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39830   ChapulinColorado   2013 Nov 28, 6:26am  

What happens if you are bulimic and binge eat only to hurl it out later.. .. Do you get credit for that?

39831   REpro   2013 Nov 28, 6:36am  

Robert Sproul says

What could go wrong?

Don’t forget: Debt just like deposits represent an asset for bank accounting.

39832   thomaswong.1986   2013 Nov 28, 8:21am  

bullshitmagnet says

In terms of housing, I think one thing has fundamentally changed since 2008. That is the realization that house prices actually can decline. I remember before the 2008 crash I had numerous people trying to drag me into buying a house, even as prices seemed to climb every month, saying that it didn't really matter how high house prices were, because they "never fell".

must have been the same people who never heard home prices even in sunny San Diego and LA declining by 30-40% in early 90s.. not to mention many other parts of the nation.

39833   Bubbabeefcake   2013 Nov 28, 9:08am  

Understand that the Dodd-Frank Qualified Mortgage provision takes effect on 1/10/14. The big banks are getting out of the lending business, and qualifying for a mortgage is about to become much more difficult. After 1/10/13, mortgage originators will face much higher risk, while mortgage backed security buyers will see their risks decrease. The bottom line is that futures sellers will have an even tougher time unloading their properties.

Prices will start trending down as fewer potential purchasers will be able to qualify for home loans. If interest rates go up, property prices will fall even faster. Even cash buyers, who pay too much now, will get their clocks cleaned by cap-rate compression as RE prices drop again, and the value of their RE goes down..

There is also the demographics problem of baby boomers needing to dump their houses, and, a whole generation of former and present college students weighed down by college loan debt, not in a financial position to buy, Then there is the problem of the banks holding back that phantom RE inventory. "In the third quarter of 2013, 10.2 percent of housing units were vacant, excluding vacant homes that the Census classifies as "seasonal," such as beach homes."

39834   Vicente   2013 Nov 28, 12:42pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

If I eat an Indian do I inherit his or her right to open an unlicensed casino?

Kirak may do WHATEVER he wants, as long as he knocks that damn asteroid off course.

39835   New Renter   2013 Nov 28, 3:39pm  

But KIRK may (and will) do whoever he wants. Period.

39836   New Renter   2013 Nov 29, 12:41am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

Kirk fuck universe is the prime directive, right?

Its the ONLY directive!

39837   New Renter   2013 Nov 29, 1:06am  

mAPOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

I think everyone can agree that it would be far more beneficial for America that I am appointed Comptroller of the Currency and vested with powers of life and, much more importantly, death over bank executives.

Come on AF but we all know your ammo budget alone would triple the national debt.

39838   FortWayne   2013 Nov 29, 1:14am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

I think everyone can agree that it would be far more beneficial for America that I am appointed Comptroller of the Currency and vested with powers of life and, much more importantly, death over bank executives.

You got my vote, that's for sure.

39839   HydroCabron   2013 Nov 29, 1:31am  

How about zero terms?

39840   ttsmyf   2013 Nov 29, 1:37am  

The Public Be Suckered
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

39841   turtledove   2013 Nov 29, 2:00am  

Yes, eliminate term limits. That's a great idea. These term limits have really made things difficult for big corporations to fully realize their American dream. Every few years, they potentially have to start over again. They have to find a new guy to put all their money behind.... Reassemble their chess pieces... And that's just not fair. The corporations need continuity to bring their dreams to fruition.

39842   Philistine   2013 Nov 29, 2:02am  

turtledove says

The corporations need continuity to bring their dreams to fruition.

Eliminate the government. Give the Corporations their birthright: to rule directly without the interference of sham bureaucracy. Give us the fascism We deserve!

39843   turtledove   2013 Nov 29, 2:03am  

Philistine says

turtledove says

The corporations need continuity to bring their dreams to fruition.

Eliminate the government. Give the Corporations their birthright: to rule directly without the interference of sham bureaucracy. Give us the fascism We deserve!

Bank of America for president!

39844   Bubbabeefcake   2013 Nov 29, 2:33am  

Philistine says

Give us the fascism We deserve!

Pure, pristine, unfetered, modern day feudulism

39845   Ceffer   2013 Nov 29, 2:35am  

Yes, and we need to remove the unseemly ritual of voter election. Heil, Obama!

39846   Tenpoundbass   2013 Nov 29, 3:06am  

Call it Crazy says

In The Washington Post, Jonathan Zimmerman, a history professor from NYU, has written an article claiming that all of America’s problems would be soloved–GET THIS–if only we would allow Barack Obama to run for a third term!

Translation...

"I'm sorry there wont be anymore Rock-n-Roll tonight, this is all we have left!"

39847   Dan8267   2013 Nov 29, 3:57am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

If I eat an Indian do I inherit his or her right to open an unlicensed casino?

You are so insensitive!

If I eat a Native American, do I inherit his or her right to open an unlicensed casino?

And the answer is yes. This is how Elizabeth Warren became a Native American.

39848   Dan8267   2013 Nov 29, 5:00am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

I thought Lizzycakes skinned one and wore it around as a hat and absorbed her spirit through osmotic action.

Spectral absorption would not explain the high cheek bones indicative of Native Americans like Johnny Depp.

39849   ttsmyf   2013 Nov 30, 6:38am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people! [AND Homes thru 2013 Q3]

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Friday, November 29, 2013 __ Level is 102.9

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

39850   FortWayne   2013 Nov 30, 1:12pm  

If they are forfeiting 30 million, that means he has another 50 million sitting somewhere waiting for him to get out.

Plenty of dirtbags in this country figured out that all they have to do is steal a lot, and plead guilty giving up a fraction. It's like being a banker, crime pays.

39851   thomaswong.1986   2013 Nov 30, 2:02pm  

bgamall4 says

That was not well publicized. It was not long lasting either. Wong again.

It was well know and well written about.. if you read BusinessWeek or other Business related publications..

http://www.rntl.net/history_of_a_housing_bubble.htm

39852   HydroCabron   2013 Nov 30, 3:54pm  

I'm not saying that all realtors are fountains of flagitious and rebarbative criminality; nor am I labelling them arrant treacherous, scaley invertebrates.

But I am saying that these sorts of statements have been made, and it should be a matter of importance to realtors in general to answer these allegations. Yet we hear nothing from them. I wonder why not?

Words like "slime", "psychopath", "scum-sucking sleazeball", and "swine" - not my words, I assure you - merit a response, don't you think?

39853   anonymous   2013 Dec 2, 1:26am  

Seems as if somebody got ahold of some raw ass chronic here this harvest season. You're much more wack-a-doo then usual on this first Monday back to work after the holiday,,,,,

39854   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 2, 4:13am  

"..attack the messenger."

What's with all the conspiracy BS.

Everyone knows Iraq has WMD...& they will be found soon. lol

39855   HEY YOU   2013 Dec 2, 4:27am  

When Cannibal Anarchy is in full swing,I won't be eating Face because it's probably been up their Ass & probably another Ass. I call that Shit-Face but proper cooking temp would kill the E-coli.
I shouldn't be so picky. Just remembered.I've eaten chitlin's.

39856   zzyzzx   2013 Dec 2, 9:23am  

Will Greek Neo-Nazis Cannibals Enjoy Eating Face With Tzatziki ?

Of course!

39857   Ceffer   2013 Dec 2, 9:38am  

Cannibal baklava: Layers of crispy fried face skin with sesame seeds and honey!

Stump fucked tongue with olives, oil, and figs, served on basil rice with olive leaves.

39858   AverageBear   2013 Dec 2, 10:02am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

If I eat an Indian do I inherit his or her right to open an unlicensed casino?

You should ask Liz Warren. But then you'd probably only get a fake orgasm to go along w/ her fake claim to being indian.... Sorry, no casino for you.

39859   AverageBear   2013 Dec 2, 10:04am  

AverageBear says

If I eat an Indian do I inherit his or her right to open an unlicensed casino?

You should ask Liz Warren. But then you'd probably only get a fake orgasm to go along w/ her fake claim to being indian.... Sorry, no casino for you.

So freakin' slow on the response. Only seeing like a million other LIz Warren comments. oh well....

39860   ttsmyf   2013 Dec 2, 10:31am  

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people! [AND Homes thru 2013 Q3]

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Monday, December 2, 2013 __ Level is 102.4

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

39861   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2013 Dec 2, 1:25pm  

you left out the best part: "since this is federal gov website, if the website gets compromised, the gov doesn't have to notify the users of the breach."

in other words: Obama free loaders: DO NOT APPLY for free healthcare!!!

39862   AverageBear   2013 Dec 2, 8:25pm  

3 years in the making, and they didn't build security measures into the Obamacare website? The front-end doesn't work, the back-end can be compromised by hackers. Insurance companies don't know if they'll get re-imbursed, and the handful that have signed up, don't really know if they'll have coverage by January 1st.

No wonder the MSM is downplaying Obama's record low approval ratings...

I'm actually surprised that CNBC is committing an act of journalism on our dear leader...

39863   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 2, 10:53pm  

It's OK It will result in a single page internet.

39864   zzyzzx   2013 Dec 2, 11:10pm  

Probably the work of minority contractors.

39865   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 2, 11:29pm  

zzyzzx says

Probably the work of minority contractors.

No it's the result of Democracy development, where the non technical members of the organization, play a bigger role in dictating the overall design, than the technical people in that organization.

How ever that being said, you have to realize, there isn't one single site on the internet that can't be breached, and probably hasn't been breached, when skilled hackers want in.

What I find frustrating, is all of the obscure and vague charges made against Obamacare. As much as I just love a reason to bitch about Obama and Obamacare, I don't like feeling like some lemming schmuck who's just bitching about technology, on the very limited information we're being given.

Though the reality of it, could be far worse, that what little tidbits we're being feed, or it's all just being put in layman terms, for the American fool can play along with the outrage.

The truth would probably make those who made the decisions in Washington look like even bigger idiots. So we're just spoon fed, vague limited tech'ese jargon, to make it seem like the world biggest idiots developed the site. When it was probably the worlds biggest Idiots, dictating to the requirements, not only in concept but in implementation.

39866   edvard2   2013 Dec 2, 11:44pm  

Looks like you fellas are gunna' have to find some other sound bite you heard on right wing talk shows to badmouth healthcare because it now appears that the worst is over, the site is now mostly fixed with more glitches being repaired every day, record numbers of people are signing up, and Congress will be out on a long vacation, meaning a long stretch in which the other problems with the site will be fixed without the GOP making up more crap they were spoon fed by the tea party and other fake outside interests.

In other words- history repeats itself and the GOP finds itself in the same historical situation they always find themselves in, which is that they almost always support legislation and rhetoric that goes contrary to what actually happens. They can't hold back the hands of time and thus history keeps on happening without their input.

39867   edvard2   2013 Dec 3, 12:34am  

Call it Crazy says

We know Eddie, you'll just keep waving the Rah, Rah Rah, Obama flag... Your rose colored glass are working full time these days...

As I've mentioned a number of times, I grew up in a very rural, almost entirely Republican area in the South, and for a time was a Republican voter myself. I now live in a fairly liberal area. I've witnessed both sides of the table. Seeing the world from this experience showed me reality and reality seems to have a whole hell of a lot less to do with the agenda of the GOP. So no, to put aside your assertion, I don't see things through rose colored glasses, but rather through the lens of real life experience and objectivity. There are very few people like me, who have been on both sides and lived in such total polar opposite sides of the political spectrum.

As far as the Obamacare site, yes- the site has had some problems and the launch was carried out poorly. But that doesn't mean the healthcare plan is not sound. Could it be better? Sure. There's lots of room for improvement. But the takeaway is that the system we had before SUCKED about 200% more, with the largest number of bankruptcies in the US tied to healthcare related problems. Now- the GOP is always going on and on about spending. What do you think happens when someone declares bankruptcies? The banks eat it and like it or not, we in turn all are affected in some way and the net result is a cost of billions and billions to the US economy.

The GOP had their chance. Years in fact to present their own plan. Hell- they even ran a presidential candidate who implemented a healthcare plan that was damned close to being the same as Obamacare. Instead, they were so hell-bent on trying to stop ANY form of public healthcare, in large part thanks to their party having been co-opted by the likes of the Tea Party, which in of itself is a astroturf organization supported by the very outside interests who would profit if the system were to have been kept as it was-meaning huge profits from substandard care, that they in effect wasted that opportunity from day one.

So the GOP lost. And the best they can come up with is to keep up the badmouthing. They have wasted years so far on an issue they lost. They could move forward and start doing their jobs, but I doubt that will happen. Instead they'll simply keep painting themselves into a narrowing corner.

At this point the GOP is in complete dysfunction. Despite my lack of support for their causes, we do in fact need a stronger GOP versus the status it finds itself in. The intentional gridlock the GOP has undertaken is costing the US economy dearly. The sooner the GOP gets with the program and stops pandering to monied interests and actually starts working for their constituents again the better off everyone- whether conservative or liberal- will be.

39868   Tenpoundbass   2013 Dec 3, 12:37am  

edvard2 says

As I've mentioned a number of times, I grew up in a very rural, almost entirely Republican area in the South, and for a time was a Republican voter myself. I now live in a fairly liberal area. I've witnessed both sides of the table. Seeing the world from this experience showed me reality and reality seems to have a whole hell of a lot less to do with the agenda of the GOP.

So basically you're saying Rich Liberals are more fun than Poor Southern Liberals. If you are in the South, then you're a republican, but in Heathenville, you're a true blue Liberal.

Laughing with the sinners rather than crying with the saints aye?

39869   FortWayne   2013 Dec 3, 1:03am  

zzyzzx says

Probably the work of minority contractors.

Realistically it was probably outsourced to a group of men, somewhere overseas, who have never seen a computer until now, and go by names most of us can't pronounce.

Crony capitalism in all it's glory.

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