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TwoScoopsPlissken says

"He dindu nuffin'" - he was well on his way

Obama's son was definitely not a pure fruit that the media tried to portray him as. He had a troubled past, that's for sure. It's unfortunate his life ended the way it did, but was totally justified.

Goran_K says

TwoScoopsPlissken says

"He dindu nuffin'" - he was well on his way

Obama's son was definitely not a pure fruit that the media tried to portray him as. He had a troubled past, that's for sure. It's unfortunate his life ended the way it did, but was totally justified.

How do you know that it was totally justified?

The Government did a good job this time, and Fox News relayed Real News this time?

Fine them 200k per employee per year, min of 2 year charge per infraction.

Business only understand cost benefit analysis.

Patrick says

How much jail time is appropriate for the employers of illegal aliens?

quince años

errc says

How do you know that it was totally justified?

There was a trial, remember?

Or, did Alex Jones sway the jury?

why waste time and resources putting them in prison. fine $1M per illegal.

errc says

How do you know that it was totally justified?

The Government did a good job this time, and Fox News relayed Real News this time?

Zimmerman was judged by a jury of his peers.

The little dindoo could have survived had he simply gone home. Unfortunately, I think Trayvon would have eventually gotten shot even had he survived Zimmerman's bullet. He had no guidance from his parents and was already engaging in a life of crime.

Goran_K says

errc says

How do you know that it was totally justified?

The Government did a good job this time, and Fox News relayed Real News this time?

Zimmerman was judged by a jury of his peers.

The little dindoo could have survived had he simply gone home. Unfortunately, I think Trayvon would have eventually gotten shot even had he survived Zimmerman's bullet. He had no guidance from his parents and was already engaging in a life of crime.

The jury found him not guilty of second degree murder, because the prosecution were failed Losers

However the verdict says nothing to the murder being justified, and it’s obvious that Zimmerman is a gun nut retard who murdered an innocent kid who was simply walking back from the store with some snacks

anon_8f378 says

Not sure that's at all accurate. He's had one investigation.

Yes, 1 continuous investigation that shows no sign of ending in the foreseeable future.

errc says

it’s obvious that Zimmerman is a gun nut retard who murdered an innocent kid who was simply walking back from the store with some snacks

So Trayvon didn't ambush Zimmerman and punch him repeatedly while on top of him? Is that what the leftist story is going to be?

It's funny how all the stories the Left chooses to highlight about Police Brutality/Anti-Black Behavior are flawed as fuck.

Brown, Martin, Syville Smith.

The first charged a cop, the second charged a neighborhood watchman, and the third was carrying a stolen gun when he was shot.

In fact Smith had a rap sheet for everything from carrying a concealed weapon to having 'open intoxicants' in a vehicle. Martin had stolen jewelry in his locker but wasn't prosecuted because Miami-Dade and Broward have a "don't charge" policy to fake the criminality stats downwards (and was also suspended for drug possession), and Brown had just robbed a convenience store.

Smith was also a suspect in the intimidation of a crime witness, but the prosecutor dropped the charges.

Also the Media didn't spend too much time on Ismaaiyl Brinsley, who shot TWO NYPD police officers in their car after shooting his girlfriend, in reaction to Brown's death during his resisting of arrest.

Goran_K says

errc says

it’s obvious that Zimmerman is a gun nut retard who murdered an innocent kid who was simply walking back from the store with some snacks

So Trayvon didn't ambush Zimmerman and punch him repeatedly while on top of him? Is that what the leftist story is going to be?

How can you ambush someone who is stalking you?

Martin was walking home with some snacks when he was profiled and stalked by a criminally insane gun nut retard. He was 5’8” 155lb for chrissakes, why does the Right always champion such pussys like Zimmerman?

I don’t know what the Leftists story is going to be, you’ll have to ask one of the Trumpcucks that always watch CNN for some strange reason, i guess thats how they MAGA. I don’t have time for the propaganda on TV

TwoScoopsPlissken says

It's funny how all the stories the Left chooses to highlight about Police Brutality/Anti-Black Behavior are flawed as fuck.

Brown, Martin, Syville Smith.

The first charged a cop, the second charged a neighborhood watchman, and the third was carrying a stolen gun when he was shot.

In fact Smith had a rap sheet for everything from carrying a concealed weapon to having 'open intoxicants' in a vehicle. Martin had stolen jewelry in his locker but wasn't prosecuted because Miami-Dade and Broward have a "don't charge" policy to fake the criminality stats downwards (and was also suspended for drug possession), and Brown had just robbed a convenience store.

Smith was also a suspect in the intimidation of a crime witness, but the prosecutor dropped the charges.

Also the Media didn't spend too much time on Ismaaiyl Brinsley, who shot TWO NYPD police officers in their car after shooting his girlfriend, in reaction to Brown's death during his resisting of arrest.

Did Zimmerman know about the jewelry?

Is that why he took justice into his own hands and murdered him on the street in cold blood?


Why does the Right always champion The Police State when they’re murdering blacks and Mexicans, but the Police State is corrupt and incompetent in other situations?

It’s odd, almost seems as if their thoughts and words ard not their own. Like they’re only capable of regurgitated propaganda. Why can’t they think for themselves?

Patrick says

Not sure what would happen if I didn't have a passport.

You would be required to submit your original blue social security card.
If you don't have your original ss card you must sit in a room full of confused people and wait for the ss administrators to call you in some random manner. (Not 1st come 1st served.)

Onvacation says

Patrick says

Not sure what would happen if I didn't have a passport.

You would be required to submit your original blue social security card.
If you don't have your original ss card you must sit in a room full of confused people and wait for the ss administrators to call you in some random manner. (Not 1st come 1st served.)

But the SS card has no picture. Also it is not a proof for legal right to work. I've had a US SS card since I was a student on a visa.

errc says

How can you ambush someone who is stalking you?

Okay, so if someone is talking me, I call the police. Trayvon was ON THE PHONE with his hood rat girlfriend describing his encounter with Zimmerman. He can't call 911?

You don't act like a raging ape and throw someone on the ground and try to punch their face into the pavement.

errc says

Did Zimmerman know about the jewelry?

That's not the point. The point is this wasn't some typical kid getting a Slurpee. He was a neglected proto-thug who already committed burglary and sold drugs.

Goran_K says

Okay, so if someone is talking me, I call the police. Trayvon was ON THE PHONE with his hood rat girlfriend describing his encounter with Zimmerman. He can't call 911?

errc says

Is that why he took justice into his own hands and murdered him on the street in cold blood?

Zimmerman turned back towards his car when the dispatcher said "Don't confront". On his way back, Trayvon approached him from the "left and rear" and started screaming at him. When Zimmerman turned around Trayvon the Blessed Negro Youth punched him in the face yelling "You got a problem with me?!".

Trayvon was trying to impress a fat horny bitch like his mother. Not the first guy to get himself killed in the pursuit of mediocre pussy.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

It's funny how all the stories the Left chooses to highlight about Police Brutality/Anti-Black Behavior are flawed as fuck.

It's not flawed at all. The point is that police don't care about the lives of minorities and proceed to lethal force way too quickly. Whether it's a lack of training, lack of competence, or racism, people are getting killed in situations where they shouldn't be.

anon_8f378 says

It's not flawed at all. The point is that police don't care about the lives of minorities and proceed to lethal force way too quickly. Whether it's a lack of training, lack of competence, or racism, people are getting killed in situations where they shouldn't be.

I gave three of probably the most hyped examples in recent years.

Judges and Juries exist.

Brown was resisting arrest and approached Wilson screaming at him. A grand jury agreed and refused to indict Wilson.
Smith was fleeing officers while possessing a stolen handgun. A Black Officer shot him and the jury found the Officer not guilty on all counts.
Martin was shot after punching the neighborhood watchman in the face. The jury again said "not guilty".

Additionally, there was no evidence Brown yelled "My Hands are Up! Don't shoot!" that Sally Kohn and the BLM pushed for weeks. The sole witness to that was Dorian Brown, who was Brown's accomplice.

Even if every time a cop fatally shot a Black Guy, the numbers of Blacks murdered by other Blacks is exponentially higher. By ignoring the Thug Culture of Violence perpetuated by BT-1000s Welfare Queens, Hollywood and Corporate Music, BLM, and other Left groups make a mockery of their alleged concern for "Violence".

anon_8f378 says

The point is that police don't care about the lives of minorities

As if they care about lives of non-minorities.

An estimated 1 in every 291 stops or arrests resulted in a death or medically treated injury, and this rate did not differ significantly between racial or ethnic groups, according to the researchers.

Miller had expected higher rates of death and injury during stops or arrests of minorities. “But it turns out, the probability you will be killed or seriously injured if (you are) stopped/arrested by the police is not affected by your race/ethnicity,” he said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-injuries-police-arrests-idUSKCN1052G1

While I agree that (many) cops are a bunch of bullies with (oversized) pensions, who will never be prosecuted for whatever illegal things they do, data show that a white guy is just as likely to be killed as a black guy when stopped by police.

Edit: it is useful to check statistics before assuming something, even if that something is excessively peddled by media.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Brown was resisting arrest and approached Wilson screaming at him. A grand jury agreed and refused to indict.
Smith was fleeing officers while possessing a stolen handgun. A Black Officer shot him and the jury found the Officer not guilty on all counts.
Martin was shot after punching the neighborhood watchman in the face. The jury again said "not guilty".

Yes, I'm well aware of what the jury said. That doesn't change the fact that the shootings are all bad. Those people should not have died. Right wing groups are very callous with human life. I can't tell you how many times someone has posted that a suspect "didn't follow the police orders exactly--therefore he got what he deserved." Anyone who says that is a complete and utter idiot.

Again and again, the link between Trump and authoritarianism is proven to be unbelievably strong. It's both uncanny and scary.

anon_8f378 says

Yes, I'm well aware of what the jury said. That doesn't change the fact that the shootings are all bad. Those people should not have died. Right wing groups are very callous with human life. I can't tell you how many times someone has posted that a suspect "didn't follow the police orders exactly--therefore he got what he deserved." Anyone who says that is a complete and utter idiot.

The shootings aren't all bad. I have no problem with a man defending himself from violence by a strange teen thug, taking out a fleeing perp with a stolen gun, or stopping an aggressive man who is approaching an officer at rapid speed yelling angrily.

I'm more interested in why Jamal shooting Tyrone over drugs or nasty ratchets, which happens far more frequently than cop shootings, is all but ignored.

The same people who claim there is a "Culture of Police Violence" airily dismiss all assertions that there is a Thug Culture polluting Black Areas.

anon_8f378 says

Again and again, the link between Trump and authoritarianism is proven to be unbelievably strong. It's both uncanny and scary.

Proven? By whom? A Hard Left Social Science Professor?

I think calls to repeal an ancient liberty enshrined in the Constitution is Authoritarianism. Expropriating Land without Compensation is Authoritarianism. Mandating who people hire because of race is Authoritarianism.

The same people who claim there is a "Culture of Police Violence" airily dismiss all assertions that there is a Thug Culture polluting Black Areas.


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It’s not confined to Black Areas. It can also be found in the bedrooms of most teen white girls. Which is likely why it bothers the Trumpcucks so much. If it only happened in the hood, then they’d celebrate it and encourage it. Wipe yourselves from existence they’d say.

But the truth is, behind every Trumpcuck is surely a long history of rage over failures with women, and they hate that the poor thugs are all tapping their crushes ass, while they’re left to settle for used up hand job masseuse in search of citizenship to leech off and water down the gene pool with their mongoloid offspring

Goran_K says

He's had the largest magnifying glass ever focused on a U.S president on him for over a year and literally NOTHING has been found.

Wtf ? Trump didn't even disclose his tax returns. We don't know how much money laundering he's been involved in. And there's so much else we don't know.

And the Mueller investigation can't hold a candle to Kenneth Star's. Just because we don't know yet, doesn't mean they don't have anything.

"One difference between Nixon and Trump: when the Republicans nominated Nixon, they didn't actually KNOW he was a crook." — Stephen King

TwoScoopsPlissken says

The shootings aren't all bad. I have no problem with a man defending himself from violence by a strange teen thug, taking out a fleeing perp with a stolen gun, or stopping an aggressive man who is approaching an officer at rapid speed yelling angrily.

And there were probably others like you on the jury. But, it's really sad. Police used to be able to defuse situations and stop crazy people without killing them. And we, as a society, used to care about people being needlessly killed.


TwoScoopsPlissken says

The same people who claim there is a "Culture of Police Violence" airily dismiss all assertions that there is a Thug Culture polluting Black Areas.

More strawman arguments. I think both are true. Let's work to change both cultures.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

Proven? By whom?

It has been proven by many studies, but I was referencing the reactions of Trump supporters.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

I think calls to repeal an ancient liberty enshrined in the Constitution is Authoritarianism.

First--nobody is calling for that so your point is moot. Second--that's not authoritarian at all.


TwoScoopsPlissken says

Mandating who people hire because of race is Authoritarianism.

Nope--again, the statement is moot because it's a strawman. Also-it's not a demonstration of authoritarianism.