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They are relying on most people's reluctance to ask what prices are.They're also trying desperately to be hip.
Getting tired of cafes and bars that simply do not list prices.
Is it legal?
DASKAA saysIs it legal?
I imagine in some states it isn't. I know in many states almost anything on display has to have a price sticker, even if the price is displayed on the shelf under the item.
At a grocery store, sure.
don't go out if you're concerned about what something costs
Hey just order what you want! If you don’t like the prices you’re charged, negotiate for a smaller amount you are willing to pay. Since the prices aren’t listed, you can’t be accused of fraud. Instead it becomes a negotiation. Haggle a little! It might make your server uncomfortable, but they’ve seen it before, and have an unspoken policy in place for “difficult” customers. Just mention “Yelp” and you’ll get to name your price if not get it for free!
A fool and his money are soon parted. We live in an empire of debt, with deficit spending, and most people have little or no savings. It is very sad that a nation of investors and savers became a nation of borrowers and spenders. It is bizarre to see that misrepresented as some sort of virtue, as if life is only for borrowers and spenders. If you're saving and investing half your income, that's good, and I suppose you can waste the rest any way you like, but most Americans aren't saving or investing much at all.
The American medical sector overcharges people on an even larger scale.
Throw in profit and $6k would be completely reasonable. Yet it's $12k
I found that really annoying in a restaurant once or twice that I've seen, many years ago. I thought that had actually gone out of vogue. Either that or it has been too far out of my price range in recent decades for me to run in to it.
They're basically telling you to assume the price is pretty much as high as you can possibly imagine. "our ambiance and customers are so cool that we deserve the extra 50% or whatever. We only want customers who think price is irrelevant."
Fuck that.
Especially beer
Chances are your insurance company paid half of that, and The hospital said thanks and wrote off the rest.
Food items is a different story. Don't think I've ever been to place that didn't have the pricing on a food item. Drinks though, very common here not to list price.
Had my first ambulance ride to the ER recently
That’s the suckers price. Only people with plenty of money paying out of pocket or very high end insurance plans pay this amount. Chances are your insurance company paid half of that, and The hospital said thanks and wrote off the rest. Even if you had to pay out of pocket you could haggle it down quite a lot: rule is 1/2 to 2/3 off list price is what they’ll accept before turning your account over to collections (who will give them 10% of the bill).
Friend got into the ER with a bug bite at the head and swelling, told them to give her prednisone. They refused and kept her 2 days in a shitty makeshift half-room with IV Abx to no avail til they just gave her the prednisone she asked for in the first place (she's a pharm.) and it went away within a day. The bill is over $30K+ when she could have been treated out-patient with a few hours of monitoring instead, probably for less than $1K total. The system is broken and shit like this needs to be actionable on by law.
mell saysFriend got into the ER with a bug bite at the head and swelling, told them to give her prednisone. They refused and kept her 2 days in a shitty makeshift half-room with IV Abx to no avail til they just gave her the prednisone she asked for in the first place (she's a pharm.) and it went away within a day. The bill is over $30K+ when she could have been treated out-patient with a few hours of monitoring instead, probably for less than $1K total. The system is broken and shit like this needs to be actionable on by law.
And the reason they went to the ER instead of an urgent care place was?
Seriously, only go to the ER if you can speak Spanish and with no ID.
Seriously, only go to the ER if you can speak Spanish and with no ID.
zzyzzx saysSeriously, only go to the ER if you can speak Spanish and with no ID.
My Spanish is rudimentary at best. Will other languages work?
"buy one, get one free"Several years ago, JC Penney would run ads for Florsheim penny loafers for buy one pair, get the second pair half price. That was a good deal, but when I'd ask for the second pair, they'd go to the back room for a few minutes and, sure enough, come back and say we don't have another in that size. I'd ask for a rain check and they'd say we don't give rain checks. I raised a stink and told them that was essentially bait and switch and simply demanded the first pair at half price as a consolation and they gave them to me half price. They pulled that stunt twice and I've still got two boxes of as yet unused Florsheim penny loafers.
It's a subtle social engineering trick. They are relying on most people's reluctance to ask what prices are. To ask is to look cheap to your friends, and to the servers.
Places that do not list prices almost inevitably charge more than you would pay if you saw the price before ordering.
It's very disrespectful to customers. In general, you should simply leave and never go back to any cafe, bar, etc, that does not explicitly list all of its prices.