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37929   New Renter   2013 Oct 1, 2:43pm  

Bellingham Bill says

yes, but it will take the events of 2000-2006 to pass out of living memory for the same mistakes to be made again.

No it won't.

37930   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 1, 4:50pm  

freak80 says

Of course the DNC is broke.

Billionaires know which party best represents their interests. Hint: it's not the DNC.

count the number of Billionaires at this table with Obama...i wonder how the ones in NYC and
LA/Hollywood looked like...

http://kellblog.com/2011/02/19/seating-chart-for-president-obamas-silicon-valley-tech-titans-dinner/

37931   thomaswong.1986   2013 Oct 1, 4:53pm  

Blurtman says

Hey bro,

Mish poached your post:

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2013/10/dnc-is-broke-good-news-or-bad.html

some say there is another word for it.. "Going Viral"

37932   Bigsby   2013 Oct 1, 8:53pm  

Call it Crazy says

Bigsby says

You've been shown to have been consistently wrong. Clearly your ego can't allow you to admit that.

Is that why you have 12 people ignoring YOU??

Perhaps you should ask Daryl and his many alter egos that question.

37933   HydroCabron   2013 Oct 1, 11:08pm  

I would go to Gitmo to fight the sale of the Lincoln Bedroom to Marxist donors, and the defilement of the White House Travel Office.

37934   marcus   2013 Oct 1, 11:11pm  

When you think about it, it strange. In a way those radical republicans are the ultimate true patriots.

They are willing to commit political suicide, to save us from the evil Obamacare.

If they were selfish, they would just let Obamacare roll out, and then later the high cost, and the death panels and the total obliteration of America's AWESOME health care as we know it would ensure their political dominance for decades.

But instead they are willing to forgo having everyone find out how bad Obamacare is, because they are true patriots that are only in public service to help America.

37935   Tenpoundbass   2013 Oct 1, 11:50pm  

Oh Really!?

Can I rent your time machine?

37936   marcus   2013 Oct 2, 12:00am  

Boehner: "This is part of a larger pattern: the president's scorched-Earth policy of refusing to negotiate in (a) bipartisan way on his health care law, current government funding or the debt limit."

The amazing thing is that all the dimbulbs will believe that !

The republicans say we'll blow up the government if we don't get our demands. And then when it happens, "it's the democrats fault for not being willing to negotiate."

37937   FunTime   2013 Oct 2, 12:33am  

There's a lot of talk of "right" and "wrong." Some seem to think being right for a year or two is being "right." Good luck to you.

37938   indigenous   2013 Oct 2, 12:45am  

What does Nate Silvers say?

37939   Tenpoundbass   2013 Oct 2, 12:48am  

Well while we're NOT over looking polls...

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., is the most unpopular of the top four Democratic and Republican leaders in Congress, according to a Gallup poll that suggests the American people might support them more if they got along better.

Just 33 percent of voters approve of Reid's performance, compared with 53 percent of Gallup survey respondents who disapprove, which amounts to a net approval rating of -20. House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, fares only slightly better; his 37/54 percent favorable/unfavorable numbers give him a net rating of -17.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., both have a net approval rating of -12. McConnell's approval rating (35 percent) is lower than Pelosi's (39 percent), but Pelosi's disapproval rating (51 percent) comes in higher than McConnell's (47 percent).

Gallup reported Monday that, heading into a congressional debate about defunding Obamacare or shutting down the government, 53 percent of Americans polled support compromise, compared to 25 percent who say its "more important [for legislators] to stick to their principles."

37940   Analyzer   2013 Oct 2, 1:32am  

Maybe Jesse Ventura is right on some things, the government is controlled by a 2 party system that can stifle attempts for alternate parties to succeed. He called them gangs that are fueled mainly by bribery..........at this point I cannot disagree with this.

37941   Bigsby   2013 Oct 2, 1:53am  

Call it Crazy says

Bigsby says

Call it Crazy says

Bigsby says

You've been shown to have been consistently wrong. Clearly your ego can't allow you to admit that.

Is that why you have 12 people ignoring YOU??

Perhaps you should ask Daryl and his many alter egos that question.

What does Daryl have to do with anything, We were referring to YOU and YOUR fans!!

Daryl was a massive troll with multiple (and I mean multiple) accounts. I got into (one of many) arguments with him about a year and half ago. On that one day, my ignore number went from zero to twelve and Daryl made a great deal of noise about it - it was pretty obvious he was the one doing all or most of the ignoring using his accounts. That is what it has to do with.

37942   FortWayne   2013 Oct 2, 2:25am  

Everything is negotiable.

And that's not new, our rights have been negotiable for quite some time... especially where NSA is concerned. So if rights are negotiable, laws are negotiable too.

37943   mell   2013 Oct 2, 2:28am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

Wow, what assholes. Housing valuations have never ever fallen. Everyone knows that.

Right on, everybody needs an empire fortress from which they can fire their mounted gatling guns at starving neo-nazis!

37944   FunTime   2013 Oct 2, 2:39am  

egads101 says

meanwhile some seem to think being wrong for 2 or 3 years is still right!

Yeah, there does seem to be some of that. I don't know why people insist on making predictions about a certain year.

I just won't buy a house where I live unless the cost becomes a much smaller portion of what I make. Over 30 years, I'm convinced I'll be way ahead of the "leveraged."

37945   FortWayne   2013 Oct 2, 2:39am  

egads101 says

Well, then the dems should also refuse to raise the debt ceiling until:

1. gay marriage is legal everywhere.

2. pot is legal

3. amnesty for the dreamers (illegals brought here as children, who go to college)

etc.

why the F not? if you repub a holes can threaten the economy if they don't get what they want, why not the dems, who control the senate and the presidency? They should have twice the right to play this way!

Dems are trying very hard to raise debt ceiling, I don't think they will ever oppose an idea of more spending. And I don't think they care much for pot or gays either... that's just a few weirdos who are into homosexuality in the bay area.

37946   tatupu70   2013 Oct 2, 2:41am  

FortWayne says

Dems are trying very hard to raise debt ceiling, I don't think they will ever oppose an idea of more spending

Increasing the debt ceiling does causes exactly ZERO new spending to occur.

37947   FortWayne   2013 Oct 2, 2:43am  

tatupu70 says

FortWayne says

Dems are trying very hard to raise debt ceiling, I don't think they will ever oppose an idea of more spending

Increasing the debt ceiling does causes exactly ZERO new spending to occur.

No, it allows government to spend us into debt slavery. If I give you a credit card and let you max it ... you'll max it out. And if I give you an increase in spending, you'll max that out too. It's common sense.

37948   bdrasin   2013 Oct 2, 2:44am  

FortWayne says

Everything is negotiable.

And that's not new, our rights have been negotiable for quite some time... especially where NSA is concerned. So if rights are negotiable, laws are negotiable too.

Sure, but if you want the other side to give up a law they sincerely believe is very important, indeed necessary; a law fought they for against long odds, and frankly paid a large price in political capitol to get enacted, then you'd better have something VERY LARGE to offer in return. I don't know what that would be...a return to Eisenhower tax rates? It would have to be HUGE. Saying that you won't burn down the whole Government for one year, after which you will extort something else, is not offering anything in return.

What is our present condition? We have just carried an election on principles fairly stated to the people. Now we are told in advance, the government shall be broken up, unless we surrender to those we have beaten, before we take the offices. In this they are either attempting to play upon us, or they are in dead earnest. Either way, if we surrender, it is the end of us, and of the government. They will repeat the experiment upon us ad libitum.
-Abraham Lincoln, 1861

37949   tatupu70   2013 Oct 2, 2:49am  

FortWayne says

No, it allows government to spend us into debt slavery. If I give you a credit card and let you max it ... you'll max it out

I have a credit card and I never max it out.

If you want to stop spending--put forth a budget with less spending.

37950   FunTime   2013 Oct 2, 2:51am  

I figure a lot of people have had a chance to cash-out on their house with this recent jump in prices coming so close to the last jump. That has shaken out a lot of activity. Now people will settle-in to their houses and stay put. So prices will steady for a few years.

Or is there always a group waiting to cash out? The investors will cash-out in force at some point. They seem to just move all over any market they involve.

37951   FortWayne   2013 Oct 2, 2:52am  

tatupu70 says

FortWayne says

No, it allows government to spend us into debt slavery. If I give you a credit card and let you max it ... you'll max it out

I have a credit card and I never max it out.

If you want to stop spending--put forth a budget with less spending.

That's because you actually have to pay it back, politicians are spending our money so they don't have to care... they don't get to pay it back. They just get to enjoy spending it.

37952   upisdown   2013 Oct 2, 2:54am  

bdrasin says

Saying that you won't burn down the whole Government for one year, after which
you will extort something else, is not offering anything in return.

He he, but you must understand that the crazies that have managed to somehow shut down the government think that a temper tantrum is an effective and rational form of legislating. If you give in to their childish ways, they'll revert back to them again and again to satisfy their wants/needs, just like a baby that cries until it is picked up by it's mother.

The teabag morons' cause isn't noble, it's self centered as is everything that those mopes do. A lot of those teabag idiots are up for election in the next general election, and if the recent past elections are any indication of their future, they know that they have to amp up the hysteria, or they're back to irrelevant status, with no political future whatsoever.

37953   tatupu70   2013 Oct 2, 2:56am  

FortWayne says

That's because you actually have to pay it back, politicians are spending our money so they don't have to care... they don't get to pay it back. They just get to enjoy spending it.

So, according to your analogy, the solution is not to put restrictions on credit card use. Your solution is to piss on the bill when it comes.

37954   exfatguy   2013 Oct 2, 2:59am  

If you pay cash for a house, maybe all you care about is monthly positive cash flow with an asset you can sell years later for more than you paid.

It's like stocks, but with much higher dividends and an almost guarantee to be able to sell at a profit.

Whereas a goofball CEO and clowny board of directors can kill a company, it's very hard to kill a house. Even if the tenants burn it down you can rebuild with insurance money and make it even more valuable.

It's different this time.

37955   Analyzer   2013 Oct 2, 2:59am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

Wow, what assholes. Housing valuations have never ever fallen. Everyone knows that.

Can we turn our focus back to Benghazi?

37956   freak80   2013 Oct 2, 3:05am  

tatupu70 says

put forth a budget with less spending.

Ha ha ha! Good one!

Neither party will do that.

37957   HEY YOU   2013 Oct 2, 3:05am  

exfatguy says:"... burn it down you can rebuild with insurance money and make it even more valuable."

Don't give this crew any ideas. Wait! there's smoke coming out of my screen.

37958   FortWayne   2013 Oct 2, 3:08am  

tatupu70 says

FortWayne says

That's because you actually have to pay it back, politicians are spending our money so they don't have to care... they don't get to pay it back. They just get to enjoy spending it.

So, according to your analogy, the solution is not to put restrictions on credit card use. Your solution is to piss on the bill when it comes.

My solution is to cut the government credit card.

37959   freak80   2013 Oct 2, 3:10am  

FortWayne says

My solution is to cut the government credit card.

Which political party will advance your solution?

37960   tatupu70   2013 Oct 2, 3:13am  

FortWayne says

My solution is to cut the government credit card.

Then you agree that we have to raise the debt ceiling, right?

37961   FortWayne   2013 Oct 2, 3:20am  

tatupu70 says

FortWayne says

My solution is to cut the government credit card.

Then you agree that we have to raise the debt ceiling, right?

No, cut the spending and reduce the debt ceiling.

37962   tatupu70   2013 Oct 2, 3:21am  

FortWayne says

No, cut the spending and reduce the debt ceiling.

So, you are in favor of US defaulting? Not honoring our debts?

37963   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2013 Oct 2, 3:23am  

You know you might be crazy if ...
the president of the US will negotiate with Assad, but he will not negotiate with you.

37964   Dan8267   2013 Oct 2, 3:28am  

egads101 says

then the dems should also refuse to raise the debt ceiling until:

The Democrats should simply pass a bill stating that when the debt ceiling is reached, funding will be cut from the military first until military spending is reduced by 90%, and then funding will be cut from farm subsidies until such subsidies are reduced to 0%, and then funding will be cut from all remaining discretionary spending uniformly as necessary.

And before the Republicans get to try to filibuster it, Obama should issue an executive order preventing the use of a filibuster on this issue and mandating an up or down vote citing national security as justification. Any senator that objects gets a one-way ticket to Gitmo under the USA Patriot Act and the NSDA.

Unfortunately, Obama is such an evil fuck, he'd never do this. A real reformer would.

37965   freak80   2013 Oct 2, 3:33am  

Dan8267 says

The Democrats should simply pass a bill stating that when the debt ceiling is reached, funding will be cut from the military first until military spending is reduced by 90%, and then funding will be cut from farm subsidies until such subsidies are reduced to 0%

Our whole economy is based on perpetual war and cheap HFCS. Be careful what you wish for.

37966   Dan8267   2013 Oct 2, 3:40am  

freak80 says

Dan8267 says

white color crime

Wait did you mean "white collar crime" (i.e. corporate crime)? What is "white color" crime? I figure it's just a typo.

Freudian slip. The Daily Show did a good segment on this regarding New York City's stop and frisk policy. Basically, stop and frisk should be applied to white collar, financial crimes. If you fit a certain profile (male, white, balding, in a suit, in the financial district), then you should be stopped and frisked by cops. That's not prejudice, it's just good police profiling.

37967   FunTime   2013 Oct 2, 3:41am  

egads101 says

It will be very hard for the renter to come out ahead of the owner....

Yeah, if I ever saw numbers like that I'd buy in a second. In San Francisco, they've almost been the other way around.

37968   Dan8267   2013 Oct 2, 3:42am  

John Bailo says

Shutdown Government is the Conservatives version of Occupy Wall Street.

Ow! Best analogy ever.

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