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Need Tourist advice, just do everything opposite of Edvard.
I suppose we are all offering opinions here, which is fine. But even when I first moved here I thought Fisherman's Wharf was cheesy and overly touristy.SFace says
sorry, who the hell goes wine tasting in lodi or Livermore, does that even sound right to you? Might as well just go to treasure island as there is a wine tasting warehouse there and save yourself the gas.
Guess you don't know much about wine do you? Some of the better Italian varietals I've had are out of Livermore. Livermore was also the first area in the country to grow Petite Sirah. In fact they've been making wine in the area since the 1860's. As far as Lodi, well some of the best Zinfandel in the country and perhaps world come from there. The reason is because for decades and decades the area was primarily a grape growing region supplying wineries. During prohibition many of the vines went dormant. Afterwards and in some cases decades afterwards the vines were trimmed and brought back. So in some cases the Zinfandel you can get up there are coming from 100 year old, and older vines. And that is why a great many of the wines there have an astronomical BRIC rating, yet are some of the most refined, smooth, and well-balanced wines in the state.
Yet another area that is off the map wine tasting wise is Plymouth CA. I've had some of the more interesting wines you'll find. Some of the vines there date back to the gold rush.
Sure- no doubt there are some excellent wines that come from Napa and Sonoma. But you're also going to be driving down the roads with hordes of tour buses, limos, people getting married, tourists, and so on. Additionally, the tasting fees are usually very high and so too are the prices of the wines. The reason of course if because its got the name recognition. Personally wine tasting to me is about relaxing out in the nice warm weather and getting to talk with people. Napa doesn't really afford that experience while many of the other areas I mentioned do. But what the hell? If others want to go to Napa... let em' That way the areas I mentioned will stay the way they are, which is fine with me.
David9
2014 Apr 8, 2:00am
Wow, no one mentioned Alcatraz or a boat ride in the Bay.
If you and your fiancé are feeling adventurous, at least as of several years ago there was at least one Straight sex club with a $40 entry fee.
(A couple took me there if you just had to know. ;-) )
New Renter
2014 Apr 8, 2:35am
Wow, no one mentioned Alcatraz
Yes he did
I discarded Alcatraz due to time constraints....
sorry, who the hell goes wine tasting in lodi or Livermore, does that even sound right to you?
I do and yes it does.
David9
2014 Apr 8, 2:45am
Yes he did
I stand corrected. I did not read the whole article.
A 1 hour boat ride which goes under the Golden Gate Bridge and around Alcatraz island might be nice, especially if there is fog and clouds.
rooemoore
2014 Apr 8, 3:30am
Or go down to crissy field (on a bike) and enjoy the most beautiful clean air of a big city in this world.
If only that were true.
zzyzzx
2014 Apr 8, 3:43am
Ripped off from this thread /?p=1232157 :
Bungee jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge ( bungee chord optional)
... its all the rage...
David9
2014 Apr 8, 3:45am
San Francisco has some great museums:
http://www.baycityguide.com/museums.html
The Asian Art Museum is quite impressive.
The San Francisco Museum of Modern Art I found more cutting edge than most.
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Go to the Mission and moon the Google bus!
No, go to the moon and Google the mission bus.
It's San Francisco, silly.
No, they will just yelp the restaurant reviews in san francisco on their google browser on their latest mobile device because despite their self proclaimed open mindedness and hipsterism, they are actually quite a conformist bunch....
Tenpoundbass
2014 Apr 8, 4:17am
If you must sit down, then my prefer choice is Bubba Gump, at least I know it is not a box of chocalate and you get the best view in all of Fisherman's wharf.
Personally I would rather sit in a locally sourced Tourist trap, than an international conglomerate of tourist trappers who are perched in every city in the world worth visiting, to snatch their money from their and take it back to their evil corporate lair.
You guys do know that Tom Hanks in character, doesn't actually own Bubba Gump right?
Yeah, definitely be careful about walking to the southwest on market st past powell st - the town will change instantly and I am not exagerrating. You may want to definitely take trolley #5 or bus 38 to the end of the line and check out the pacific ocean on great highway.
I encourage all the napa snobs to ignore livermore wineries - I want to continue to enjoy the $5 flights!
Ripped off from this thread /?p=1232157 :
Bungee jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge ( bungee chord optional)
... its all the rage...
Yeah. Its also very popular with all the locals who know what's what to go great white shark watching. dublin hillz says
I encourage all the napa snobs to ignore livermore wineries - I want to continue to enjoy the $5 flights!
Yes. In fact, now that I think of it I take back everything I said before. Its true. Napa is the only place to go for wine. Places like Livermore are as mentioned by a previous response- like warehouses. Its just that I am too uncultured to know any better. That works out for the Napa folks. It means more room for them.
rooemoore
2014 Apr 8, 5:13am
I encourage all the napa snobs to ignore livermore wineries - I want to continue to enjoy the $5 flights!
I think your secret is safe.
Seriously, I'm sure there are some very good Livermore wines, but comparing a visit there to the Napa/Sonoma valleys is absurd.
Seriously, I'm sure there are some very good Livermore wines, but comparing a visit there to the Napa/Sonoma valleys is absurd.
Why? Ever been in Livermore and/or Lodi? Its beautiful up there. The major difference is the types of people that the places attract. Honestly, I find more people who genuinely enjoy wine in Livermore than in Napa. In Napa its all about going because you're rich and you're "supposed" to go to Napa... because that's what you're supposed to do when you're rich.
Strategist
2014 Apr 8, 6:52am
Wow, no one mentioned Alcatraz or a boat ride in the Bay.
If you and your fiancé are feeling adventurous, at least as of several years ago there was at least one Straight sex club with a $40 entry fee.
(A couple took me there if you just had to know. ;-) )
We just have to know what you did next.
David9
2014 Apr 8, 7:06am
We just have to know what you did next.
Oh, now that is tempting. Not sure this is the right venue for a taste of San Francisco erotica. But thanks!
New Renter
2014 Apr 8, 8:22am
I encourage all the napa snobs to ignore livermore wineries - I want to continue to enjoy the $5 flights!
I think your secret is safe.
Seriously, I'm sure there are some very good Livermore wines, but comparing a visit there to the Napa/Sonoma valleys is absurd.
Depends on what you're looking for. As far as the wines go many Napa and Sonoma wineries get their grapes from lowly Lodi so if you really want to see where your wines come from go to Lodi.
rooemoore
2014 Apr 8, 11:41am
I find more people who genuinely enjoy wine in Livermore than in Napa.
I'll grant you that:
Y
2014 Apr 8, 12:43pm
Not to worry.
In that part of the county, anything you miss will be squeezed in for you....
So is there anything I'm missing that I should be squeezing in?
New Renter
2014 Apr 8, 1:29pm
I find more people who genuinely enjoy wine in Livermore than in Napa.
I'll grant you that:
So why are you showing an image of a Polish wino in Warsaw with a bottle of cheapass Polish fruit wine?
New Renter
2014 Apr 8, 1:30pm
Not to worry.
In that part of the county, anything you miss will be squeezed in for you....
So is there anything I'm missing that I should be squeezing in?
A man undoubtedly speaking from experience.
Y
2014 Apr 8, 1:47pm
Damn...guilty as charged...
Not to worry.
In that part of the county, anything you miss will be squeezed in for you....
So is there anything I'm missing that I should be squeezing in?
A man undoubtedly speaking from experience.
rooemoore
2014 Apr 8, 3:00pm
So why are you showing an image of a Polish wino in Warsaw with a bottle of cheapass Polish fruit wine?
Fixed it.
New Renter
2014 Apr 10, 3:04am
So why are you showing an image of a Polish wino in Warsaw with a bottle of cheapass Polish fruit wine?
Fixed it.
I see you have photoshop.
I encourage all the napa snobs to ignore livermore wineries - I want to continue to enjoy the $5 flights!
I think your secret is safe.
Seriously, I'm sure there are some very good Livermore wines, but comparing a visit there to the Napa/Sonoma valleys is absurd.
Depends on what you're looking for. As far as the wines go many Napa and Sonoma wineries get their grapes from lowly Lodi so if you really want to see where your wines come from go to Lodi.
And, sons of anarchy
If you must sit down, then my prefer choice is Bubba Gump, at least I know it is not a box of chocalate and you get the best view in all of Fisherman's wharf.
Hard to take you seriously with this one. If you want to go to the Bubba Gump Shrimp restaurant, go to the one in South Carolina or something, not SF.
I discarded Alcatraz due to time constraints
Alcatraz is actually worth doing. I assumed it'd be cheesy, but it wasn't. Bonus points if it's a time of year they allow you to view the rest of the island (forget when that is).
Best way to get to the game is to go to the station at Market and Powell and take the muni, correct? The family won't want to walk the whole way.
You can do that, yes. The T-Third goes right past the ball park. Most people coming from outside the city walk from Montgomery St. BART station to the park, but if you're already in the city, the T-Third works great.
If you're going to Sonoma or Napa and can't pick, I tend to vote Sonoma -- more relaxed, more like what Napa was like before Napa got insane. Napa's great if you want your wine from sales girls, instead of actual winery workers who know something about wine. Never been to Lodi for wine, but Livermore has some decent wine as people said.
Check out museums and restaurants too. Note that some could be closed on Monday, not sure.
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Visiting there for a brief bit on my vacation this summer, fiance and a 15 year old in tow. I've been in the bay area a few times, but never in SF proper...just Hayward, Berkley, and San Jose.
So I am totally unfamiliar with SF.
Staying in Union Square.
Arriving on a Saturday, probably will check out Fishermans Wharf for dinner/early evening.
Sunday I have tickets for Dodgers vs Giants(lol of course right). Probably will get there when the park opens just to check out the ballpark, roam around, get some autos, etc. Best way to get to the game is to go to the station at Market and Powell and take the muni, correct? The family won't want to walk the whole way. I'm guessing well be wiped out after the game so well probably go clean up at the hotel, have dinner, and wander around Union Square that night.
My main concern is monday. I'd like to check out some of the sights...Lombard Street, Golden Gate Bridge, etc. I'll have a car(were also going to the central coast and then Yosemite), but I'm super concerned about Monday traffic in the city...I don't want to use the car if well be moving 2 feet per hour. I would like to drive up into Golden Gate Natl Rec Area though if I can.
So is there anything I'm missing that I should be squeezing in? I discarded Alcatraz due to time constraints....but I'd like not to miss something important I'm overlooking.
Thanks for any advice :)