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bgamall4 says

To think that no conspiracy happened, when you look at Sandy Hook, 9/11, etc, is to lack intellectual integrity. Study diligently.

How so?

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Tuesday, March 11, 2014 __ Level is 104.3

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

The Ukraine crisis is one of the few reasons I appreciate Obama and dems. Does one really think we can declare war on Russia? Russia has very little debt, huge surplus and still growing at close to 4-5% a year.

Russia and Ukraine have a history that goes back longer than America has been in existance. Strong rhetroic is enough-ain't gonna solve that one if we tried anything . Old McCain is a one trick pony and hasn't seen anything that he doesn't want to bomb. Stop focusing on the world and focus on our own problems-is that too much to ask.

Call it Crazy says

The ongoing crisis in Russia and Ukraine has, for some, highlighted deficiencies in President Obama’s foreign policy (or lack thereof).

Ukraine happened because Obama was acting like John Wayne, not in spite of it.

The toppling of the pro-Russian regime was a consequence of CIA and other U.S. government backing for the opposition and the protesters. Putin saw it, rightly, as western meddling in his backyard: meddling which I happen to agree was a good thing.

Perhaps we should return foreign police to the neocons. After all, they have such an excellent track record: as the architects of the end of Sunni rule in Iraq, they are the best friends Iran ever had. But this is just one blemish on their otherwise flawless record of failure.

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Last I checked, those space alien quadrillionaires defecate gold-pressed latinum, not platinum.

It'd be nice if the student loan interest deduction didn't phase out. Beyond that, I think the government has probably gone way too far into the student loan business and is over-subsidizing universities, particularly shitty for-profit ones.

SFace says

The biggest change in stock compensation over the decade is the popularity of RSU's, PSU's in lieu of options, especially if you are not the first several hundred seed employees. stock units guarantees a payday (if liquidity hurdle is cleared) albeit you lose the upside of sheer options where the price explodes and you hold say 30K options and benefit on the increment than say 10K units where you benefit from the entire price.

Oh please, I know what the typical rank and file employee in the Valley gets in terms of RSUs. It's not that much. Again, a nice down payment, but not 4 houses. Sometimes it's based on a percentage of your base salary or base salary + bonus, sometimes based on other things. Depends on company.

SFace says

The thing is if you hit on the right company, at the right time, at the right executive level from someone I know.

Right, I already said that. If you are a key employee, possibly big bucks for you. Rank and file, no. We are talking about small numbers of people here, relatively speaking. I know several people like that too -- they are very much the minority.

SFace says

People who made their wealth in the dotcom eras are the buyers the last 10 years in the valley. People who makes their wealth now, will drive demand for their next generation.

They are, but again, only a small number of buyers, relatively speaking. Do they influence the market? Of course they do, but they aren't the whole market.

bgamall4 says

You need to take what I am saying about 9/11 seriously. A real crime by our own leaders has been created there.

You have not indicated evidence?

FDR instigated both theaters. It is common for political leaders to do this to divert attention from their own transgressions. Too bad there is no money in playing it straight.

bgamall4 says

Listen to it carefully, not just the part where he goes on to talk about a false flag against Iran.

Yes regarding the examples they gave but there was nothing said about 9/11?

That is your idea of proof?

bgamall4 says

I wrote this, and it could help some people:

www.amazon.com/False-Flag-Murdering-Neocon-Crazies-ebook/dp/B00DVDJQGW/

Bigsby must be on a New World Order vacation, lol.

No, I'm just utterly bored with your inane and repetitive drivel.

Popular Mechanics explained this it had to do with no sprinklers the point that steel looses strength and that once the top floor goes the momentum takes out the floors below it one at a time.

bgamall4 says

indigenous says

Popular Mechanics explained this it had to do with no sprinklers the point that steel looses strength and that once the top floor goes the momentum takes out the floors below it one at a time.

It would have taken too much time to take out the floors one at a time. There was not time for the floors to pancake, and if you look at the video above, you will see that there was no pancaking, only a fall of all the floors simultaneously. The floors remained intact all the way to the ground. All the pins were removed at the very same time.

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf

Bigsby says

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf

Thanks Bigsby

bgamall4

I put you on ignore before because of too many inanities... Actual experts on the subject are more believable than your ideas.

I will say that before almost every war the leaders have instigated it one way or another. But this one is over the top even for them.

bgamall4 says

Really. So, when the website Bigsby provides says it doesn't know why WTC7 fell, the only way to squirm out of their debunking failure, you believe them?

That in conjunction with the Popular Mechanics article, yup, the rest of the instigation s by FDR, Wilson, LBJ, Lincoln are easily shown

bgamall4 says

And your stupid site, Implosion world concludes they don't know why WTC7 fell. Got that Bigsby? They give up. It looks like a demolition when compared to other demolitions. It starts with the bottom floors imploding and the floors keep their structure as they fall into the footprint. The fall was nearly at the rate of gravity. No pancaking is observed at the real demolition or the WTC7 Side by Side. And so, with all that evidence the cover up website says they don't know why the hell it fell!

Drink some hemlock Bigsby. Do us all a favor.

Unlike you, most people don't claim to know exactly how something happened - they posit logical arguments based on the evidence at hand rather than blind assertions based on others' Youtube videos. The people who wrote that article aren't claiming it to be an explanation of the mechanics of how the buildings collapsed, it relates to what they know about demolition - something you seem to think you are an expert on but which these people actually are. Is that why you seem so worked up in your responses?

bgamall4 says

Hey Bigsby, you said before that there was no New World Order. Hagel says there is. Just another lie on your ledger.

Good grief. He isn't arguing that there is a 'New World Order' the way you mean it you plum.

Reminds me of the Japanese in the late 80s/early 90s...

In all fairness I remember hearing stories about H. W. Bush, how out of touch he was. He hadn't actually personally paid for anything throughout most of his adult life. He didn't know how a credit card worked, nor did he have a personal one. I remember stories, that if you were a new person in his campaigns and various political ventures, you might be stuck with picking up the tab, until you could be reimbursed.

This was a topic at the time, because here he was campaigning for the Luxury tax, the very tax that killed a South Florida billions of dollars a year Boat and high end cars industry.

Having said that, he sure seems more like a Bush every day.

Awesome. Send them to Orange County.....Newport Beach is still a bargain compared to San Francisco.

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Wednesday, March 12, 2014 __ Level is 104.3

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:

And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!

And http://patrick.net/?p=1230886

Indeed, related to the thread is this article - where do you think these Chinese are going to go next? : http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303874504579377782536917724

Specifically:

"Last year, Chinese buyers spent just US$439 million in Canada, barely 2% of their investment in 2012, according to Dealogic. Chinese investment in the U.S., meanwhile, almost doubled to US$12.2 billion over the period, and increased by 13% to US$10.2 billion in Australia. Chinese executives say that concerns over State Owned Enterprises are based on a misinterpretation of their motives and organization."

What does that say about the future of China?

The execs are selling?
The rats fleeing the ship?

Heraclitusstudent says

What does that say about the future of China?

The execs are selling?

The rats fleeing the ship?

I think it is too early to tell. The number of Chinese "fleeing" still makes up a very, very small percentage of the country. Also, most Chinese people (from mainland China) I see here in the US still have very strong ties, both emotional and financial, to their homeland (naturally). I think it is a myth that the Chinese all want to leave China. After all, it is getting better day by day, while this place is getting worse...

Han says

I think it is a myth that the Chinese all want to leave China.

I didn't mean fleeing China as a home nation.
I meant that they obviously don't think their money can be invested safely in China.

This shouldn't be the case with 7.5% growth in China and 2.5% here.
But apparently that's what they think of the future.

Heraclitusstudent says

I didn't mean fleeing China as a home nation.

I meant that they obviously don't think their money can be invested safely in China.

Well, there was that Bain survey which suggested that a lot of the high net worth individuals want to diversify their holdings a bit outside of China. Their concern was wealth *preservation* as opposed to wealth creation.

That survey apparently also suggested that a large number of these individuals were considering emigrating, but it was quite vague as to what "planning" or "considering" really means. I'm considering a lot of things, but that doesn't mean I'm likely to do them all.

In any case, there isn't that much evidence that a large number of people have fled, as Han said.

The definition of HNWI was $1.6 million (10 million RMB), which isn't really that much money on the low end -- certainly not enough for the legendary "all-cash" non-sense that the realtors claim unless you are investing a ridiculously large percentage of your portfolio that way. Why be a piker here, when you could be a robber baron there?

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

bgamall4 says

Hey Bigsby, you said before that there was no New World Order. Hagel says there is. Just another lie on your ledger.

Good grief. He isn't arguing that there is a 'New World Order' the way you mean it you plum.

Yes he is. He is saying that the neocons took the defense department and made it an independent department. Those neocons are connected to the New World Order as much as are the ones who bankrolled it, the Rothschilds and Rockefellers and Warburgs.

If you don't think so, look at the reward Dick Cheney and Rupert Murdoch got with their opportunity with Genie Energy. Look it up you corrupt soul.

At least you managed to avoid writing the word zionist. Just.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

At least you managed to avoid writing the word zionist. Just.

Are you a Zionist Bigsby?

No. Are you an idiot? There's no need to reply.

indigenous says

Popular Mechanics explained this it had to do with no sprinklers the point that steel looses strength and that once the top floor goes the momentum takes out the floors below it one at a time.

They told us they aren't spying on us either, next thing we found out about NSA the hard way. I' just saying, don't trust this government too much. They aren't interested in educated public, they are only interested in their own power and expanding it wherever and whenever possible.

Bigsby says

No. Are you an idiot? There's no need to reply.

Come on big, whats with name calling?

FortWayne says

indigenous says

Popular Mechanics explained this it had to do with no sprinklers the point that steel looses strength and that once the top floor goes the momentum takes out the floors below it one at a time.

They told us they aren't spying on us either, next thing we found out about NSA the hard way. I' just saying, don't trust this government too much. They aren't interested in educated public, they are only interested in their own power and expanding it wherever and whenever possible.

It's not an issue of trusting them over this. You can use your eyes and brain and draw a conclusion from the information available to you. So do YOU believe those 3 buildings were brought down by demolition, that Sandy Hook and the Boston bombings were hoaxes...?

bgamall4 says

I say you are a Zionist Bigsby. Prove it that you aren't. Prove it by any post on this forum.

Good grief. Prove you don't have mental problems.

Oh, you mean this post that you keep deleting. Why are you deleting a post of your own comments?

FortWayne says

Bigsby says

No. Are you an idiot? There's no need to reply.

Come on big, whats with name calling?

Err, have you read the content of his posts aimed at me? I think you should direct that comment elsewhere or simply refrain from making it in the first place. From this short thread:

bgamall4 says

Damn you are stupid.

bgamall4 says

Thanks you stupid dickwad.

bgamall4 says

You may as well terminate your useless life. Maybe you could drink something, or slit your wrists you worthless piece of lying horseshit.

bgamall4 says

Drink some hemlock Bigsby. Do us all a favor.

bgamall4 says

You are evil personified, Bigsby.

bgamall4 says

Look it up you corrupt soul.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

bgamall4 says

I say you are a Zionist Bigsby. Prove it that you aren't. Prove it by any post on this forum.

Good grief. Prove you don't have mental problems.

I am waiting. Prove you are not a Zionist when every position to support is the Zionist agenda.

So let me get this straight, believing that the WTC buildings were not brought down by demolition and that Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing were not hoaxes makes someone a zionist. Is that what you are saying? The fact that I believe that the Israelis should abide by the UN resolutions over Palestine means what exactly?

Call it Crazy says

Hmmm... Gold at $1,366. right now.... What's up with that???

Such a barbarous relic. Pays no dividends.

1. What do the UN resolutions say?
2. I couldn't care less what the Rothschilds did or did not do.
3. I believe in the right of the people of every sovereign nation to decide their own destiny.
4. The Jewish state already exists. If the Palestinians want the possibility of any kind of peaceful settlement, then, yes, they will have to accept the existence of Israel.

bgamall4 says

4. It is not a Jewish state. But let's explore that one Bigsby, because this is where you fail the most in denying you are a Zionist.

Is the Jewish state based on race? If it is, it is an apartheid state and cannot be supported anymore than South Africa can be supported. Two wrongs don't make a right. If you were discriminated against, even killed as a race doesn't make it right for you to be a nation based on one race.

Is it a Jewish state based upon religion? No, the father of Israel, David Ben-Gurion, was an avowed atheist.

So, what is the possibly definition of the Jewish state and why would anyone want to recognize that Israel is the Jewish state? Seriously, Bigsby.

What? Jewish state/Israel call it whatever the hell you want - the Jewish state was the bloody terminology you used. That country exists. What the hell has your above nonsense got to do with your question? If the Palestinians want peace with Israel, which was what your question was about (though it now seems to have been a pathetically childish attempt at a gotcha), then they will need to accept its existence. What part of that do you think makes me a zionist?

bgamall4 says

2. You need to care that the Rothschilds and big finance, including the Russian oligarchs, are funneling massive amounts of money towards Israel.

No, I don't need to care about your convoluted zionist conspiracy nonsense.

bgamall4 says

Maybe on number 1 but it sounds like you accept that the occupation is unlawful.

Sounds like? Of course I think the occupation of the West Bank is unlawful.

Bigsby says

It's not an issue of trusting them over this. You can use your eyes and brain and draw a conclusion from the information available to you. So do YOU believe those 3 buildings were brought down by demolition, that Sandy Hook and the Boston bombings were hoaxes...?

I remember on history channel there was a special about CIA few years back. And one of the "never executed" missions that was exposed, was flying a plane into a civilian building to promote and start a war with soviets. That made me very aware that our government is certainly has no problems killing their own citizens if they can get into a war they want.

And I'm well aware that if they want to conceal something, they'll do it very well. Our government doesn't half ass their schemes.

Bigsby says

2. I couldn't care less what the Rothschilds did or did not do.

They cost you a lot of money every year, indirect economic rent you pay for in every transaction. You should care.

Maybe his calendar was made by the same bunch of guys who did Obamacare website...