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What's the point of fancy kitchens, cabinets, islands and stoves? What's the point of dining rooms and tables if you don't want to cook? Rich athletes eat home cooked food because its healthy. American kitchens have a very user friendly design. Most people have good kitchens. Cooking food is as easy as it can get because of the gas stoves, cooking utensils, refrigerators, plenty of grocery stores of all types. It takes minimal effort to cook healthy food. Anyone can do it, with even eyes closed.

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.

gabbar says

What's the point of fancy kitchens

I saw a report once, commissioned ironically by Viking Kitchens, that showed that the more expensive the kitchen the less it was used.
People with 2, 3, 400,000 dollar kitchens don't ever even go into them.

Try finding Mayo where one of the top ingredients isn't estrogenic soybean oil.

I'm eating nothing but real food, no preprepped stuff as it's overflowing with seed oils and other garbage.

AmericanKulak says

I'm eating nothing but real food, no preprepped stuff as it's overflowing with seed oils and other garbage.

I agree with you 100%.

A few years back, I heard a nutritionist being interviewed in which she said that almost ALL processed food is bad for you. She said that the food industry has figured out how to make food incredibly cheap, and yet, taste good, by using the right amount of fat, sugar and salt. She strongly encouraged everyone to read the labels. Of course, restaurants are exempt. She said that by using cheap ingredients, they can not only make it taste good but make it very addictive.

WookieMan says

The only connecting ingredient in both was tomatoes. Anyone ever have an issue with that? Bad tomatoes?

Tomatoes used to kill people all the time, but with modern understanding of chemistry, deaths are just an interesting history lesson. And I really do mean interesting!

Tomatoes were often canned in the days before refrigeration. Some kinds aren't acidic enough to kill the botulism bacterium. See the wiki for that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism. That citric acid added in canned products is often labeled as "a preservative" but could be more properly described as "to prevent you from dying."

But some tomatoes have enough acidity to be a danger because of the acid. Check out this jem from Smithsonian Magazine (which has great articles up until about 10 years ago): https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/why-the-tomato-was-feared-in-europe-for-more-than-200-years-863735/ TLDR: acid from tomatoes sitting for a while on the then-popular pewter plates (pewter = lead + tin) would leach the lead, which would then be eaten along with the fruit — not good!

Tomatoes are usualy

RayAmerica says

One more thing that is somewhat related; I had a friend that worked in a kitchen at a restaurant when he was young. He told me, with a lot of emotion; "Don't ever eat at a restaurant where you don't see the food being prepared in front of you. You would never believe what I saw some of these guys do to food before it was sent out." He told me, I won't repeat it.

When you go out to eat, be polite to the staff. I'm warning you.

If the food is bad, you CAN complain, but pay for it, and offer constructive criticism, don't show any anger, don't send it back. Eat it, and if you complain, never come back, unless you are very nice about offering constructive criticism. Leave a tip. Do not piss off anybody that serves you food, ever.

Your steak overdone? You can mention it, but don't send it back and eat what you get. IF you return, explain what happened last time, tell them it was good enough anyhow, but please make it a bit rarer this time.

The only time when you can blow up, is if you NEVER return.

i don’t make enough to eat out, so we just cook. and cook better than any place nearby. where i live even if you wanted to go out, there’s nothing. all we got is fast food chain junk… like 20 of them from subway to carl’s jr. nothing but shitty chains. so i bbq and smoke meat on weekends.

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i don’t make enough to eat out, so we just cook.

You'll outlive us all.

Maybe we should make a recipe thread.

We have some decent food places: Excellent Vietnamese, plenty of family Mexican, and 1-off diners. Check out small airports: Pilots gotta eat.
There used to be a decent diner up by Mt. Shasta: Black Bear Diner. The family ran two restaurants a few miles apart. Mom and Pop retired and sold to some douchebags with MBA's. Next thing I know, they have 20 "stores" and a Mission Statement on the Menu. Fuck that shit. Way to ruin a decent slice of Americana.

Robert Sproul says

I saw a report once, commissioned ironically by Viking Kitchens, that showed that the more expensive the kitchen the less it was used.
People with 2, 3, 400,000 dollar kitchens don't ever even go into them.

I reckon people who own these expensive and elaborate kitchens are rich. They would spend their time having fun instead of cooking at home. But if you want healthy food, cooking is the most reliable route. I reckon today's women are not too much into cooking (given their interest in posing unnaturally for pictures for the social media). The obesity we see is about addiction to carbohydrates and sugar, this keeps big health and big food in the green.

I saw some pictures which were taken by a city health department official of a fast food restaurant kitchen. It was beyond disgusting. The most dangerous items are the carbs (dough items) and the cooking oil (no human should put this in their stomach). Our bodies are capable to dealing with a lot of shitty food. I feel bad for the folks who have no choice but to work at these businesses. There are many fast food restaurants where I live. People go through the drive through in luxury cars, found this interesting, maybe wrong priorities.

WookieMan says

The only connecting ingredient in both was tomatoes. Anyone ever have an issue with that? Bad tomatoes?

If tomatoes were cooked, then probably not. It was probably something more potent.

Re: the original thread topic, people go right to 'food poisoning' but Norovirus is the most common cause of this I think. Somebody didn't wash their hands.
This is why it spreads so relentlessly: "You can continue to shed virus in your stool for several weeks (months if you have a chronic illness) after recovery"
Another reason to eat at home where everybody washes their damn hands.

Robert Sproul says

Re: the original thread topic, people go right to 'food poisoning' but Norovirus is the most common cause of this I think. Somebody didn't wash their hands.
This is why it spreads so relentlessly: "You can continue to shed virus in your stool for several weeks (months if you have a chronic illness) after recovery"
Another reason to eat at home where everybody washes their damn hands.

Restaurants are in the business of making money, not hygiene and nutritious food. They should be an occasional option.

WookieMan says

Noticed a change in quality from restaurants after covid. Mind numbing slow service and even restaurants that were good suck. We usually have good food around us.

Anyone notice the same in their area? It’s becoming bad enough that I think I’m done. My Sunday is fucked now.

All the restaurants around here really jacked up prices too, since Bidet was installed in the White House.

The last time I was poisoned at a restaurant it was the dirty plate they served the food on. Always look look how clean the plate is when served if it has any soil or grease on it send it back this also goes for silverware and glasses. Servers sometimes don't even look at the plates. I cut my eating out 90% after moving and the new price adjustment made by government caused inflation it's stupid, fast food now costs almost as much as a sit down diner. I'm out.

beershrine says

fast food now costs almost as much as a sit down diner.

You can get a Chipotle chicken bowl for $8.15.

Also, a lot of restaurants now add a non-optional 5% "living wage" surcharge to the bill on top of the much higher prices lately.

Somehow that's offensive. The cost should be the cost on the menu.

Patrick says

Also, a lot of restaurants now add a non-optional 5% "living wage" surcharge to the bill on top of the much higher prices lately.

Somehow that's offensive. The cost should be the cost on the menu.

It sorta is added to the cost on the menu. I think the "living wage" is to show why.

rocketjoe79 says

reat cooking like a lab in High school: follow the instructions to the letter. After you make a recipe a couple of times, then play around with spices, etc. Now you're a chef!

^^^^ THIS

Cooking isn't that hard; after all, women have been doing it for centuries before modern times.

True story. I was in my sophomore year in college and was completely sick of the dorm food service. There was only one kitchen (sink, stove, oven) on the ground floor of each dorm. I used to cook my own tomato sauce for use in lasagnas, etc. One time a female came by and gave me a left-handed complement, "Oh, are you cooking soup? That smells so good." I said that no, it wasn't soup, but pasta/tomato sauce, to which she replied "That sounds complicated." I said that it wasn't that hard, after all women . . . " I think that bitch got all butt hurt. Then again, I wasn't out to make friends with women at the time, just to fuck them, and she obviously wasn't worth it.

It's scary how many women can't cook. Many have boxed mac n' cheese as their skill limit. Some are not even there.

gabbar says

beershrine says

fast food now costs almost as much as a sit down diner.

You can get a Chipotle chicken bowl for $8.15.

My local diner has a Cheeseburger and Fries, sit down, for $6.99.

It's cheaper than anything on the McD's menu.

It's cheaper to take my kids to the diner than to run through McDonalds.

Ceffer says

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.

I see more rapeseed ("Canola") oil than sunflower oil.

Canola oil is literally poisonous until refined using hexane, and even then still contains significant toxins.

AmericanKulak says

My local diner has a Cheeseburger and Fries, sit down, for $6.99.

It's cheaper than anything on the McD's menu.

I have found that nearly any random place is better, and cheaper than any place that is a national chain.

I totally don't understand why people go to national chains.

AmericanKulak says

It's scary how many women can't cook. Many have boxed mac n' cheese as their skill limit. Some are not even there.

worse is when they brag about not being able to cook. As if its a badge of honor.

Ceffer says

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.
ME AT THE GROCERY STORE READING LABELS

This fool believes what is written on the labels? Even though people realize that they are constantly lied to, its still to hard for them to quit trusting big daddy govt.

I don't get the sudden hate for sunflower oil. Sunflower seeds is good food but oil is suddenly bad? I can see how oils from things people didn't eat historically - palms, canola and such could be problematic, but sunflower?

I always said; "eat at McDonald's" They have to be everything they say they are or they will be sued instantly cause they are watched by lawyers looking for deep pockets. It's ironic to say that but it's true. Nobody is watching the other guys like they watch McDonalds.

AmericanKulak says

My local diner has a Cheeseburger and Fries, sit down, for $6.99.

It's cheaper than anything on the McD's menu.

It's cheaper to take my kids to the diner than to run through McDonalds.

Cheese and carbs is not good for health, it might be to wise to make this a reward/treat for completing a difficult task or a long/tough school homework. And certainly avoid the sodas.

Gary Taubes is a journalist who has researched about diets, he wrote books/articles, check them out....time well spent.

komputodo says

worse is when they brag about not being able to cook. As if its a badge of honor.

True. LOL, they are proud of their lack of skills.

gabbar says

Gary Taubes

I highly recommend his "Good Calories, Bad Calories" and "The Case for Keto." You'd be hard pressed to find books on dietary nutrition as well researched and citation heavy yet as easy to understand as his books. Good journalists still exist.

Discipline is the secret ingredient to better health, wealth and happiness.

Robert Sproul says

Norovirus is the most common cause of this I think. Somebody didn't wash their hands.

Yep.

Next time you are in Atlantic City, try "Burger & Hops" at Hard Rock Casino. The burgers there are excellent.

Patrick says

Ceffer says

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.

I see more rapeseed ("Canola") oil than sunflower oil.

Canola oil is literally poisonous until refined using hexane, and even then still contains significant toxins.

we grow most of our own food for this reason. it’s very time consuming though. in a city it would not be practical. many farmers use chemicals too, because it does make it much easier to farm, but it kills the soil.

DhammaStep says

Good journalists still exist.

Right. And they are usually NOT mainstream journalists.

komputodo says

Ceffer says

The invisible hands poisoning us with vaccines don't plan to poison us with our air, food and water supplies? Good to know they have limits.
ME AT THE GROCERY STORE READING LABELS

This fool believes what is written on the labels? Even though people realize that they are constantly lied to, its still to hard for them to quit trusting big daddy govt.

The joke still works well. We should assume the ingredients are worse than what is on the side of the box, but just the side of the box is enough to make you run away.

Example: Food coloring includes some weird bugs from the Galapagos that's grown in vats. Because it's food coloring, it can just be described as that, as can "Preservatives", without any further detail. The bugs are probably healthier than whatever lab-grown chemical compound is in a "Preservative"

Another fun fact: "Freshies", especially Cool Water, mostly contain a version of the powdered watermelon flavor in instant drinks, or at least the 80s classic formulation did.