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Or he tried and failed because the dog is genetically incapable of being trained to the necessary standard.
Hugh_Mongous says
has been severely tainted by irresponsible uncontrolled breeding aimed at participation in dogfighting - it's a fact.
So any group that's naturally larger is going to be aggressive, violent, and kill? Guessing you stay far away from Nordic countries. Sweden, Denmark, Holland, dangerous places huh? North Korea on the other hand, or China, super safe, look at how small those Asians are!
Family Gives Update on Georgia Boy Mauled by Pit Bulls: ‘He Just Wanted to Say Thank You to Everyone’
1. Be expert dog trainers except there's no governing body to decide who can and who can't own these dogs.
2. Not believe that breeds have been bred for different purposes.
GNL says
1. Be expert dog trainers except there's no governing body to decide who can and who can't own these dogs.
2. Not believe that breeds have been bred for different purposes.
If you want to own a dog capable of killing someone, absolutely on number one. I don't require anyone else to know that I am personally responsible for my actions and mistakes. For those who do, your problems start there.
I don't believe I ever said anything close to number two. The disagreement here is you believe dogs have been bred to kill, I know they have only been trained to do so, regardless of their genetic capabilities.
The problem here isn't conflicting ideas, it's a knowledge gap. And a very common one from what I see in most dog owners.
If you're going to compare dogs and guns, then we need dog registration, classes and rules/laws on where you can take them and how old you must be to own one. Seems fair, right?
But again, there's a big difference between something that is made to kill, a gun, and something that must be trained, or neglected to create the same affect, a dog.
if you see a man with a big dog, or a gun, coming down the street, you assess your risk by the character of the man, not the dog or the gun.
SAN ANTONIO – A “horrific scene” unfolded on the West Side Friday afternoon after a brutal dog attack claimed an elderly man’s life and left three other people injured, officials said.
As of Friday night, San Antonio police confirmed one of the dogs’ owners has been arrested.
Christian Alexander Moreno, 31, is facing a felony charge of attack by dangerous dog causes death and a felony charge of injury to an elderly. ...
When San Antonio fire crews arrived at the scene, they saw an 81-year-old man being dragged on the sidewalk by one of the two dogs involved in the attack.
SAFD Chief Charles Hood said the man was “completely bloody” before crews made their way off of the fire truck.
“This is not something normal for us. We usually don’t show up and have to defend patients from animals or ourselves,” Hood said.
The dogs also confronted firefighters, who had to fight them off with pickaxes and pike poles so they could attend to the victims, Hood said.
One of the fire captains was bit in the leg, but is OK. The dogs also attacked a woman, who was critically injured and another person.
Christian Alexander Moreno, 31, is facing a felony charge of attack by dangerous dog causes death and a felony charge of injury to an elderly. ...
Pit bulls kill 10 or more babies per year in the USA.
How many you think are murdered by their own mothers in abortion clinics? Killed in car accidents? Died after being injected with spike protein poison? From vaccinations? Die from abuse in the foster system? Have been killed in Ukraine or the Middle East? Die in satanic ritual sacrifices by pedophiles who occupy top positions in our government? In every case it's more than 10 a year. Most WAY more.
GNL says
Pit bulls kill 10 or more babies per year in the USA.
How many you think are murdered by their own mothers in abortion clinics? Killed in car accidents? Died after being injected with spike protein poison? From vaccinations? Die from abuse in the foster system? Have been killed in Ukraine or the Middle East? Die in satanic ritual sacrifices by pedophiles who occupy top positions in our government? In every case it's more than 10 a year. Most WAY more.
But let's focus on genetics, because obviously evil is bred, not taught. There are Satan factories where devil worshipers pop out like zits on a 16 year old. I mean that was the case for Dahmer, Bundy, etc right? No abuse in their past when they were children, they were just born evil.
By the way, if you push genetics as the reason for things, you are in the company of the woman who founded Planne...
In the cities some families kept them as pets, while in the countryside they were popular for guard duty, herding and food. They were routinely put down in communist-held areas during the civil war. Like everything else, the cull came in stages after liberation. In Beijing, a swoop cleared thousands of wild dogs from the streets, often with the support of local residents, as policemen armed with wire nooses on bamboo poles rounded them up. Then, by September 1949, dog owners were required to register their pets and keep the animals indoors. A year later the destruction of registered dogs started. Some of the animals were voluntarily turned in, but a few owners refused to surrender them. In a few cases the police were even confronted by angry dog keepers, who sometimes had the crowd on their side. The police then started breaking into houses. Owners came back home to find their doors broken down and their pets gone
Even though her roommates objected to the animal, Esther Cheo kept a small female dog in her dormitory, which she had taken in as a puppy. She shared all her food with it, and the dog was named Hsiao Mee, after the millet they ate. During the cull one of her colleagues who disliked dogs opened the door and let her out. The dog was soon caught and carried away, but, with the help of a high-ranking cadre, Esther managed to locate the compound where the animals were kept. ‘I walked up and down stumbling over dead and dying dogs, shouting out Hsiao Mee’s name, trying to drown out the barks and whines of hundreds of dogs. Eventually I found her. She was in a cage with several others. She jumped up and tried to lick my face, trembling with fear and perhaps excited, hoping that I had come to take her home. I could only sit there and stroke her.’ Esther came back to the compound regularly, even taking a pair of scissors to the dog’s coat in the hope that she would not be slaughtered for her skin. But in the end all she was allowed to do was to feed her pet some scraps of pork from the canteen and look on as the animal shivered and ate from the bowl in her mangled coat. Finally, with the help of a sympathetic cadre, Esther was given a pistol. She took off the safety catch, pressed the barrel against the dog’s ear and blew her head off.
Dogs were denounced as a threat to public hygiene and a symbol of bourgeois decadence at a time of food shortages. Except for those owned by a few privileged diplomats and top officials, they were soon cleared from the cities. But parts of the countryside continued to resist for several years. In Guangdong, efforts to impose a cull backfired in 1952, as angry villagers openly defied the authorities. Killing a landlord was one thing, but taking away a man’s dog was another matter altogether, as they protected homesteads, crops and livestock. In Shandong, where almost every family kept a dog, repeated culls also failed. In the end, however, even the countryside fell into line.
It's clear that we're going to disagree until the end of time on this subject and frankly the knowledge gaps makes any actual discussion on the topic impossible.
It's not impossible
Should I be able to have a mountain lion, bear or tiger as a pet that could potentially get out? I'd imagine that's a resounding no unless you've got enclosures that are secure and inspected.
Ok, if your illegal dog breed kills someone, then you're subject to lethal injection. As well as the person that sold you the dog. You'll also be responsible for health bills and pain and suffering. Can't pay, prison. Deal?
For clarity sake I will spell it out: pitbulls (and similar breeds) are territorial defense weapons and the need for defending your territory has not and will not change, ever.
Defense of what?
WookieMan says
Defense of what?
This attitude is precisely why having a discussion about this is impossible. The entire world isn't like your Disney life. My cousin was raped by three men and they slit her throat, in her own house. Breaking and entering is illegal. Rape is illegal. Murder is illegal. Would a pitbull have been an additional deterrent? You better believe it. Would even a single bark in the night given her enough time to wake up and arm herself? Maybe. We'll never know now. Or in your imagination, these scumbags are carrying around steaks in their back pocket when they're feeling rapey? Shooting the dog itself would make enough noise to alert the neighborhood, or are they carrying shotgun silencers too?
You talk about "tough guy image" and "small dick energy" because you believe your experience and viewpoint is the only correct one. This is ego speaking...
Does this dumb bitch look like she could stop this dog from killing your child?
WookieMan GNL I'm sorry but I'm going to have to back away from this thread for now. It's brought up a lot of bad memories and feelings for me and it's become too personal. You can take it as a sign of cowardice or a failure of my ability to debate as you please but I know my limits. Perhaps I'll be back to this topic in a few months.
Ok, if your illegal dog breed kills someone, then you're subject to lethal injection. As well as the person that sold you the dog. You'll also be responsible for health bills and pain and suffering. Can't pay, prison. Deal?
You're not making a bad point. The problem is responsibility and how far do we take it. Answer Wookieman's question...should I be able to have a self defense lion or not?
GNL says
You're not making a bad point. The problem is responsibility and how far do we take it. Answer Wookieman's question...should I be able to have a self defense lion or not?
No self defense lion, this is totally different from a weapon which can be controlled. That's why even people who mostly succeed at controlling lions do so in cages so only they get maimed if the lion decides otherwise. No man/womyn has enough body strength to control a lion on a leash. Strong/big dogs are pretty much the borderline.
mell says
GNL says
You're not making a bad point. The problem is responsibility and how far do we take it. Answer Wookieman's question...should I be able to have a self defense lion or not?
No self defense lion, this is totally different from a weapon which can be controlled. That's why even people who mostly succeed at controlling lions do so in cages so only they get maimed if the lion decides otherwise. No man/womyn has enough body strength to control a lion on a leash. Strong/big dogs are pretty much the borderline.
But what if I can demonstrate that my self defense lion won't bite my head off when I put my head in it's mouth? Doesn't that prove that MY lion is safe?
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I sick of this bullshit that Pitbulls are great, loving dogs. This fucking bread needs to be exterminated and I'm here to document how many people these little bastards kill and maim.