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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i don’t make enough to eat out, so we just cook.

You'll outlive us all.

Maybe we should make a recipe thread.

We have some decent food places: Excellent Vietnamese, plenty of family Mexican, and 1-off diners. Check out small airports: Pilots gotta eat.
There used to be a decent diner up by Mt. Shasta: Black Bear Diner. The family ran two restaurants a few miles apart. Mom and Pop retired and sold to some douchebags with MBA's. Next thing I know, they have 20 "stores" and a Mission Statement on the Menu. Fuck that shit. Way to ruin a decent slice of Americana.

Robert Sproul says

I saw a report once, commissioned ironically by Viking Kitchens, that showed that the more expensive the kitchen the less it was used.
People with 2, 3, 400,000 dollar kitchens don't ever even go into them.

I reckon people who own these expensive and elaborate kitchens are rich. They would spend their time having fun instead of cooking at home. But if you want healthy food, cooking is the most reliable route. I reckon today's women are not too much into cooking (given their interest in posing unnaturally for pictures for the social media). The obesity we see is about addiction to carbohydrates and sugar, this keeps big health and big food in the green.

I saw some pictures which were taken by a city health department official of a fast food restaurant kitchen. It was beyond disgusting. The most dangerous items are the carbs (dough items) and the cooking oil (no human should put this in their stomach). Our bodies are capable to dealing with a lot of shitty food. I feel bad for the folks who have no choice but to work at these businesses. There are many fast food restaurants where I live. People go through the drive through in luxury cars, found this interesting, maybe wrong priorities.

WookieMan says

The only connecting ingredient in both was tomatoes. Anyone ever have an issue with that? Bad tomatoes?

If tomatoes were cooked, then probably not. It was probably something more potent.

Re: the original thread topic, people go right to 'food poisoning' but Norovirus is the most common cause of this I think. Somebody didn't wash their hands.
This is why it spreads so relentlessly: "You can continue to shed virus in your stool for several weeks (months if you have a chronic illness) after recovery"
Another reason to eat at home where everybody washes their damn hands.

Robert Sproul says

Re: the original thread topic, people go right to 'food poisoning' but Norovirus is the most common cause of this I think. Somebody didn't wash their hands.
This is why it spreads so relentlessly: "You can continue to shed virus in your stool for several weeks (months if you have a chronic illness) after recovery"
Another reason to eat at home where everybody washes their damn hands.

Restaurants are in the business of making money, not hygiene and nutritious food. They should be an occasional option.

WookieMan says

Noticed a change in quality from restaurants after covid. Mind numbing slow service and even restaurants that were good suck. We usually have good food around us.

Anyone notice the same in their area? It’s becoming bad enough that I think I’m done. My Sunday is fucked now.

All the restaurants around here really jacked up prices too, since Bidet was installed in the White House.

The last time I was poisoned at a restaurant it was the dirty plate they served the food on. Always look look how clean the plate is when served if it has any soil or grease on it send it back this also goes for silverware and glasses. Servers sometimes don't even look at the plates. I cut my eating out 90% after moving and the new price adjustment made by government caused inflation it's stupid, fast food now costs almost as much as a sit down diner. I'm out.

beershrine says

fast food now costs almost as much as a sit down diner.

You can get a Chipotle chicken bowl for $8.15.

Also, a lot of restaurants now add a non-optional 5% "living wage" surcharge to the bill on top of the much higher prices lately.

Somehow that's offensive. The cost should be the cost on the menu.

Patrick says

Also, a lot of restaurants now add a non-optional 5% "living wage" surcharge to the bill on top of the much higher prices lately.

Somehow that's offensive. The cost should be the cost on the menu.

It sorta is added to the cost on the menu. I think the "living wage" is to show why.

rocketjoe79 says

reat cooking like a lab in High school: follow the instructions to the letter. After you make a recipe a couple of times, then play around with spices, etc. Now you're a chef!

^^^^ THIS

Cooking isn't that hard; after all, women have been doing it for centuries before modern times.

True story. I was in my sophomore year in college and was completely sick of the dorm food service. There was only one kitchen (sink, stove, oven) on the ground floor of each dorm. I used to cook my own tomato sauce for use in lasagnas, etc. One time a female came by and gave me a left-handed complement, "Oh, are you cooking soup? That smells so good." I said that no, it wasn't soup, but pasta/tomato sauce, to which she replied "That sounds complicated." I said that it wasn't that hard, after all women . . . " I think that bitch got all butt hurt. Then again, I wasn't out to make friends with women at the time, just to fuck them, and she obviously wasn't worth it.

It's scary how many women can't cook. Many have boxed mac n' cheese as their skill limit. Some are not even there.

gabbar says

beershrine says

fast food now costs almost as much as a sit down diner.

You can get a Chipotle chicken bowl for $8.15.

My local diner has a Cheeseburger and Fries, sit down, for $6.99.

It's cheaper than anything on the McD's menu.

It's cheaper to take my kids to the diner than to run through McDonalds.

Ceffer says

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.

I see more rapeseed ("Canola") oil than sunflower oil.

Canola oil is literally poisonous until refined using hexane, and even then still contains significant toxins.

AmericanKulak says

My local diner has a Cheeseburger and Fries, sit down, for $6.99.

It's cheaper than anything on the McD's menu.

I have found that nearly any random place is better, and cheaper than any place that is a national chain.

I totally don't understand why people go to national chains.

AmericanKulak says

It's scary how many women can't cook. Many have boxed mac n' cheese as their skill limit. Some are not even there.

worse is when they brag about not being able to cook. As if its a badge of honor.

Ceffer says

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.
ME AT THE GROCERY STORE READING LABELS

This fool believes what is written on the labels? Even though people realize that they are constantly lied to, its still to hard for them to quit trusting big daddy govt.

I don't get the sudden hate for sunflower oil. Sunflower seeds is good food but oil is suddenly bad? I can see how oils from things people didn't eat historically - palms, canola and such could be problematic, but sunflower?

I always said; "eat at McDonald's" They have to be everything they say they are or they will be sued instantly cause they are watched by lawyers looking for deep pockets. It's ironic to say that but it's true. Nobody is watching the other guys like they watch McDonalds.

AmericanKulak says

My local diner has a Cheeseburger and Fries, sit down, for $6.99.

It's cheaper than anything on the McD's menu.

It's cheaper to take my kids to the diner than to run through McDonalds.

Cheese and carbs is not good for health, it might be to wise to make this a reward/treat for completing a difficult task or a long/tough school homework. And certainly avoid the sodas.

Gary Taubes is a journalist who has researched about diets, he wrote books/articles, check them out....time well spent.

komputodo says

worse is when they brag about not being able to cook. As if its a badge of honor.

True. LOL, they are proud of their lack of skills.

gabbar says

Gary Taubes

I highly recommend his "Good Calories, Bad Calories" and "The Case for Keto." You'd be hard pressed to find books on dietary nutrition as well researched and citation heavy yet as easy to understand as his books. Good journalists still exist.

Discipline is the secret ingredient to better health, wealth and happiness.

Robert Sproul says

Norovirus is the most common cause of this I think. Somebody didn't wash their hands.

Yep.

Next time you are in Atlantic City, try "Burger & Hops" at Hard Rock Casino. The burgers there are excellent.

Patrick says

Ceffer says

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.

I see more rapeseed ("Canola") oil than sunflower oil.

Canola oil is literally poisonous until refined using hexane, and even then still contains significant toxins.

we grow most of our own food for this reason. it’s very time consuming though. in a city it would not be practical. many farmers use chemicals too, because it does make it much easier to farm, but it kills the soil.

DhammaStep says

Good journalists still exist.

Right. And they are usually NOT mainstream journalists.

komputodo says

Ceffer says

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.
ME AT THE GROCERY STORE READING LABELS

This fool believes what is written on the labels? Even though people realize that they are constantly lied to, its still to hard for them to quit trusting big daddy govt.

The joke still works well. We should assume the ingredients are worse than what is on the side of the box, but just the side of the box is enough to make you run away.

Example: Food coloring includes some weird bugs from the Galapagos that's grown in vats. Because it's food coloring, it can just be described as that, as can "Preservatives", without any further detail. The bugs are probably healthier than whatever lab-grown chemical compound is in a "Preservative"

Another fun fact: "Freshies", especially Cool Water, mostly contain a version of the powdered watermelon flavor in instant drinks, or at least the 80s classic formulation did.

WookieMan says

Up in WI now puking and shitting my brains out since 3am central.

Wellness check on Wookie. Did you go to urgent care or emergency room ? I hope you are doing better.

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WookieMan says

Up in WI now puking and shitting my brains out since 3am central.

Wellness check on Wookie. Did you go to urgent care or emergency room ? I hope you are doing better.

It wasn't that severe. Just puking and old faithful shooting out my ass. I'm still feeling like I have the flu. Freezing cold but sweating.

I need to test for covid. I have a couple at home, so I can do a few to see if both verify anything. I've had food poisoning do this to me before where I get flu like symptoms for 3-5 days. Right now I'm at the start of day 3. Lots of fatigue, but really not worried about anything major. I could probably take some pain relievers/fever reducers and make it much better, but I don't take pills.

If I go the urgent care or ER, they're just going to chuck a bunch of big Pharma pills at me. I'm getting about 8 hours of sleep though so that's neat for me.

Robert Sproul says

Norovirus is the most common cause of this I think. Somebody didn't wash their hands.

WookieMan says

puking and old faithful shooting out my ass. I'm still feeling like I have the flu. Freezing cold but sweating.

Norovirus is one reason I am not a fan of going on cruises.

casandra says

I always said; "eat at McDonald's" They have to be everything they say they are

McDonald's has finally mastered hamburger consistency. It doesn't matter if you get one they just made from the back, or one that was sitting in bin for hours and hours waiting to be sold. The burger meat will be cold, the bread will feel stale, and the unpackaged burger in your hand will feel like a solid puck. .
Dry stale and lifeless. It amazes me people actually go there, and even use the kiosk to order.

WookieMan says

It wasn't that severe.

Don’t forget to hydrate.

B.A.C.A.H. says

Norovirus is one reason I am not a fan of going on cruises.

Our family has been lucky. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before one of us do get sick though on a cruise. I'm personally not a huge fan of them because the humans themselves. A lot people that are just flat out rude and think they can do what they want because it's their only vacation in 5 years and they don't know how to control themselves. There's basic decorum and cruises are probably the worst. All inclusive resorts are next.

This was camping though, I have to peg it to the dinner I had 6-7 hours before or I believe so. The only other thing I can think is blue green algae in this lake. It happens every summer and people get sick. We were on the water all day and in it. Usually it doesn't happen until July-August, but it was abnormally warm in May and early June. Either way I'm eating at that place again in the future. We usually go up to those lakes two times a year to camp.

WookieMan says

It wasn't that severe. Just puking and old faithful shooting out my ass. I'm still feeling like I have the flu. Freezing cold but sweating.

I need to test for covid. I have a couple at home, so I can do a few to see if both verify anything. I've had food poisoning do this to me before where I get flu like symptoms for 3-5 days. Right now I'm at the start of day 3. Lots of fatigue, but really not worried about anything major. I could probably take some pain relievers/fever reducers and make it much better, but I don't take pills.

If I go the urgent care or ER, they're just going to chuck a bunch of big Pharma pills at me. I'm getting about 8 hours of sleep though so that's neat for me.

If it's a virus or bacteria, as opposed to a toxin (salmonella or botulism), then ivermectin (0.4 mg/Kg of body weight) along with immodium to curb the ass fountain. Ivermectin is truly the bomb - it fights everything (parasites, viruses, bacteria) and it binds to the spike protein to purge it from your body.