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This is simply an opportunity to buy the dip in the stock market after as this all plays out.

I disagree with the workplaces won't be cutting the hours. They keep referencing studies saying all indicators that point to that not being true. It is true. I've seen it happen already with several employers gearing up to cut hours to part time workers.

They've done it at dozens of school districts in New Jersey already where substitute teachers are only allowed to work 3 days a week for this reason. And, the worst part is, this is a municipal entity, not some corporation run by a board looking to maximize profit.

Ahhh... another one of these little ancedotal stories meant to try and broadly disprove a much larger subject area. Like I've said before, I am certain that you can give me any subject, and story, or any piece of either democratic or republican legislation and I too can easily find a story or two of someone or a small group of people who have been affected negatively in some way. Therefore as in other cases, you're not proving anything. Yet this seems to be a favorite tactic from some our resident GOP shills...

theoakman says

They've done it at dozens of school districts in New Jersey already where substitute teachers are only allowed to work 3 days a week for this reason. And, the worst part is, this is a municipal entity, not some corporation run by a board looking to maximize profit.

Sub teachers didn't get healthcare before, did they? Even if they did limit their hours, how is that making things worse?

Call it Crazy says

And you keep posting links to Politifact, a known left wing website..

You blow your whole argument...

lol. Reality has a liberal bias. Truth has a liberal bias.

Instead of saying the source is biased, how about you actually show what is incorrect with their reasoning? Or which facts politifact is incorrectly representing?

Just kidding. I know you won't do that....

I'll be honest: To me all of the cable news channels produce what I'd call "Junk food news". I can barely watch any of those channels because the news is so distilled and dumbed down, the time spent per story is so short, and the depth given on the coverage is so meager that to me about the only thing its good for is background noise while running at the Gym. About the only news I ever really care to get isn't even on the tube. I typically listen to NPR, BBC, CBC, and read the news on a number of various web sites.

edvard2 says

I'll be honest: To me all of the cable news channels produce what I'd call "Junk food news".

It's what people want. News is a product.

zzyzzx says

The American Medical Association has weighed in on Obama's new health care package.

Hilarious.

How long before Fox News reports this as a real story?

I know of some left-wing websites which claim the world is round.

atleast it will be primarily nailing the stupid twats who have kept the USA out of single payer the last 30 years; aka the 50-70 year olds. Americans; a pennywise and dollar foolish.

Right on cue.

So, CIC, again. What does politifact have wrong? If they're so liberally biased, it should be easy to rebut their opinion.

They'll reach an agreement. It's all just political posturing. And getting the markets down for a quick profit.

tatupu70 says

Sub teachers didn't get healthcare before, did they? Even if they did limit their hours, how is that making things worse?

Less hours = less pay. Duh.

Hee hee... he said "single payer" with a straight face.

Aren't you fuckers Liberals? Then act like one God damn it!!!
The key operative here is "Socialized Medicine".

Otherwise, you Libs are worse than any Capitalist Republican there's ever been. A single payer insurance system is called a fucking "Monopoly" you fucking Morons!!!

Call it Crazy says

That's funny... After your 747 comments here, we are still waiting for YOU to come up with ONE substantial post.... Just One!!!

After your 4,096 comments, the rest of us are waiting for *you* to come up with one substantial post.

Call it Crazy says

Your kidding, right???

What?

BTW: Your =/= You're

dude what the fuck are you doing, you sit on here all day running this totally obviously retarded agenda.

We won't default. I can guarantee this is what will happen:

1: GOP will refuse to budge until the 11th hour.
2: At 11th hour, GOP conceded defeat, passes debt ceiling bill
3: Will say something like" The Democrats have won this time, but we'll be back!"- and then proceed to try and find some other prone-to-failure method to defund Obamacare.

errc says

So what your saying is, politifacts are rendering opinions,,,,

See freak's comments, above. :)

Everybody should have healthcare insurance but only the insured( beneficiary ) should pay for it, NOT employers or taxpayers via tax subsidy. This is called personal responsibility which is not in Democratic dictionary. They want everyone to have everything but want others to pay for it!

To Dumass Republicans on ACA,one name, John Roberts
To Dumass Republicans who didn't get paid last week,& into the future?,John Boehner

Everyone should have health insurance but the insured (beneficiary) should pay for it, NOT employers or tax payers via subsidies. This is called personal responsibility but it's not in Democrats dictionary. They want everyone to have everything but want someone else to pay for it!

EInvestor says

This is called personal responsibility which is not in Democratic dictionary.

There are also things called "forces beyond a person's control" which is not in the Republican dictionary.

Example: a person is laid off, and then gets a serious illness.

Example2: a person is seriously injured on the job and cannot work for a long period of time

Example3: a whole generation is suckered into believing that a college degree = a good paying job

Example4: a whole generation is suckered into massive student loan debt which will burden the entire economy for decades to come.

Example5: a person is born into poverty

Etc...

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freak80 says

Call it Crazy says

Your kidding, right???

What?

BTW: Your =/= You're

seriously what the hell is this loser doing?

is he just some bored idiot with nothing better to do? he's literally on here all the time just ranting away about how various policies which favor him personally are the best thing to do.

does anyone care what duck man the elitiest asian californian really think?

no not many people. but if he keeps posting he might finally get to feel smart.

How many on Patnet know some lazy asshole(s) on Disability that could do some type of work,FMTT,I said "WORK".
I know a few that say they will work anytime for cash.

Some of the natives here,Oregon, tell me they know people who have been on Disability most of their lives. Grain of salt?

What he's doing is throwing a temper tantrum because his parents won't listen to him anymore.

How many other mid aged dem voters are just big whiny brats that didn't like getting dragged to Sunday school by their dumb ass tea bag parents?

Waaaaah waaaaah, mommy and daddy keep voting republican and going to church, so like all the other uber cool califarians, let's pout about stupid christian right wingers all day.

That's what freedom is all about

sbh says

Most adults realize they learn the most from people with whom they disagree.

I agree.

CiC,

It's much easier to pick on the weak than the strong, isn't it?

Just like on the playground.

sbh says

it's time to grab your wallets and pay up as FAUX NOISE and the GOP monetize your ignorance.

And it's been going on for the last 10 years at least.

another post about entitlement programs and how anything beneficial must be a bad thing- aka- typical GOP crap. Moving on...

Call it Crazy says

Pick on the weak, dysfunctional government that administers the program

WTF??

Isn't a weak government exactly what you want?

I thought it was the goddam liberals who wanted a strong government.

Call it Crazy says

Pick on the weak, dysfunctional government that administers the program... I guess your right!!

Yeah, and I'm going to take a gander that this- along with any other entitlement program is waste in the eyes of those on the right... that is until come the day that they too might need those services.

I'm from the Gubbermint. I'm here to tell you "The Truth,the whole Truth & nothing but the Truth, So help me Politics."

Call it Crazy says

you guys like waste, fraud, abuse and cost over-runs on government programs...

I don't like it. It should stop.

I don't like the waste, fraud, abuse, and cost over-runs in the military-industrial complex either. Remember, it was a Republican president (Eisenhower) that warned us of the military-industrial complex.

The Republicans don't seem to bitch about wasteful military spending on useless wars. And wars kill lots of people.

Straw Man says

Less hours = less pay. Duh.

Not really. Less pay for 1 person, same pay for 2 people.

SoftShell says

Stop projecting.

Save it for your psychiatrist.

HEY YOU says

Yes,this is cornhole joke on the American people.

I hope you enjoy the the Rep/Con/Teas fucking you with their big Red,White & Blue Dick.Could it be your smiling?

I called him. He said he would be with you all week.

SoftShell says

20,000 pages of law

Say....who wrote that dang ol' 20,000 pages anyway?

Call it Crazy says

Sorry, I forgot that you guys like waste, fraud, abuse and cost over-runs on government programs...

No, and I didn't say that. What I'm saying is how ironic it is that for starters- the GOP is every bit as much, and if you look at the math- more guilty of government waste, and yet the flag that the GOP and its eager followers wave is that ALL social welfare programs are a waste, ALL users of it abuse it, and ALL of these are totally not needed. There is a reason for this tactic: Its meant to create a wedge so that GOP constituents will be distracted from the wasteful things their own party does right under their noses, all the while carrying on this diatribe against the very programs that these constituents at one time or another in their lives will need.

Hence the irony here. Yes- these social programs are all a big waste until YOU or anyone else who rails against them actually needs them.