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curious2 says

It is difficult to estimate the frequency of intersexuality

No, it's not very hard. The frequency is near zero in essentially all species, including humans.

This is necessarily so, since it's generally fatal to reproduction to mess with gender. Every one of us has exactly two parents, one male and one female.

curious2 says

Society mandates the control of intersexual bodies because they blur and bridge the great divide; they challenge traditional beliefs about sexual difference. Hermaphrodites have unruly bodies. They do not fall into a binary classification: only a surgical shoehorn can put them there."

No, the traditional beliefs remain obviously correct and essential to our survival. Birth defects do not change the norm. If someone is born without one arm, they are not normal, and less likely to have descendants.

I know the desire to contradict reality comes from a place of pain, and don't want to make light of anyone's pain. It's not about society "mandating" anything. It's about it being the end of the line for individuals who are at war with biology itself, and the end of entire societies which fail to reproduce.

Cultural memes vs. biology and its variations. The war will never end.

Patrick says

I know the desire to contradict reality comes from a place of pain, and don't want to make light of anyone's pain.

I am sorry to have caused you pain. I had thought that you were simply misinformed. I did not realize you had such an intense fear of this issue:

Patrick says

the end of entire societies which fail to reproduce.

That sounds very similar to this comment:

FortWayne says

epidemics that can wipe out populations.

Neither of you has presented any evidence to justify your stated fear.

Evidently, you missed the part of the article that said, "Medical advances enable physicians to catch most at birth. Such infants are entered into a program of hormonal and surgical management so that they can slip quietly into society as "normal" heterosexual males or females." Many intersex persons do reproduce. You choose not to see the data drawn from physicians' clinical observation, and instead to assert your "theory" (doctrine, really) contrary to data. I could cite additional data from marine species, e.g. intersex fish that have evolved the ability to change sex, but I don't want to cause you any more pain. I don't know who can have originally hurt you in this way, nor even how, but you aren't really helping the situation by denying the existence of millions of people. Perhaps it might help to remind you of something you know already, as I have already pointed out: the "celibate" Catholic clergy have never caused the end of Catholics, much less "the end of entire societies." In fact, in Catholic schools, "celibate" priests and nuns are actually in charge of children all day, as role models, and yet we observe no shortage of Catholics, nor "the end of entire societies." I have already cited the existence of transgendered persons documented over 1,000 years in Hindu tradition, and native American berdaches, and the article above cites the Talmud; most of those societies have not ended. In land species that don't change sex, 100% reproduction is not the norm at all, especially for males, and yet the species continue. So, please take heart, the existence of people who disprove your doctrine has never caused the end of society, just as males and females using the same toilet facilities has never wiped out entire populations.