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can renters SUE the govt?


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2010 Aug 12, 3:26pm   2,473 views  12 comments

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For never-ending programs to 'job less home owners'... how about 'job less renters' ?I am sure some class-action-lawyer can find the logic on 'discriminating based on type of dwelling' .

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1   LAO   2010 Aug 12, 4:26pm  

Interesting idea but its not discrimination in this country unless based on gender, race/ethnicity if your a minority, or u have a physical or mental handicap. I guess renters could be considered a minority.... But thats a long shot and a lawyer would probably laugh at you.

2   tatupu70   2010 Aug 13, 4:13am  

John Bailo says

In the same way, you cannot actively discriminate between owners and renters.

It's not discrimination. Any renter can become an owner.

3   tatupu70   2010 Aug 13, 4:29am  

John Bailo says

tatupu70 says


It’s not discrimination. Any renter can become an owner.

So, you’re saying a gay person should become straight in order to get married?

Huh? No--I'm saying a gay person can't become straight. That's why they have a discrimination case.

But really--can't you see how ridiculous this idea is? Could I sue the government if I didn't have kids? Taxpayers with kids get a break, after all...

4   permanent_marker   2010 Aug 13, 4:38am  

this is not about protesting tax breaks like morgage interest rates deduction ..

This is about,
- oh you lost your job
- here is more money to cover mortgage payment
- in addition to unemployment insurance

how about renters get a break,
- here is additional money for your rent, b/c you lost your job

I know, crazy.. but why not :-)

5   TType85   2010 Aug 13, 6:17am  

Easy answer. Most renters are not voters...

6   HeadSet   2010 Aug 13, 6:37am  

Another easy answer. The point is to bail out the banks by preventing another forclosure.

7   simchaland   2010 Aug 13, 9:01am  

OCExRenter says

Easy answer. Most renters are not voters…

HeadSet says

Another easy answer. The point is to bail out the banks by preventing another forclosure.

Interesting. I rent and I've voted in every election since I've been eligible to vote. And I know others in my building who are extremely politically active.

In our Aristocratic Oligarchy money, and only money, talks. If you have an asset you get welfare, like the corporations get. If you're dirt poor or have no assets you're considered a deadbeat and we make it extremely difficult for you to get any benefits.

8   TType85   2010 Aug 13, 9:31am  

simchaland says

Interesting. I rent and I’ve voted in every election since I’ve been eligible to vote. And I know others in my building who are extremely politically active.
In our Aristocratic Oligarchy money, and only money, talks. If you have an asset you get welfare, like the corporations get. If you’re dirt poor or have no assets you’re considered a deadbeat and we make it extremely difficult for you to get any benefits.

Unfortunatly you are in the minority on the voting. When I was in apartments, most people in my building didn't care about voting more about the next party.

You want to see a voting turn out? Put a proposition out to end Prop 13.

9   simchaland   2010 Aug 13, 9:39am  

OCExRenter says

simchaland says


Interesting. I rent and I’ve voted in every election since I’ve been eligible to vote. And I know others in my building who are extremely politically active.
In our Aristocratic Oligarchy money, and only money, talks. If you have an asset you get welfare, like the corporations get. If you’re dirt poor or have no assets you’re considered a deadbeat and we make it extremely difficult for you to get any benefits.

Unfortunatly you are in the minority on the voting. When I was in apartments, most people in my building didn’t care about voting more about the next party.
You want to see a voting turn out? Put a proposition out to end Prop 13.

Do you want to see renters turn out in record numbers? When Oakland voters had to vote on a proposition to end rent control in Oakland, there were huge numbers of renters who voted in order to defeat the proposition. In my building the landlord put signs all around the place showing support for the proposition. I don't know of any tenant in our building who voted for it. The proposition was defeated by huge numbers.

I think it depends on the community. Here in Oakland and Berkeley and most likely San Francisco, renting is more the norm than the exception for many. The typical renter here is a family with children that has parents who work. These people vote. In suburban complexes where there is a high proportion of hedonistic single young people, I'm sure that there is great apathy toward participation in our governmental process.

So, in major metropolitain areas where renting is more the norm than owning, you will find that most renters vote.

10   tatupu70   2010 Aug 13, 10:24pm  

John Bailo says

It’s discriminatory and unconstitutional. I think a class action suit would stand up in court.

Quite simply--it is not discrimination. Renters are not a protected class. You may not like it--so vote in Congressmen who agree with you and they can change the laws.

Are food stamps discrimination against rich people? Is unemployment insurance discriminatory against working folks?

11   LAO   2010 Aug 17, 9:59am  

OCExRenter says

Unfortunatly you are in the minority on the voting. When I was in apartments, most people in my building didn’t care about voting more about the next party.

You want to see a voting turn out? Put a proposition out to end Prop 13.

That could be said about anyone under 25 years old... (I'm assuming that's when you last rented)... That's not a renter stigma.. That's a age-stigma.

Once people get married and settle down.. (be them renters or homeowners). Voting and politics become more important..

12   Cautious1   2010 Aug 18, 6:55am  

cristina69 is a bot. Hope that doesn't cross Patrick's "Be Polite" rule.

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