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American University Tells Faculty to Disregard ‘Quality’ of Writing When Grading

By WillPowers following x   2019 Jan 12, 6:11pm 1,228 views   27 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


A seminar at American University in February will instruct faculty members to disregard a student’s “quality” of writing when grading their papers.

According to a report from The College Fix, an upcoming seminar at American University will ask professors to disregard a student’s “quality” of writing when grading their assignments. The seminar, which will be conducted by University of Washington-Tacoma Professor Asao Inoue, will include a variety of lectures that will encourage professors to disregard the quality of writing from students.

One event will encourage professors to recognize “white language supremacy” is perpetuated by standard grading practices.

SOURCE: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/01/11/american-university-tells-faculty-to-disregard-quality-of-writing-when-grading/

Now they are making speaking correct English a racist issue. This how they dumb down the American people. A higher education? What a joke. More like: learn to be a mind controlled robot and think what they tell you to think and if you don't, then you're out. That's teaching them. Only it's not teaching them to be free thinkers.
Will Powers
1   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 12, 6:30pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Now they are making speaking correct English a racist issue.

Remember the "Ebonics" nonsense from a few years ago?
2   Strategist   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 12, 6:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WillPowers says
A seminar at American University in February will instruct faculty members to disregard a student’s “quality” of writing when grading their papers.


Makes perfect sense to me. Why grade your English when you are in a Science class?
I was always a slow writer, and could not finish the whole test at times. I remember telling the Professor...Am I being tested for speed writing, or for the knowledge on the subject?
3   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 12, 6:43pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Liberalism destroying colleges

Higher prices, shittier education.
4   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 12, 7:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WillPowers says
A seminar at American University in February will instruct faculty members to disregard a student’s “quality” of writing when grading their papers.


Excellent. We all know people who read don't disregard writing quality.

Thanks, American University, for being sure your brainwashed products communicate ineffectively and won't be read.
5   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 12, 10:46pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

"We used to like our students to be literate. However, as long as they keep taking out the loans and paying the tuition, and parrot our socialist delusions, semi-literate will do!"
6   HEYYOU   ignore (27)   2019 Jan 13, 1:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This Representative democracy has been here 243 years,close to life expectancy.
I think I'm seeing glimpses.
8   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 13, 8:15am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Why grade your English when you are in a Science class?

Because proper communication with the written and spoken word so that others can understand your IDEAS is the most important skill you should get from your education.
9   Strategist   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 13, 10:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Strategist says
Why grade your English when you are in a Science class?

Because proper communication with the written and spoken word so that others can understand your IDEAS is the most important skill you should get from your education.


I fully agree that proper communication is the most important skill. But still does not make sense to grade communication in every class instead of the subject at hand. If you have enough communication skills for the professor to know what you are saying, that should be enough.
Math skills are also important. They don't grade your math skills in an English class, why grade your English skills in a Math class?
10   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 13, 5:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

Math skills are also important. They don't grade your math skills in an English class, why grade your English skills in a Math class?


This is about “white language supremacy” the new black, gay/lesbian is the white male. He is the new demon on the block and everything associated with him must now be repressed. If you want to be on top, have your skin died black and get an afro if you're white, then you can say whatever you want, however you want to say it.
11   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 13, 5:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Wryting Ingish gud iz Wyt Supreemicie
12   Misc   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 13, 9:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Let's see...how to grade papers then? --- Hmmmmm … must be based on monetary value the student gives to the teacher. Yes, that'll cure racism for sure.
13   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 14, 6:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Math skills are also important. They don't grade your math skills in an English class, why grade your English skills in a Math class?

Math (problem solving) is the second most inportant thing you SHOULD learn from your education. It has been my experience that students weak in one skill are often weak in the other. Teachers should teach and reinforce all four skills students should get from an education.
14   Rin   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 18, 3:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Strategist says
Math skills are also important. They don't grade your math skills in an English class, why grade your English skills in a Math class?

Math (problem solving) is the second most inportant thing you SHOULD learn from your education. It has been my experience that students weak in one skill are often weak in the other. Teachers should teach and reinforce all four skills students should get from an education.


What is everyone talking about?

Here's a math question:

1) Solve for X in X + 2 = Y, where Y= 1

Solution:

Original equation is
X + 2 = Y
Substitute 1 for Y
X + 2 = 1
Subtract 2 from both sides of the equation
(X + 2) - 2 = 1 - 2
Resulting in
X = -1

I don't see a whole lot of English in the above.
15   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 18, 5:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
I don't see a whole lot of English in the above.

What language do you see?
16   Rin   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 18, 6:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Rin says
I don't see a whole lot of English in the above.

What language do you see?


No complete sentences, only fragments, used to harness the X + 2 = Y expression.

And thus, it's not English, it's shorthand for an informal proof.
17   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 18, 7:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No abla? No problem!
18   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 19, 6:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rin says
Onvacation says
Rin says
I don't see a whole lot of English in the above.

What language do you see?


No complete sentences, only fragments

But it is still English . Are you trying to say people don't have to read and write well to do math? Your terse, readable example of a simple algebra problem proves my point.

Students need to be able to share their conclusions. Proper communication should be part of all classes. Teachers that don't reinforce the four skills are doing their students a disfavor.
19   Rin   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 20, 5:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Students need to be able to share their conclusions. Proper communication should be part of all classes.


In a math class, you can remove the verbiage, add one line c) to show the associativity, and present the following:

1) Solve for X in X + 2 = Y, where Y= 1

Solution:

a) X + 2 = Y
b) X + 2 = 1
c) (X + 2) = 1
d) (X + 2) - 2 = 1 - 2
thus,
X = -1

This is how Asian-Americans, for several generations, have arrived from let's say PRC, with limited English skills but have exceeded the math capabilities of regular native born Americans.
20   theoakman   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 20, 6:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Rin says
Onvacation says
Rin says
I don't see a whole lot of English in the above.

What language do you see?


No complete sentences, only fragments

But it is still English . Are you trying to say people don't have to read and write well to do math? Your terse, readable example of a simple algebra problem proves my point.

Students need to be able to share their conclusions. Proper communication should be part of all classes. Teachers that don't reinforce the four skills are doing their students a disfavor.


The ability to properly verbally communicate a solution or construct a verbal argument to a math or physics problem is a skill that is not typically developed by age 16/17, no matter how smart the student is. There are a few exceptions here and there but 98% of the students likely can't do it. In my AP Physics class, the test is now demanding verbal (not mathematical arguments) to solutions. The problem here is, a lot of the students have trouble keeping track of 3 or 4 things verbally and miss a crucial statement needed to appropriately complete their argument. I tell them, it's akin to trying a murder case where your argument is as follows "This man was shot, this guy owns a gun...case closed". They forgot to match the bullet to the gun to complete the argument.

By contrast, when taking the mathematical approach to a physics problem, you by default are forced to complete the full argument. A lot of the problems they are given are exclusively in variables (not numbers) to try to force them to use words. As a result, I show them the process of making your argument using algebra with the variables and then, they look at their steps they ran through with the math to write down their verbal argument.

It is worth noting that some students who were ESL for me who were brilliant Physics students couldn't score more than a 2/5 on the AP Physics exam because of language barrier issues. Trying to put the burden of communication on the science/math teachers is an impossible task unless you somehow double the amount of time they are in that particular class. Their curriculum is usually hard enough to focus on.
21   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 20, 7:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

theoakman says
The ability to properly verbally communicate a solution or construct a verbal argument to a math or physics problem is a skill that is not typically developed by age 16/17, no matter how smart the student is.
theoakman says
I show them the process of making your argument using algebra with the variables and then, they look at their steps they ran through with the math to write down their verbal argument.

And that is how you combine English into a physics class. The physics student MUST understand English in order to even distill the problem down to math.
Thanks for proving my point.
22   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 20, 7:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

theoakman says
It is worth noting that some students who were ESL for me who were brilliant Physics students couldn't score more than a 2/5 on the AP Physics exam because of language barrier issues.

AP is supposed to be college level. Granted that many college level students lack English skills but ESL students MUST learn English to be successful in the English speaking American society.
23   theoakman   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 20, 10:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
theoakman says
It is worth noting that some students who were ESL for me who were brilliant Physics students couldn't score more than a 2/5 on the AP Physics exam because of language barrier issues.

AP is supposed to be college level. Granted that many college level students lack English skills but ESL students MUST learn English to be successful in the English speaking American society.


AP Physics is supposed to test your knowledge in the subject area of Physics, not English. It doesn't do that anymore. That's a problem.
24   theoakman   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 20, 10:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
theoakman says
The ability to properly verbally communicate a solution or construct a verbal argument to a math or physics problem is a skill that is not typically developed by age 16/17, no matter how smart the student is.
theoakman says
I show them the process of making your argument using algebra with the variables and then, they look at their steps they ran through with the math to write down their verbal argument.

And that is how you combine English into a physics class. The physics student MUST understand English in order to even distill the problem down to math.
Thanks for proving my point.


No, it was actually the reverse. The student can't put the answer into English until they do the math to form the argument. But yes, if you can't read the problem properly, you won't be able to do it either. Most of my ESL students can read and understand just fine. But writing an argument is a challenge. However, they can solve harder Physics problems mathematically than 99.9% of the population.
25   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2019 Jan 20, 10:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hooray that practically makes me a Rhodes Scholar.
26   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 20, 12:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

theoakman says
Most of my ESL students

If they can't communicate they should not be in AP. There are way too many IEP's, 504B's, special ed, and social promotions in school. It may just be my white privileged male opinion but if you can't make the grade you should not be in the class. I've seen how public school works and children are rewarded for being disabled.
27   Hugolas_Madurez   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 20, 12:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
theoakman says
Most of my ESL students

If they can't communicate they should not be in AP. There are way too many IEP's, 504B's, special ed, and social promotions in school. It may just be my white privileged male opinion but if you can't make the grade you should not be in the class. I've seen how public school works and children are rewarded for being disabled.


In my son's school they kick out of AP classes anyone who has less than exellent grades in the rest of the disciplines. It's not public school though.

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