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Tenpoundbass
2014 May 11, 3:18am
There's no precedence for this, while plausible. Until the Myth Busters can place pig carcases on each floor of the Petra Buildings in Malasia and fly jet air liners into them, and document the effects.
This is all plausible sounding conjecture.
We all saw planes fly into the buildings. If anyone wanted to bring the towers down. They would rig the buildings with explosives, then fly panes into them. Seeing how you guys think that some culvert operation was able to get in and rig the two towers with explosives, then why not just push the button at 9am on 9-11 then claim it was devastating truck bomb.
I mean we all saw what they are capable of doing when done right, like the Oklahoma City bombing. The early 90's WTC truck bomb attempt was an amateurish failure.
97 floors is a long long long long way to fall, and add millions of tons of broken concrete and steal in a violent jolts and collapse floor by floor for 96 floors. And the whole act turns into a colossal vertical coffee grinder.
First floor collapses sending bodies and chunks of concrete and steel with it. It hits the floor below shattering the larger chunks of concrete into smaller bits, hits the next floor the large chunks that were under the smaller bits now break up. Repeat for 96 floors.
If you've ever smacked a piece of meat with a scallopini hammer,
you would know flesh isn't that resilient. And yes, for the best results place the meat in a plastic bag before striking, it sends meat fragments everywhere.
Aliens have been proven to be the culprits beyond any reasonable doubt. Who do you think invented chicken fried steak?
Tenpoundbass
2014 May 11, 4:23am
I can believe it as much I can believe that people were able to get into a building such as WTC prep the metal structure like chipping away concrete in key strategic places, and rig explosive. Working for over a month to do a job like that. All the while the tenants in the building could have never gotten any work done with the constant roaring, thumping and rattling that such work would have created.
I'm not saying that THIS government the same Legacy one that Obama frolics in with great Joy, wasn't capable of such a thing. I'm just think they would have done a lot of things differently. They certainly wouldn't have risked Spook operatives being over powered by ordinary citizens on the plane, and being worked over all the way back to the airport. One of them would have surely came clean...
"It was Bush, he told us to do it!"
Or do you guys believe the plane incident was just purely a coincidence where two evil wrong doers plotted a sinister act on the same day?
So which is it, I haven't wrapped my head around that stupid nagging part of this conspiracy.
What if the folks on the plane did get caught and the plot foiled. What do you do with a building rigged with explosives and no date to the prom?
Those are two separate risky plots, and are very redundants. If one fails then there's a lot left hanging that exposes the whole plot.
Like what if the explosives failed due to the jolt of the crashing Jets?
Surely the explosives would have been discovered eventually.
If this conspiracy theory was only that our CIA trained the 911 hijackers and were in on, because they wanted to break the protection of freedom that Americans clamored for. ANd this Terrorist act was just a plot to create what we have now for official national security, and politicians who can war monger on their own accord with out anyone's blessing. Then I would be right there with you, saying most definitely perhaps.
But the rigging explosives too. That just gets overkill and doesn't stand the muster of reason and logic.
But the rigging explosives too. That just gets overkill and doesn't stand the muster of reason and logic.
Logic and reason have no relevance to 9/11.
Aliens have been proven to be the culprits beyond any reasonable doubt. Who do you think invented chicken fried steak?
Don't be a dumbfuck. Open your eyes and look at the evidence.
Captain,
There was an active effort to make sure the 19 goat fuckers DIDN'T get caught in the run-up to the events. I'd suggest watching some of the videos of war crimes 9/11 YouTube channel. It may not answer all of your questions, but it will, no doubt, sow even more doubt regarding the legitimacy of the official story.
Bellingham Bill
2014 May 11, 10:07am
There was an active effort to make sure the 19 goat fuckers DIDN'T get caught in the run-up to the events
I'm open to the hypothesis that people in gov't security knew hijackers were in the country and wanted them to hijack some planes.
If this was the case, I don't think they expected the suicide part of the mission, just a repeat of 1980s tarmac situations somewhere.
Good TV, good for business.
"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon; that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile. All of this reporting about hijacking was about traditional hijacking."
Rice, 5/2002
Hijacked airliners as missiles were predicted in some Clancy novels a few years before 2001.
Tenpoundbass
2014 May 11, 11:24am
Country fried steak(Chuck wagon steak) and Onion Rings are two things that taste great in concept. But in truth, I'm never able to get past the third Onion ring, or a chuck wagon steak, and if the Chuck wagon steak isn't smothered in Country buttermilk gravy(which makes it something entirely different "Country Fried Steak").
Which I can't really finish either just because with the grits, biscuits, three fried eggs, and a cup of gravy over every thing. I'm already done half way through.
There was an active effort to make sure the 19 goat fuckers DIDN'T get caught in the run-up to the events
I'm open to the hypothesis that people in gov't security knew hijackers were in the country and wanted them to hijack some planes.
If this was the case, I don't think they expected the suicide part of the mission, just a repeat of 1980s tarmac situations somewhere.
Good TV, good for business.
"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon; that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile. All of this reporting about hijacking was about traditional hijacking."
Rice, 5/2002
You don't say, Ms. Cunnilingus Rice?
http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2010/07/norad-exercise-year-before-911.html
Fucking war criminal.
Hijacked airliners as missiles were predicted in some Clancy novels a few years before 2001.
and carry a Nuke... one made by a terrorist backed state... Libya, Syria or Iraq.
Interesting how suicide bombing by the Palestinian increased in 2001
long before 9/11.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
on't be a dumbfuck. Open your eyes and look at the evidence.
Thanks for the link. Funniest thing I've seen in a while. Interesting how they managed to tie every one on the planet into the 9/11 conspiracy. They missed the part about butterflies in China flapping their wings as part of the overall plot though. Is it still a conspiracy if everyone is part of it?
Two questions Bob:
Two questions professor.
Do you believe that unknown people spent months bringing in thousands of pounds of explosives and miles of wiring, ripped apart big chunks of the buildings to install it and not one of the thousands of people there every day noticed.
Are you a truther sock puppet or do you eally believe all those explosives and the wring survived being doused in hundreds of thousands of pounds of burning jet fuel and still managed to work perfectly.
A fire hot enough to weaken stieel seems much plausible to me. I've seen plenty of twisted hanging steel after ordinary fires so you can't say it's not possible for an ordinary fire to weaken steel enough to twist and sag. It happens all time.
John Bailo
2014 May 12, 2:07am
The best explanation I've heard -- one that doesn't resort to conspiracy but to criminality -- is that the concrete used to build the towers was highly substandard.
It's known that in NYC -- especially during the time period when these were built -- that any major project like this would be "uh, managed" by people who would take the money (Port Authority project) and cut corners.
One way is substandard concrete. Concrete can be watered down with all kinds of materials like plaster, sawdust and sand.
Well, what happens when you take a large open air cylinder with air flowing through it (once the windows blew out) that is not really solid concrete, but more like plasterboard (or gun powder really) and douse it with jet fuel and light it up?
The evidence points to explosives. You don't need to wring a building up to detonate it; perhaps radio detonators? If they can make black boxes to survive airliner impacts they can create explosive packages to withstand a planned impact.
Black boxes don't always survive. You are contradicting yourself. Was there an fire or wasn't there? I saw lots of fire on all the videos. Was that all fake too? Was everyone with a camera or video or cell phone part of the conspracy too? The radio controlled detonators and explosives survived the roaring fires and worked perfectly in all three buildings? Pretty amazing explosives. Magic explosives I would say.
How come you ignored the question of how all the explosives got into the buildings and got set at all the right points? Wired or radio controlled either way would have involved ripping open lots of walls and ceilings. Yet not one of the thousands of workers in the towers noticed anything. Magic explosives again. Or were the people in the towers part of the conspiaicy too. How did the leaders of the conspiracy convince them all to die for the cause?
This gets more and more complicated all the time. Back to my theory that everyone on the planet was in on the conspiracy. Or maybe the old adage the simplest explanation is usually correct works here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8edYhemleXc
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s5w6uZof00Your spouting old propaganda. The new talking point is to marginalize and ignore
So now we have new propaganda. Gee no one heard about the power down until last year. I wonder how it got missed for all those years with literally millions of people looking into 9/11? People have produced ticket stubs from the power down days showing they were on the observation deck in the middle of the "power down" of all floors above 50..
You do realize the tallest building ever brought down by explosives on 7th and houston took 4 months to place all the charges. Yet buildings 6 times as big were done in 24 hours. Plus all the mess made tearing out walls was cleaned up and repaired to the point where no one knew it was done.
Why is any weird illogical shit people can dream up is "evidence" to you? I'm sure I can find an interview with someone saying he saw aliens in the towers. That should be evidence enough that aliens did it don't you think?
People have produced ticket stubs from the power down days showing they were on the observation deck in the middle of the "power down" of all floors above 50..
Link? Or are you just making things up.
Unlike you I don't make things up. http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_power_down.html
tallest building ever brought down by explosives on 7th and houston took 4 months to place all the charges.
They should have started an office furnishing fire. That building would have come down before sunset.
Wouldn't have worked, the building was a completely different construction.
Here are a couple of reports detailing the construction. They have actual pictures and detailed analysis by actual engineers but no youtube so you may be in trouble on this one.
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html
http://www.aws.org/wj/supplement/WJ_2007_09_s263.pdf
Of course in your world that's not evidence. At least not real evidence like an unknown someone being interviewed by an unknown someone who just happens to remember 10 years later that the power was turned off for a day, even though none of the hundreds of people that would have been affected ever mentioned it. You simply can't get more compelling evidence than that. Except the people who saw the aliens of course.
I'm sorry I missed your evidence on how all the explosives got put into the building and how they all worked perfectly after spending hours in a raging fire. When will I be seeing that? Or will the sun be turning supernovea first?
Still waiting for pictures of fire twisted steel buildings you saw
You don't have google available or are you not smart enough to use it?
Still waiting for my evidence of how explosives got into the buildings. Still waiting, Still waiting.
I have an illustration of their theory:
What you don't have is anything saying why they are wrong. Still waiting, still waiting.
Tenpoundbass
2014 May 14, 1:02am
I should have been more specific; can you show me pictures of a steel framed building that collapsed from fire?
You can't because there were only 3 steel framed buildings that fell from fire alone (the official story) and they all happened on 9/11/2001.
No steal framed building has never caught fire and allowed to just burn uncontrollable like happened in 911. Perhaps because a vessel with hundreds of gallons of jet fuel has never slammed into one.
I ask you for pictures of fire twisted metal and you send me a link to pieces of the twin towers and this:
I should have been more specific; can you show me pictures of a steel framed building that collapsed from fire?
You can't because there were only 3 steel framed buildings that fell from fire alone (the official story) and they all happened on 9/11/2001.
You said steel does not get hot enough to deform from building fires alone. There were dozens of pictures of buildings that burned with twisted deformed steel that proves you wrong. To bad you can't keep up with your own trains of thought.
Still waiting for my evidence of how explosives got into the buildings
Maybe a hand truck? Again, I do not know how the 3 towers were demolished , I just don't believe the official story
Really big fucking hand truck. It would have taken thousands of pounds of explosives to bring down those buildings. If you don't know how the towers were demolished why do you keep saying they were imploded by explosives. Do you know what the word contradiction means?
So you are now admitting there is no plausible alternative theory on how it was done? Excellent, now we are making progress. I am the professor and I am a trutheraholic. See it's not hard.
So how can the official report be wrong if no one can come up with anything better. What evidence? Repeating impossible to be true bullshit doesn't make true or qualify as evidence, except of course to a sock puppet of the paranoid delusional set.
How come you ignored the question of how all the explosives got into the buildings and got set at all the right points? Wired or radio controlled either way would have involved ripping open lots of walls and ceilings. Yet not one of the thousands of workers in the towers noticed anything. Magic explosives again. Or were the people in the towers part of the conspiaicy too. How did the leaders of the conspiracy convince them all to die for the cause?
Little bobby,
watch this:
I hear its painful