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Peter Schiff Was Right Part Deux: The Taper Edition


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2013 Sep 25, 12:49pm   38,822 views  155 comments

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-25/peter-schiff-was-right-part-deux-%E2%80%9Ctaper%E2%80%9D-edition

It consists of various clips of Mr. Schiff being prescient about the financial condition of the U.S., as talking heads on various financial shows mock him and laugh in his face. Well, the Peter Schiff Was Right Video Part Deux is now out and I expect this one to go viral as well.

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134   upisdown   2013 Sep 29, 10:54pm  

Call it Crazy says

upisdown
says



And now you deleted your post, how pathetic.


upisdown
says



And apparently delete any embarrassing posts too. Loser.


I haven't deleted ANY posts...


Just what type of medication are you on?????

I responded to Bob's post, which made that response post #197, and AFTER I pointed out that you responded instead of him, the next 2 posts suddenly are missing, including your's. I know, freaky, huh. LOL.

Now my former post #197 is now #192, and your post responding(to me, of which was me responding to Bob)is back.

F-n surreal, isn't it.

135   freak80   2013 Sep 30, 2:57am  

Seems like the Schiffbots are missing the forest for the trees. They're nitpicking on how many homes in Bobsville, NJ use propane vs. natural gas, the exact price of copper, and how the price of their favorite cut of steak costs a lot more.

Overall, inflation isn't too bad.

136   Bubbabeefcake   2013 Sep 30, 3:01am  

egads101 says

Now, if you are going to talk about his advice being better than mine, you have to answer that one single line. Or really, admit you are too stupid to do so, and just shut up on here.

Bah ha ha ha! ... the "aLMIGHTY aNAL oRIFICE" has spoken!

137   StillLooking   2013 Sep 30, 5:10am  

Before 2004 the average price of copper must have been well under a dollar.

Copper is showing raging inflation.

And you claimed that copper was proving your point about low inflation

138   gsr   2013 Sep 30, 5:35am  

freak80 says

Seems like the Schiffbots are missing the forest for the trees. They're nitpicking on how many homes in Bobsville, NJ use propane vs. natural gas, the exact price of copper, and how the price of their favorite cut of steak costs a lot more.

Overall, inflation isn't too bad.

As long as you exclude housing, food, gas etc. Of course, we are supposed to love housing inflation.

139   gsr   2013 Sep 30, 5:45am  

gsr says

Overall, inflation isn't too bad.

Apart from housing, there is also another effect you do not realize. The inflation is being exported to emerging markets, as they also printed money to keep the dollar high in value. They got bitten lately. In addition, the country has the largest military strength. So it has not come to the point where foreigners lose faith in USD more than they lose faith in their own currencies.

Without a dollar crisis, the hyperinflation won't happen. It will be rather a slow recessionary effect on common people for a long time before actual currency crisis happens.

140   smaulgld   2013 Sep 30, 5:50am  

gsr says

gsr says

Overall, inflation isn't too bad.

Apart from housing, there is also another effect you do not realize. The inflation is being exported to emerging markets, as they also printed money to keep the dollar high in value. They got bitten lately. In addition, the country has the largest military strength. So it has not come to the point where foreigners lose faith in USD more than they lose faith in their own currencies.

Without a dollar crisis, the hyperinflation won't happen. It will be rather a slow recessionary effect on common people for a long time before actual currency crisis happens.

Food for thought on that
http://smaulgld.com/why-the-end-of-quantitative-easing-may-be-bad-for-the-dollar/

141   Bubbabeefcake   2013 Sep 30, 6:06am  

egads101 says

Bubbabear says

egads101 says

Now, if you are going to talk about his advice being better than mine, you have to answer that one single line. Or really, admit you are too stupid to do so, and just shut up on here.

Bah ha ha ha! ... the "aLMIGHTY aNAL oRIFICE" has spoken!

ok, strike 3. you are just a stupid F**K. sucks to be you, on this blog for 2 years dreaming house prices would crash further!

Ok, strike 3 ... Bah ha ha ha! ... the "aLMIGHTY aNAL oRIFICE" has spoken prematurely!

142   freak80   2013 Sep 30, 6:25am  

A loaf of bread is still about $2.50. A gallon of milk is still about $3. Nationally, house prices have returned to long-term historic averages.

The big run-up in oil prices happened long before QE. A few million new drivers in China combined with depleting conventional oil reserves will do that.

The health care and college rackets are killing us, but that's not the fault of the fed. College is the new high school, since anyone can get a college degree nowadays. Now you need a college degree to get a low-wage shit-job, when previously a high school diploma would do. It's an "arms race" to get the best credentials even if said credentials are irrelevant to the job.

143   StillLooking   2013 Sep 30, 6:32am  

freak80 says

A loaf of bread is still about $2.50. A gallon of milk is still about $3. Nationally, house prices have returned to long-term historic averages.

The big run-up in oil prices happened long before QE. A few million new drivers in China combined with depleting conventional oil reserves will do that.

The health care and college rackets are killing us, but that's not the fault of the fed. College is the new high school, since anyone can get a college degree nowadays. Now you need a college degree to get a low-wage shit-job, when previously a high school diploma would do. It's an "arms race" to get the best credentials even if said credentials are irrelevant to the job.

Organic milk is $6 a gallon. Industrial food that kills is much cheaper than good healthy wholesome food.

Milk is one item where organic is well worth it.

144   mell   2013 Sep 30, 6:39am  

The EPI is a much better calculator for inflation of everyday items and not surprisingly yields significantly higher inflation:

https://www.aier.org/article/7557-epi-reflects-basic-economic-change

145   freak80   2013 Sep 30, 6:49am  

Remember, a price increase could from the fundamentals.

Over the last 15 years, we decided to let the third world compete for the same limited planetary resources. Thank you, globalization. When you've got millions of new people entering the middle class worldwide, that puts severe strain on resources like oil and metals.

In a global economy, everybody makes Bangladesh wages. But that's the fault of globalization, not the fed.

146   StillLooking   2013 Sep 30, 7:31am  

Copper is showing raging inflation no matter how you slice it. You claimed the exact opposite.

And in the 1990s inflation was low.

147   gsr   2013 Sep 30, 10:00am  

freak80 says

A loaf of bread is still about $2.50. A gallon of milk is still about $3. Nationally, house prices have returned to long-term historic averages.

The big run-up in oil prices happened long before QE. A few million new drivers in China combined with depleting conventional oil reserves will do that.

The health care and college rackets are killing us, but that's not the fault of the fed. College is the new high school, since anyone can get a college degree nowadays.

That's not true. We have been living on cheap money (for loan) for decades. The QE is just the same policy on steroid.

And when you throw cheap money around, you don't know where they will go. The money will go somewhere, possibly not where you like. The college racket also has a large appetite for cheap money, who does not?

In short, anything that can be obtained with a loan has been getting expensive due to high bidding. This includes loans to regular consumers as well as wall streets.

148   smaulgld   2013 Sep 30, 10:01am  

Schiff has taken to promoting silver

Did he cause a Schiff surge in September?
/?p=1230059

149   gsr   2013 Sep 30, 10:09am  

freak80 says

Remember, a price increase could from the fundamentals.

Over the last 15 years, we decided to let the third world compete for the same limited planetary resources. Thank you, globalization. When you've got millions of new people entering the middle class worldwide, that puts severe strain on resources like oil and metals.

In a global economy, everybody makes Bangladesh wages. But that's the fault of globalization, not the fed.

This is such a baloney. You really don't understand the connection between producer and consumer. You need both. In order for you to consume, someone has to produce at the price that you can consume.
And how do you consume when you don't have enough earning? You have cheap credit. Just put on a few 10000 dollars on your credit card and things will be all right. You just need to keep calling your credit card company to raise your credit ceiling.

If you think globalization is the source of the problem, why don't you go live in an island alone with no connection with anyone else, and see how you can live a lifestyle without anyone else around? That should be a cure for your problem.

You just print money on your own printing press, and use it buy stuff, where there is no other consumer except yourself?
Wait, someone has to make the stuff for you that you can buy. But no one will be there. So you can make your own stuff, give yourself a nice million dollar salary with your own money.

150   gsr   2013 Sep 30, 10:11am  

egads101 says

StillLooking says

Organic milk is $6 a gallon. Industrial food that kills is much cheaper than good healthy wholesome food.

Milk is one item where organic is well worth it.

there is no reason whatsoever for an adult to drink milk, of ANY form.

There is no reason for you to post. Heck, I have no reason to drink scotch, of ANY form, but I still do because I like doing so. F U if you don't like it.

151   freak80   2013 Sep 30, 10:17am  

Here's an index of major commodities from www.indexmundi.com

152   gsr   2013 Sep 30, 10:36am  

freak80 says

Here's an index of major commodities from www.indexmundi.com

Notice the spikes, where cheap money jacked up the prices of commodities, and then fell apart due to lack of organic demand. The same thing happens for all other asset classes as well. That includes your real estate.

In that one respect, I agree that real inflation won't happen until the money really trickles down to the poor. There will be speculative bubbles followed by crashes. That's why pumping money through QE or other means do nothing more than creating these bubbles and crashes, as it mostly stays at the top. It also creates the slow inflationary effect that mostly hurts the poor.

153   Bubbabeefcake   2013 Sep 30, 10:57am  

egads101 says

StillLooking says

Organic milk is $6 a gallon. Industrial food that kills is much cheaper than good healthy wholesome food.

Milk is one item where organic is well worth it.

there is no reason whatsoever for an adult to drink milk, of ANY form.

The Amazing Health Benefits of Raw Milk

http://www.naturalnews.com/023083_milk_raw_benefits.html

...the Bewildered Bubbabear has spoken !

154   indigenous   2013 Sep 30, 11:32am  

egads101 says

Ridiculous. Scotch is very important for health... Milk is terrible for you, and doesn't even mix with scotch!

That is the first time you have said something that makes sense.

155   freak80   2013 Sep 30, 12:09pm  

gsr says

Notice the spikes, where cheap money jacked up the prices of commodities, and then fell apart due to lack of organic demand. The same thing happens for all other asset classes as well. That includes your real estate.

Here's the 10-year treasury rate from www.multpl.com

Your cheap money thesis appears correct.

Are people "yield chasing" by speculating since interest rates are so low? And is that speculation causing a "serial-bubble" economy? I've heard that theory before, and it does seem convincing...to me at least.

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