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She dated a drug dealer and didn't learn the fat managing wonders of cigarettes, heroin, cocaine and speed?

This is clearly a woman who likes to be fat.

Tampajoe says

So, do you think it's OK to call a woman who works for you "Miss Piggy" or "Miss Housekeeping"? And call in the press corps to humiliate her while she exercised?

First, this election is about economics, and I'm not voting for a proven Neoliberal who is backed by all the asshole outsourcers, job exporters, IP Trolls who think they invented rounded edges, H1-B abusers, and bailed big banks. Yeah, they paid back the loans - by ramping up fees on consumer accounts, so ultimately the taxpayer was at risk for the loans, then paid the loans back for the banks with their own money in the form of bank fees.

Now here's the full quote.

She was the worst [Miss Universe] we ever had," Trump, 70, said of Machado, 39, on the Tuesday, September 27, episode of the Fox News morning show. "The worst. The absolute worst. She was impossible. She was a Miss Universe contestant, and ultimately a winner, who they had a tremendously difficult time with as Miss Universe."

He continued, "She was the winner, and she gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem. We had a real problem. Not only that, her attitude. We had a real problem with her."

What's funny is all the luvvies on Broadway and in Hollywood are obsessed with weight, and don't tell me most of the producers, choreographers, and others in Entertainment who are Huge Hillary Supporters have never gotten bitchy about a performer's weight gain while they are condemning Donald Trump.

It's especially rich coming from a Campaign that pushed a talking point about Trump being the fattest President since Taft. Not also Hillary's Weight was not revealed in her doctor's notes.

Finally, given Machado's history of poor judgement, violent threats against judges, "Wolf, Tell me what it's like to keeeeeeel a man" Vagina Tingles over Drug Lords, and general Drama Queen behavior quite outside of anything to do with Donald Trump, ragging on her weight is no big deal.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

First, this election is about economics, and I'm not voting for a proven Neoliberal who is backed by all the asshole outsourcers, job exporters, IP Trolls who think they invented rounded edges, H1-B abusers, and bailed big banks. Yeah, they paid back the loans - by ramping up fees on consumer accounts, so ultimately the taxpayer was at risk for the loans, then paid the loans back for the banks with their own money in the form of bank fees.

Even if you are voting purely for economic reasons--you would be voting for the largest supply side, trickle down economic experiment ever dumped on the US economy. You're OK with that?

I'm not going to argue the bank bailout. It sucked. But I find it mildly amusing that you think Trump would have done something better.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Now here's the full quote.

You mean to say here's "a" quote? Are you implying that he didn't call her "Miss Piggy" or "Miss Housekeeping"? That quote is nothing.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

What's funny is all the luvvies on Broadway and in Hollywood are obsessed with weight, and don't tell me most of the producers, choreographers, and others in Entertainment who are Huge Hillary Supporters have never gotten bitchy about a performer's weight gain while they are condemning Donald Trump.

You're missing the point, likely by design.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

It's especially rich coming from a Campaign that pushed a talking point about Trump being the fattest President since Taft. Not also Hillary's Weight was not revealed in her doctor's notes.

They are? I've never seen that.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Finally, given Machado's history of poor judgement, violent threats against judges, "Wolf, Tell me what it's like to keeeeeeel a man" Vagina Tingles over Drug Lords, and general Drama Queen behavior quite outside of anything to do with Donald Trump, ragging on her weight is no big deal.

And we're back to square one. Blame the victim. False equivalencies.

Even if you are voting purely for economic reasons--you would be voting for the largest supply side, trickle down economic experiment ever dumped on the US economy. You're OK with that?

I'm not going to argue the bank bailout. It sucked. But I find it mildly amusing that you think Trump would have done something better.

Right now we're 8 years from the Trough of the Great Recession and Median Incomes adjusted for inflation are still lower than 15 years ago. That can't be blamed on "Developed Country growth in slower." since we're talking about merely clawing back to past levels, not entirely new growth. I am NOT arguing for supply side, I am arguing for Demand side. A man who proposes to bring back US Manufacturing by threat of the All-American "Hamiltonian System" of Tariffs that served us well since the dawn of the Republic" is a demand sider. Manufacturing jobs not only pay better than Dead-end Service Jobs, but they put pressure on Service Industry to raise wages as they compete with Service for un/semi skilled workers.

The bottom 2/5th of this country have done shittily, and are far worse off than they were in the 60s and 70s (Yet somehow there is a shortage of unskilled labor that requires millions of immigrants? LOL!). The US has had a job creation profile of a third world tourism and resource-extraction dependent country for decades now.

Only manufacturing can provide jobs in the quantity to raise wages and bring back the American Dream.

Tampajoe says

You're missing the point, likely by design.

No, I raised a cogent point that many of Hillary's Entertainment Industry backers have no tolerance for weight gain in Performers.

Tampajoe says

They are? I've never seen that.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/david-plouffe-trump-is-the-heaviest-presidential-candidate-since-taft/

Tampajoe says

And we're back to square one. Blame the victim. False equivalencies.

She's not a victim. Did Trump force feed her? Is she not an autonomous adult human being?

If it's okay to call an overweight man Fat, why not an overweight woman fat?

Tampajoe says

IP Trolls who think they invented rounded edges,

Can you imagine?!

These are the same assholes that lecture people about intelligence.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

It's especially rich coming from a Campaign that pushed a talking point about Trump being the fattest President since Taft. Not also Hillary's Weight was not revealed in her doctor's notes.

You know that they were just trying to goad him into calling HRC fat. The fact that he hasn't is testament to the fact that he knows it is politically unacceptable. That's why he nearly shit himself when HRC brought up miss piggy housekeeping in the debate.

Hillary called Monica Lewinsky "Narcissistic Loony Toon"
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-monica-lewinsky-a-narcissistic-loony-toon/

Lewinsky responds:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2641878/Her-impulse-blame-woman-Monica-Lewinsky-lashes-against-Hillarys-narcissistic-loony-toon-comment-reveals-fears-Clinton-run.html

Threatened all his accusers:

“I think we’re going to find some other things. And I think that when all of this is put into context, and we really look at the people involved here, look at their motivations and look at their backgrounds, look at their past behavior, some folks are going to have a lot to answer for.”

And of course this famous video:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-2016-60-minutes-1992-214275

And her spending of $100,000 before and during the 1992 Campaign to get affidavits from Bill's girls that they never slept with him:

According to Carl Bernstein’s A Woman in Charge, as her husband prepared to run for president, she pushed to get sworn statements from women he’d been rumored to have been involved with, statements in which they were supposed to say they’d had no relationship with him. She even interviewed one of these women herself, at her law firm. She also led efforts to undermine Gennifer Flowers, whom she referred to as “trailer trash.”

PS Hillary didn't give up East Coast opportunities to go to Arkansas with Bill. She FAILED the DC Bar, and THEN BIll got her a job as a law professor where he worked through his connections.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

I am arguing for Demand side

Donald's fiscal policy is supply side all the way.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Only manufacturing can provide jobs in the quantity to raise wages and bring back the American Dream.

I agree that we need to raise wages, but tariffs aren't the end-all, be-all. Automation is at least as responsible for manufacturing job losses as free trade. Probably more. Tariffs do nothing to recapture those jobs. And automation shows no signs of slowing down. Eventually, the country is going to have to find a way to deal with this reality.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

No, I raised a cogent point that many of Hillary's Entertainment Industry backers have no tolerance for weight gain in Performers

And none of those people are running for President.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/david-plouffe-trump-is-the-heaviest-presidential-candidate-since-taft/

Mr. Plouffe isn't part of the campaign. And his comment was made in response to the Trump campaigns questioning of Hillary's fitness for office. They were hardly "pushing" it.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

She's not a victim. Did Trump force feed her? Is she not an autonomous adult human being?

If it's okay to call an overweight man Fat, why not an overweight woman fat?

Is it also OK to call a Hispanic woman "Miss Housekeeping"? Or to call in a horde of reporters to watch you exercise?

So, your next post is rehashing Bill's infidelities? You really are on the Trump payroll--this is today's talking point, isn't it? So, Clinton's husband having an affair somehow disqualifies her for being President? Is that the idea?

Tampajoe says

Donald's fiscal policy is supply side all the way.

Nope. Hillary's easy money, wage destruction via mass immigration, H1B and now "Auto-Green Card" for foreign STEM graduates is supply side.

Tampajoe says

I agree that we need to raise wages, but tariffs aren't the end-all, be-all. Automation is at least as responsible for manufacturing job losses as free trade. Probably more. Tariffs do nothing to recapture those jobs. And automation shows no signs of slowing down. Eventually, the country is going to have to find a way to deal with this reality.

Huge myth. Go check out the massive Chinese factories, huge numbers of laborers. It's far better to have 1000 car factory workers in a highly automated plant than 0. Also, highly automated plants need Electrical and Mechanical Engineers in droves. If those plants are in China it creates practically no US jobs.

Tampajoe says

And none of those people are running for President.

They back Hillary almost to a man.

Tampajoe says

Mr. Plouffe isn't part of the campaign. And his comment was made in response to the Trump campaigns questioning of Hillary's fitness for office. They were hardly "pushing" it.

AKA Campaign Surrogate. Why wasn't Hillary's Weight listed in her recent Doctor's Note? Sudden Weight gain is a sign of serious health problems.

Tampajoe says

Is it also OK to call a Hispanic woman "Miss Housekeeping"? Or to call in a horde of reporters to watch you exercise?

Played a stereotypical "Fat but Nice Gal" in "My Fat Friend in 2012. It's not good to push stereotypes.

www.youtube.com/embed/oDPeWIXissM

Being fat is a stereotype of Housekeepers, be they White, Black, or whatever.

Legal Papers signed by Machado prove the father is Alvarez the Drug Dealer, as she denied in the press. What else is she lying about?

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Nope. Hillary's easy money, wage destruction via mass immigration, H1B and now "Auto-Green Card" for foreign STEM graduates is supply side.

OK--let's slow down here. Can we focus on Trump's fiscal policy? Do you agree his is the biggest supply side, trickle down economic candidate since Reagan? (no need to mention Clinton here)

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Huge myth. Go check out the massive Chinese factories, huge numbers of laborers. It's far better to have 1000 car factory workers in a highly automated plant than 0. Also, highly automated plants need Electrical and Mechanical Engineers in droves. If those plants are in China it creates practically no US jobs.

Bullshit. No myth. There have been many, many studies to show that automation has killed more jobs than free trade. I think tariffs are a good idea, but it's no panacea.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Being fat is a stereotype of Housekeepers, be they White, Black, or whatever.

hahaha. So, you think the comment Miss Housekeeper was in reference to her weight and not her race?

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Legal Papers signed by Machado prove the father is Alvarez the Drug Dealer, as she denied in the press. What else is she lying about?

Is anyone from the Trump campaign saying she's is lying? Trump has admitted everything she says is true, hasn't he?

YesYNot says

Oh, yeah. We were talking about the 50 yr old Trump's public shaming of a teenager by calling her a piggy housekeeper who likes to eat too much and making her exercise in front of a media panel.

Oh, FFS, we are not talking about some regular teenager. She entered a beauty contest in order to be judged for her physical appearance. Then won the title, which gives her fame, money, but also carries obligations (people have invested in her appearance).

FP says

Oh, FFS, we are not talking about some regular teenager. She entered a beauty contest in order to be judged for her physical appearance. Then won the title, which gives her fame, money, but also carries obligations (people have invested in her appearance).

And you seriously can't think of a better way to handle it, as a leader of an organization, than Trump's public shaming of her?

Well, I guess we can rule out ANY type of management career for you losers!

truth will find you says

And you seriously can't think of a better way to handle it, as a leader of an organization, than Trump's public shaming of her?

Beyond the point idiot.

FP says

Beyond the point idiot.

No, he pretty much nailed it.

Liberals whining about shaming anything is fucking hilarious.

Hey Libbies this is one fight you wont get anything out of. I guaran-fucking-tee it.

It's all of the Liberal shamming that has America the REAL Americans anyway in Trump's back pocket.

He promises to bring you evil petty sniveling shits to heel.

Stop making us laugh at your fake butt hurt.

Tampajoe says

Is anyone from the Trump campaign saying she's is lying? Trump has admitted everything she says is true, hasn't he?

Who cares? Only people who want to distract from Economic issues where Hillary represents the failed status quo.

* Drove a getaway car from a crime scene
* Threatened a Judge with Violence
* Had a Drug Lord's Baby
* Cheated on her Fiance on TV

* Somebody called her fat in direct relation to her job as a beauty queen.

If you don't think any Hillary-backing Fashion Designer, Modelling Firm Operator, Broadway Producer, etc. has ever made fun of an actress, model or showgirl who showed up fat to a contest or performance, I have a bridge to sell, real cheap.

"You just get off my stage, Thunderthighs! This ain't a twerking contest. Lance, find me another girl. You are sooooo outta here, honey."

Furthermore, if some Boxer got all pissy on live TV, "Humilated" in front of the world when they told him he couldn't compete in a weight class and his manager or bout organizers got pissed about having to cancel/delay/change the program and called him "Fatty", we'd laugh at him.

Why special female privilege? She's in the kitchen by her own volition, and complaining about the heat? Gimme a break.

"Let me guess, quadruplets?"

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Who cares?

I figured you must, because you made a big point about how she has lied in the past. I assumed that you mean to imply that she might be lying now. If not, why did you go to all the trouble to bring up these incidents from her past? And continue to do so...

Tampajoe says

I figured you must, because you made a big point about how she has lied in the past. I assumed that you mean to imply that she might be lying now. If not, why did you go to all the trouble to bring up these incidents from her past? And continue to do so...

That's not my point. My point is this is a drama queen who makes crap decisions, and craves attention, and I'm rejecting the "Freedom without Responsibility Feminism" claim that women have special privileges when it comes to weight issues, even when they are working directly in an industry that revolves around beauty. People should ignore her ass.

People would laugh at a wrestler who went "Boo hoo hoo" that his coach called him a fatty when he fattened himself out of a certain weight class where he was dominating.

She was a shitty employee who didn't do her job. Nobody kidnapped this woman and forced her to be a beauty queen.

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

That's not my point. My point is this is a drama queen who makes crap decisions, and craves attention, and I'm rejecting the "Freedom without Responsibility Feminism" claim that women have special privileges when it comes to weight issues, even when they are working directly in an industry that revolves around beauty. People should ignore her ass.

People would laugh at a wrestler who went "Boo hoo hoo" that his coach called him a fatty when he fattened himself out of a certain weight class where he was dominating.

She was a shitty employee who didn't do her job. Nobody kidnapped this woman and forced her to be a beauty queen.

But yet you still miss the point. The real issue is Trump's temperament and how he deals with people. You want the leader of the free word to be someone so petty and vengeful that he publicly humiliates one of his employees on national TV because she was struggling at work? You don't think he should have handled this issue differently?

What's he going to do when Paul Ryan votes differently than he wanted/expected on a farm bill? Or when the Israeli PM screws him over?

Tampajoe says

. The real issue is Trump's temperament and how he deals with people.

Here's the video of her in the weight room. Tell me this isn't being totally supportive and showing confidence in his employee.
www.youtube.com/embed/PpXsAoXZIMg

He sure didn't shame her "in the weight room" on TV in this video.

Nor on this one
www.youtube.com/embed/56lW8MJjHeQ

Tampajoe says

The real issue is Trump's temperament and how he deals with people.

Ah, the linguistic killshot he introduced in the debates. Just you wait. Do you think hiring PI's to smear your husband's lovers is good temperament? Her temperament is legendary.

And it shows itself in policy. She's the bellicose mad bomber. She's never opposed a military intervention. She will keep up a lie even in the face of video evidence, as witnessed by the Bosnia Sniper Story.

www.youtube.com/embed/rZHO1vo762c

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Ah, the linguistic killshot he introduced in the debates. Just you wait. Do you think hiring PI's to smear your husband's lovers is good temperament? Her temperament is legendary.

And it shows itself in policy. She's the bellicose mad bomber. She's never opposed a military intervention. She will keep up a lie even in the face of video evidence, as witnessed by the Bosnia Sniper Story.

Except we were talking about Trump's temperament, not Hillary's.

Thanks for that old video of Trump. Did you see her face when he was saying she was the most beautiful woman in the world, when he saw her at the competition? I bet ol Donny tapped that. If not, she sure wished he would have.

This whole narrative that Trump is so mean and scary, is wierd. And creepy, that so many have bought into it. Propaganda works

errc says

This whole narrative that Trump is so mean and scary, is wierd. And creepy, that so many have bought into it. Propaganda works

Except that's not the narrative at all. The narrative is that he's petty, egocentric, and small minded.

Tampajoe says

Except we were talking about Trump's temperament, not Hillary's.

Why can't we discuss Hillary's temperament? Why do Hillary supporters always want to bring up cultural/social issues of limited actual impact, instead of Bread and Butter issues like Economics, Inequality, Tax Evasion, One-sided Trade, and War?

errc says

And creepy, that so many have bought into it. Propaganda works

How many people arsed themselves to see the raw footage, versus how many just went with the narrative told to them by a newsreader or pundit?

Tampajoe says

Except that's not the narrative at all. The narrative is that he's petty, egocentric, and small minded.

Of course he's ego centric. So is Hillary. So why not talk about solutions and how the economic and foreign policies of the last 20 years have failed to produce results?

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

Why can't we discuss Hillary's temperament? Why do Hillary supporters always want to bring up cultural/social issues of limited actual impact, instead of Bread and Butter issues like Economics, Inequality, Tax Evasion, One-sided Trade, and War?

First--I'm not a Hillary supporter. Second---we can discuss Hillary's temperament, but the post you were responding to was about Trump. Why is it that Trump supporters are incapable of discussing their candidate? They always respond with how bad the other candidate is.

And by all means, let's talk about economics, inequality tax evasion, trade, and war. How about we begin with Trump's tax plan? Do you agree that it will cause inequality to grow giving huge breaks to the 1% while screwing over the working man who he supposedly is going to help?

thunderlips11 is deplorable says

So why not talk about solutions and how the economic and foreign policies of the last 20 years have failed to produce results?

I'd love to. What is Trump's answer to the Middle East? How is he going to handle Iran? What changes is he going to make to foreign policy? How is he going to handle ISIS?

Tampajoe says

The real issue is Trump's temperament and how he deals with people.

Incidentally, if Steve Jobs shamed a male software engineer (to the point of driving him to tears), many would admire his capacity to push his people hard and get them to do things they themselves didn't know they could do.

At the same time, once you start exposing women like pieces of meat on a stage, you've already crossed some kind of line into indignity. To the extent these women are complicit of it, feel proud of their bodies and identify with it, they have already willingly crossed that line.

So it's not that Trump is a worse a-hole than Steve Jobs was, it's that he chose to work in the undignified circus of show business. The guy is all about sleazy salesmanship and appearances where Steve Jobs was at least going for some kind of human achievement.

errc says

I bet ol Donny tapped that. If not, she sure wished he would have.

well, I guess we see why you keep supporting him. Since you are a complete impotent whiny millenial pussy, you are using him as your alpha fantasy.

"slandering trump" -- ok dumbfuck, you don't know that truth is a complete defense to a slander charge?

#triggered

http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-daughter-tiffany-body-daily-show

Donald Drumpf raised eyebrows when he once joked, "if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I would be dating her."

Turns out, it wasn't his first time down that road.

A clip The Daily Show dug up from a 1994 episode of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous shows Drumpf making a suggestive comment about his younger daughter Tiffany's body – when she was just 1 year old.

It happened after host Robin Leach asked Drumpf and his then-wife Marla Maples what attributes their infant daughter inherited from her parents.

"I think that she's got a lot of Marla, she's really a beautiful baby," Drumpf said. "She's got Marla's legs. We don't know whether or not she's got this part yet but time will tell," he added, holding his hands in front of his chest to represent breasts.

gsr says

"I think that she's got a lot of Marla, she's really a beautiful baby," Drumpf said. "She's got Marla's legs. We don't know whether or not she's got this part yet but time will tell," he added, holding his hands in front of his chest to represent breasts.

You must be a pervert to find something improper behind a joke like this.

FP says

gsr says

"I think that she's got a lot of Marla, she's really a beautiful baby," Drumpf said. "She's got Marla's legs. We don't know whether or not she's got this part yet but time will tell," he added, holding his hands in front of his chest to represent breasts.

You must be a pervert to find something improper behind a joke like this.

I despise donald, but that sounds like nothing to take serious umbrage to.

More telling, is that his only concern is whether or not his daughter is hot; since that is all that makes women of value in his world, and that is all he hopes she gets from her mom, and her only feature of value...

SharingMyFartsWithMyOwnNose - You're a real fucking hypocrite.

When are you going to address this?