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43511   RWSGFY   2014 Mar 3, 3:04am  

Call it Crazy says

justme says

Can we get back to something real here?

Russians are saying they have NOT issued an ultimatum about Ukranian navy

Do you believe everything you read on the Internet??

Only if it comes from the Politburo.

43512   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 3, 3:25am  

I think America is under estimating Russia's abilities.
They were awarded the Olympics, then told they had to spend billions to spruce up the place. The Russians said sure, no problem. The West then planed the Ukrane uprising, to coincide with the Olympics. They figured Putin would be too preoccupied with the ceremonies to worry about the Ukrane. But I don't think they planned on those damn pesky Gays, to pester and aggravate Putin while the fix was in the works.

Putin is under attack from all sides, he has the gay coalition screaming in one ear, and then the Ukrane revolting, wanting to be European in the other. All the while the Olympics are going on, he has the Cutlas wavers threatening a terrorist attack on his athletic prom. Then He has the west, cheering the whole thing on, while telling Putin we're watching you, we know you're broke from spending billions on Sochi, and didn't get the attendance because to the Olympics were way down from the terrorist threats, and that whole America still don't trust the Russians thing.

But for those who have been paying attention, Putins Ace behind his ear, is the fact, that he didn't actually build a 80 billion dollar Olympic village, he only built a set prop. And probably still has enough money and resources, to flex his muscles, and put his house back in order.

Don't under estimate a shirtless man with a flashlight in the middle of the night.

43513   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Mar 3, 3:25am  

So far it was Obama trying to install a friendly gov in Russia's backyard.
It wasn't the manly Putin trying to install a puppet regime in Mexico.

43514   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Mar 3, 3:28am  

It is quite funny to see the US and UK criticize the 'illegal' invasion of a sovereign country.

Isn't that exactly what they did in Iraq?

43515   bob2356   2014 Mar 3, 3:48am  

bgamall4 says

t is on Haaretz. They should know smart ass.

So give me a link. I'll be waiting, and waiting, and waiting, and waiting.

bgamall4 says

See Bob, that is what happens when you trust mainstream American news. You will look like a fool, often.

You're the fool who can't come up with the number or names. Still waiting.

43516   FortWayne   2014 Mar 3, 6:33am  

Those people are nuts out there, at least out here in US we found a way to make Nazi party go bankrupt before they got out of control.

Nazis are some scary people.

43517   FortWayne   2014 Mar 3, 11:11am  

Call it Crazy says

66% of workers have saved less than $50,000 for their retirement. And 28% have saved less than $1,00

Free market success story. I'm sure all those government connected top 1%ers earned their billions fair and square.

43518   FortWayne   2014 Mar 3, 11:15am  

Heraclitusstudent says

It is quite funny to see the US and UK criticize the 'illegal' invasion of a sovereign country.

Isn't that exactly what they did in Iraq?

Yeah we lost a lot of credibility on the topic as a nation.

43519   RWSGFY   2014 Mar 3, 12:24pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

It is quite funny to see the US and UK criticize the 'illegal' invasion of a sovereign country.

Isn't that exactly what they did in Iraq?

Um, no. For one, they had UNSC resolution authorizing the invasion. Hello!

43520   Facebooksux   2014 Mar 3, 12:40pm  

Straw Man says

Heraclitusstudent says

It is quite funny to see the US and UK criticize the 'illegal' invasion of a sovereign country.

Isn't that exactly what they did in Iraq?

Um, no. For one, they had UNSC resolution authorizing the invasion. Hello!

No it didn't, you ignorant state department shill.
http://www.hrcr.org/hottopics/Iraq.html

It was done weeks after the fact.

43521   Facebooksux   2014 Mar 3, 12:43pm  

bob2356 says

bgamall4 says

How many of you guys know that the Russian Oligarchs, or many of them had duel citizenship in Israel, just like our neocons.

Why don't you tell us exactly how many Russian Oligarchs(?) and neocons have Israeli passports and who they are. I'll still be waiting when the next extinction happens.

Start here, shithead.
http://911justicecampaign.org/suspected-9-11-criminal-coconspirators/

43522   RWSGFY   2014 Mar 3, 12:55pm  

Facebooksux says

No it didn't, you ignorant state department shill.

Fuck you very much, you little Putin's bitch.

It was done weeks after the fact.

They had Resolution 1441. Iraq failed to comply and got "serious consequences", as promised. Russia has nothing at all. Zero, zilch, nada.

43523   justme   2014 Mar 3, 2:37pm  

Straw Man says

They had Resolution 1441. Russia has nothing at all. Zero, zilch, nada.

Dude, is having a UN resolution that was based on a bunch of lies and fabrications better than nothing? I'd say it is WORSE than nothing, because it shows the coalition really had nothing of significance in the first place.

43524   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Mar 3, 2:45pm  

Straw Man says

They had Resolution 1441.

At the time it was signed, France and Russia specifically said this resolution didn't authorize the use of force.

The best "legal" argument (more like a legal rationalization) the US had was that the previous war never ended.

43525   Blurtman   2014 Mar 3, 2:53pm  

Has Russia created an Abu Ghraib in the Ukraine? No.

Has Russia killed 100,000 women and children in the invasion of Crimea? No.

Has Putin callously laughed at the bogus rationale for invading the Crimea and killing thousands? No.

43526   justme   2014 Mar 3, 4:58pm  

PBS Newshour finally got their act together and found someone that would provide a more balanced view of the Ukraine crisis.

He is Prof Stephen Cohen of NYU and Prinecton. Here is the video:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/debating-moscows-military-moves-crimea/

Cohen starts at about time 4:53. Before that time, the warmongering point of view is presented by Michael McFaul, former Ambassador to Russia and now, it appears from the background, at Stanford U. Cohen really schooled anchorwoman Gwen Ifill, who seemed either angry, embarassed or both at the end.

Cohen makes many good points, not the least of which is that current US policy does not acknowledge Russia any legitimate security interest EVEN AT ITS OWN BORDERS. It's like telling the US that a revolution in Canada and Mexico is none of the USs business. Can you imagine Washington accepting that? I cannot.

Personally, I might add that the US certainly has taken the stance that the revolution on Cuba very much was our business. Anyway, watch the video. The Cohen part is good stuff.

Diagnosis: Obama is afraid to look weak, and Kerry has become a blithering warmongering idiot. I say, enough with the evil and moronic double standards, where we, the US, can do whatever we want, "because we are the good guys". As has been proven over and over again since 1945, we are NOT the good guys.

43527   bob2356   2014 Mar 3, 6:56pm  

Facebooksux says

bob2356 says

bgamall4 says

How many of you guys know that the Russian Oligarchs, or many of them had duel citizenship in Israel, just like our neocons.

Why don't you tell us exactly how many Russian Oligarchs(?) and neocons have Israeli passports and who they are. I'll still be waiting when the next extinction happens.

Start here, shithead.

http://911justicecampaign.org/suspected-9-11-criminal-coconspirators/

I looked the first 6 people on your list with "dual citizenship". All were born, raised, and educated in the US. None never worked outside of the US. None were listed as having Israeli citizenship, not that they could get it without living in Israel. You are as big an idiot as bgmal. If I set up a web page saying martians had landed in mid town LA I guess that would make it true. After all if there's a web page then it's proven.

I've always wondered, is it hard walking around with your head up your ass? How do you avoid bumping into people?

43528   justme   2014 Mar 3, 11:11pm  

Trying to embed the video I referred to, two posts above this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x-8avsNcDPI

Well. that didn't work. Anyone know how to do it?

43530   zzyzzx   2014 Mar 3, 11:17pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

At the time it was signed, France and Russia specifically said this resolution didn't authorize the use of force.

So we will send Hans Brix and a strongly worded letter?

43531   zzyzzx   2014 Mar 3, 11:19pm  

Wikipedia shows different numbers than your article. As in much higher % Ukrainians living in the Ukraine, except in Crimea.

43532   FortWayne   2014 Mar 3, 11:45pm  

They won't. Dollar is a world reserve currency, Euro isn't

43533   FortWayne   2014 Mar 3, 11:46pm  

bgamall4 says

Even though NeoNazis share power in the Ukraine, now. We are giving a billion dollars in aid to NeoNazis.

SO much for our "Founding Principles" right?

43534   Tenpoundbass   2014 Mar 4, 12:07am  

It's not Putin envy, it's embarrassing, we have to keep reminding our selves. That HE'S the commie.

43535   Automan Empire   2014 Mar 4, 12:13am  

The online right wingers are having a regular Putinanny right now. In some quarters, a Putin Bromance is not strong enough to describe what I'm seeing.

43536   Moderate Infidel   2014 Mar 4, 12:34am  

The Jews stole some of my socks and now I don't have a matching pair anywhere. Goddamn Jews!

43537   New Renter   2014 Mar 4, 12:49am  

Que the home builders!

43538   indigenous   2014 Mar 4, 1:40am  

This guy wants to out do FDR. The quintessence of incompetence...

43539   indigenous   2014 Mar 4, 1:44am  

jojo says

I don't think you understand history correctly. Read a bit about FDR and come back when you have something to offer.

What am I missing ?

43540   tatupu70   2014 Mar 4, 1:49am  

indigenous says

What am I missing ?

Everything?

43541   indigenous   2014 Mar 4, 1:53am  

tatupu70 says

What am I missing ?

Everything?

and the quintessence of projecting...

43542   Moderate Infidel   2014 Mar 4, 2:02am  

bgamall4 says

Moderate Infidel says

The Jews stole some of my socks and now I don't have a matching pair anywhere. Goddamn Jews!

I am not talking about Jews. I am talking about Zionists. Zionism is not a race. You continue to be an idiot in the way that you think.

We see through your racists code word shenanigans Jew hater.

43543   Moderate Infidel   2014 Mar 4, 2:14am  

bgamall4 says

Arseniy Yatsenyuk is a Zionist. His parents are Jewish,

bgamall4 says

I am not talking about Jews. I am talking about Zionists.

Then why mention his parents are Jewish? Lying scumbag racists loony.

43544   indigenous   2014 Mar 4, 2:15am  

jojo says

Allowing the government to negotiate with healthcare providers will LOWER federal spending and in turn LOWER our deficit.

That has never worked and never will. This is crony capitalism at its finest and will either increase costs or begin rationing or both. This is economics 101. jojo says

Removing this will work to DELEVERAGE our economy:

'President Bill Clinton signed into law the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997'

http://www.bob-taylor.com/tax1.htm

Apparently we should just abandon private property from the country?
The very reason this country has prospered over communist countries is private property.

jojo says

Making banks smaller will work to DELEVERAGE our economy:

And we need to reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Legislation

Glass Steagall would have done nothing to prevent the meltdown because it did not regulate derivatives.

The elegant answer would have been not to bail out the banks. Ok course this would have inconvenienced Buffet, Immelt, GS, MS, GM, GE, and others but so fucking what?

Ivy league education huh? No you got Ivy league schooling.

I recommend that you read David Stockman's book The Great Deformation and Thomas Sowell's book Basic Economics and take a course in basic logic.

43545   tatupu70   2014 Mar 4, 2:27am  

indigenous says

Glass Steagall would have done nothing to prevent the meltdown because it did
not regulate derivatives.

You keep saying that but you're still wrong. Read up on Glass Steagall and learn what it DID regulate and why that would have gone a long way towards preventing the bubble and subsequent collapse.

43546   tatupu70   2014 Mar 4, 2:29am  

indigenous says

The elegant answer would have been not to bail out the banks. Ok course this
would have inconvenienced Buffet, Immelt, GS, MS, GM, GE, and others but so
fucking what?

lol--so fucking what?? Are you kidding me?? Here's a pro tip for you. You would most likely be unemployed too. Would you care at that point?

43547   hrhjuliet   2014 Mar 4, 2:44am  

Why is there such a large number of liars in real estate? What attracts them to the profession? Is it the profession that attracts the unscrupulous, or does being part of the National Real Estate Association change their morals? It seems to me that the association acts a little like a cult, so is it unfair to assume some are mislead, just like members of a cult? There seems to be a lot of the same symptoms of cult manipulation in many real estate professionals I know. My own cousin is starting to show signs.

43548   hrhjuliet   2014 Mar 4, 2:49am  

Price. Ridiculously high prices no matter now normal someone claims them to be. Prices are so extreme I can't imagine why anyone would be interested in buying until the housing market goes way down. If it doesn't go down for a long time? Oh well, then intelligent people will not be interested for a long time. It's really rather simple.

43549   indigenous   2014 Mar 4, 2:54am  

control point says

Its high time for all of us to stop arguing with retards. This horse has been beaten to dust.

Right back at ya

43550   tatupu70   2014 Mar 4, 2:59am  

indigenous says

The graph stayed down from the early 30s to the late 30s

What is your definition of "stayed down"??? Are you looking at the same graph as I am?

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