's original intent was to devastate the black community either (though I know he did not harbor much love for blacks), but it was his intent to use government entitlements for Democrat votes, and it was an extremely successful strategy. Look at the black inner city across America, complete and utter destruction socially and economically.
That might have been an effect, but I don't believe it was his intent, and it was obviously necessary. The bad thing is the connection politically to the left.
I don't believe LBJ's original intent was to devastate the black community either (though I know he did not harbor much love for blacks), but it was his intent to use government entitlements for Democrat votes, and it was an extremely successful strategy. Look at the black inner city across America, complete and utter destruction socially and economically.
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Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 8:54pm
Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 8:54pm
I'm getting pretty sick of users talking about other users and not about actual topics. No one coming here from outside could care less. It's less than zero content. It's anti-content.
Just going to start blowing every every comment that so much as mentions another user.
2018 Jan 8th, 8:52pm is the moment I start deleting any comment talking about another user. Right now.
Just going to start blowing every every comment that so much as mentions another user.
2018 Jan 8th, 8:52pm is the moment I start deleting any comment talking about another user. Right now.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 9:05pm
Just as a quick aside as you’re here Patrick, when I highlight a piece of text to quote, that section appears in the quote box on my Android phone. When I do the same on my iPad, the whole comment appears in the quote box (rather than just the section I wanted).
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Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 9:08pm
Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 9:08pm
Yes, there are great difficulties in selecting text on mobile devices.
You can see how I implemented it here: https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net/blob/master/node/patrick_net.js#L2972
It's the best I could do for now. One day I'll have employees who can figure this shit out for me. Probably not, but I haven't given up hope of that.
You can see how I implemented it here: https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net/blob/master/node/patrick_net.js#L2972
It's the best I could do for now. One day I'll have employees who can figure this shit out for me. Probably not, but I haven't given up hope of that.
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Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 9:11pm
Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 9:11pm
anon_08dee says
OK, that one is pretty funny. It's about another user, but hey.
Patrick is a genius for making that decision.
OK, that one is pretty funny. It's about another user, but hey.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 8, 9:44pm
Patrick says
Thanks for all the hard work.
I know it’s been said before, but do you not think at this point it may be easiest just to let people moderate their own threads (as frequently suggested). It seems like a reasonable compromise. There’s moderation and if people aren’t happy with that moderation, then they’re free to start their own threads. It’s got to be better than the current situation. You can combine that with banning obvious trolls (three strikes and you’re out or some such). That’s got to be easier than deleting any post directed at another user (aren’t all posts?).
Yes, there are great difficulties in selecting text on mobile devices.
You can see how I implemented it here: https://github.com/killelea/node.patrick.net/blob/master/node/patrick_net.js#L2972
It's the best I could do for now. One day I'll have employees who can figure this shit out for me. Probably not, but I haven't given up hope of that.
Thanks for all the hard work.
I know it’s been said before, but do you not think at this point it may be easiest just to let people moderate their own threads (as frequently suggested). It seems like a reasonable compromise. There’s moderation and if people aren’t happy with that moderation, then they’re free to start their own threads. It’s got to be better than the current situation. You can combine that with banning obvious trolls (three strikes and you’re out or some such). That’s got to be easier than deleting any post directed at another user (aren’t all posts?).
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Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 9:45pm
Patrick
2018 Jan 8, 9:45pm
anon_aa05b says
I did have people moderating their own threads for a while, but it also just inflamed the interpersonal conflict.
easiest just to let people moderate their own threads
I did have people moderating their own threads for a while, but it also just inflamed the interpersonal conflict.
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Anyone have a particular love of a topic and want to be a co-founder of a clone based on that topic? You'd be moderator-god, and own half of the rights to the domain name and the database (the source code would remain open source and available to the public for free). I do the tech, you do writing, moderation, and marketing.
The goal would be to build traffic and revenue (probably advertising) and then sell the thing ASAP, splitting the proceeds.
If you're interested, what topic would it be, and do you have a domain name to use?
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