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Heraclitusstudent says

Once again, you are blaming voters who smelled for a crack in the system and went for it, rather than blaming the obvious disconnect on the elites.

It's always the leadership responsibility.

For people who are already in the ditch, the downside is more limited than you may think. What do they care if the institutions, the economy, or the rest of the world?

The poor folks are the same ones who previously supported abolition of unions and supported right to work states in the south that further weakened the unions. And Trump is a supporter of right to work approach as well. Vast majority of unions went against him. He is no friend of the working man. For the sake of the intellectual honesty, you must admit that this whole charade reeked of culture war way more than economics.

Lol holy crap, dude you're losing it

Relax

I agree with errc, jazz has been extremely triggly lately. He's really hyperventilating over this election! How about we start evaluating this German magazine cover by examining who owns said magazine and what their possible stake in the US election might be? I am betting it's a hugely wealthy oligarch whose pet projects and investments stand to lose from better trade deals.

#WashedUpPost

Where's the personal attacks? Hell I've stood up for you in the past. Don't forget to breathe

Sore Losers, hoping to do work in such bad faith that those that lost the Democratic Election would happy to send the US into the abyss that just a week prior, the Dems were swearing that they would prevent.

Heres a section from the Manifesto of the leader of the Regressive Democratic leader Alinsky:

The first step in community organization is community disorganization.

The organizer… must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent; provide a channel into which the people can angrily pour their frustrations… you must agitate to the point of conflict.

The world is better off without Ben Carson in the government.

and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them.

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Not I. It's just in my nature to defend the most defenseless in the room. But it takes a strong heart, which is why you'll never hear me label myself a liberal elitist.

What about Monica Crowley? Will she have a role? Ainsley Earhardt?

#HottieCabinet

This is only to be expected when the Electorate decided the old GOP was no longer serving their interests. The old GOPe is demanding seats at a table when Trump was elected NOT to be a New Cold Warrior. Eliot Cohen is a neocon NeverTrump, so what he says should be filtered knowing his biases.

Meanwhile Democratic party is so far up the River in Egypt, they're almost at the Cataracts right now.

Answer me this: Why did God make Republican women look more fair?

Entitlemented says

NAFTA plunged the US into a job vacuum, sucking out so many jobs that people can hardly remember inventing the Telephone, Transistor, Car, Assembly line.

Yup. The way neoliberal propaganda has been, it's like ordinary people couldn't afford cars, telephones, or radios back when they were made in the USA.

"Until MFN for China came around, a touch-tone phone cost $300!!!!"

Ben Carson didn't want a post != was hired and then left in a huff shortly after.

Given the NYT's track record, I'm taking their claims with a big shovel of salt.

We're not talking about a monochrome foreign policy that largely continues the same neolib-neocon stuff regardless of whether a GOPe or Neoliberal Democrat is elected.

This isn't like Obama appointing all the Wall Street Insiders immediately after being elected on a reform platform and then SURPRISE! not a single banker went to jail and banks were let off with wristslap fines. Eric Holder was key in pardoning Marc Rich.

dublin hillz says

He is no friend of the working man. For the sake of the intellectual honesty, you must admit that this whole charade reeked of culture war way more than economics.

We don't know what is going to come out of Trump. Looks like maybe a Bush2 but who knows.
JFK said something about those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable.
Let's hope it works, for our common sake.

Harris had this metaphor: We are in the back of the plane, the pilot died, and somehow Trump made in into the cockpit and is now flying the plane. Of course he has no experience flying planes, but will now attempt a landing. People in the back of the planes make fun of how incompetent he is.

"Waaaah!!! I didn't get a job."

dublin hillz says

The poor folks are the same ones who previously supported abolition of unions and supported right to work states in the south that further weakened the unions. And Trump is a supporter of right to work approach as well. Vast majority of unions went against him. He is no friend of the working man. For the sake of the intellectual honesty, you must admit that this whole charade reeked of culture war way more than economics.

That's absolutely untrue.

Trump won the rust belt largely because of Union workers, for whom Hillary had nothing to say.

The Republicans haven't won Wisconsin and Michigan since what, 1988?

While the probabilities are biased toward risks, there are potentially good things that can still come out of this.
Sometime things don't change until something goes really bad.
The status quo is always less risky in the short term and more risky in the long term.

Garrison Keillor still anti-Gay Marriage?

Germans: We don't want any responsibility for the Euro or Debt Forgiveness or Financing our Customers, but the rest of you had better take your share of the migrants we unilaterally welcomed into Europe and keep buying our goods.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Trump won the rust belt largely because of Union workers, for whom Hillary had nothing to say.

The Republicans haven't won Wisconsin and Michigan since what, 1988?

The union leadership did not endorse him because they looked at his history and realized that he supports right to work laws. The rank and file fell for demagoguery and voted against self interest.

I want to see Trigglypuff take out Trumpligula with a good Sumo Stomping Rampage and wipe that shit eating grin off his face.

Rew says

No worries! Obama is going to give Trump extra after school tutoring. Trump should only need a two hour session. Being president ish zuper easy and T-Rump is bigly shmart. (wink)

It can't be that bad if a community organizer and one-term senator didn't fuck it all up in 8 years.

Yes, Monica Crowley's twins will have a place as facial battering rams in the New Trumpligula Order.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

"Waaaah!!! I didn't get a job."

You are helping prove this line ...

“They think of these jobs as lollipops,” Mr. Cohen said. “I think we’re on the verge of a crisis here.”

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

It can't be that bad if a community organizer and one-term senator didn't fuck it all up in 8 years.

Obama is far more remarkable than you give him credit for.

I like Garrison Keillor but he is flat wrong in the editorial. That's fine, we all have the right to be wrong, as was proved by the media and Hillary in this election. Reading through the piece Garrison is doing his own 'butt-hurt' however I never considered him one of the 'liberal elite' that he labels himself in this piece. He needs to go back to the Prairie Home Companion roots and get back in touch with 'the people' and leave the elite snobs.

Imagine yourself in Trump tower with protests in the street right outside and on your TV showing them in cities across the nation. There is infighting and jockeying within your team for positions, and as you try and build a new main administration, people are walking away for positions. What must that feel like?

Donald, I don't think we are 'sending you our best people' anymore.

Ranina ranina says

Libfucks have a hard time coming to grip with honesty in politics. It's just not the way they were raised...

Are you suggesting the presidency is easier than a more narrowly focused cabinet position? Are you suggesting the Presidency is simply a ceremonial and a figure head position? Have you seen the executive power creep of the past four decades or more?

Carson just crazily said he doesn't want a position on the administration, because he would do damage. Recap : Carson ran for President in the primaries.

Presidential position these days is ceremonial at best.
Cabineteers run the show on a daily basis..

Rew says

Carson just crazily said he doesn't want a position on the administration, because he would do damage. Recap : Carson ran for President in the primaries.

Keillor talks about what Dems can do while Trump's in office.
They can do all that &
BOYCOTT ALL Rep/Con/Teas too.

Ranina ranina says

Presidential position these days is ceremonial at best.

I see you have made the transition to the Post-fact era well.

You don't think trump will be a ceremonial president?
He isn't going to grind over all the shit that occurs.

Rew says

Ranina ranina says

Presidential position these days is ceremonial at best.

I see you have made the transition to the Post-fact era well.

Ranina ranina says

I see you have made the transition to the Post-fact era well.

Fact Checking 2016: Taking my opponents absolutely literally but not seriously.

Al Capone: "Elliot Ness' repeated investigations ruined my chances of a future political career - even in Chicago!!"

How come IHLlary didn't release the Kraken hordes of IHL blue meanies in armors of political correctness to take back the election? She abused us of the spectacle we deserved, and just left us a tsunami of panty waisted, hankie twisting sobbing weenies.

Ranina ranina says

You don't think trump will be a ceremonial president?

I absolutely do and that's not normal. That's all Trump is capable of right now though. That doesn't mean that is all that position is capable of. It certainly wasn't ceremonial with Obama, Clinton, Bush, Regan ... and on and on ...

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Taking my opponents absolutely literally but not seriously.

Anyone claiming they can interpret what Trump means through the outright lies and inflammatory rhetoric is deluding themselves.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

He managed to turn a golden opportunity to roll back Pro-Wall Street Regulations and decided to push a massive Health Care Company Subsidy instead.

A good opportunity to delude yourself on Trump here now. You think Trump isn't this position to the extreme? You think this is the change he brings?

Nothing says "Placating the White Working Class" than picking a Muslim as the new head of the DNC.

Rew says

Anyone claiming they can interpret what Trump means through the outright lies and inflammatory rhetoric is deluding themselves.

"You got to have borders."
"Law and Order"
"Wouldn't it be great to get along with Russia."

Rew says

A good opportunity to delude yourself on Trump here now. You think Trump isn't this position to the extreme? You think this is the change he brings?

I've said this for a long time, long before Trump was even dreamed of. And I've hated Hillary forever.

Obama isn't a horrible president, he was a Mediocre one who preserved the Status Quo when a great opportunity to fix the system was presented. Had the Republicans seriously shot down real Wall Steet reform loudly backed by the President, it would have been the hammer with which the Democrats would have swept back into power 2010-2012.

It's time we had a President who sucked bankruptcy lawyer cock instead of bankster cock.

dublin hillz says

voted against self interest.

Not clear it is so. As a minimum they sent a message that their vote should not be taken for granted. The democrats need to do something to earn it. This may pay off eventually.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Obama isn't a horrible president, he was a Mediocre one who preserved the Status Quo when a great opportunity to fix the system was presented.

The stock market was flat for 2 years with ZIRP, we have the Russians in Ukraine, ISIS is everywhere, more missile launches in Korea, and China rattling their sabres.

If a president who brings the US to the precipice of socialism, has flat GDP, and has us on the brink of 2-3 WWs is a good dude, what is you idea of bad POTHEADUS?

SO Much Winning. It's amazing how much power the people had, and how it took a full court MSM press to beat them down as deplorable racist, sexist, misgynists who deserved everything they got all these years. Until Trump pointed out the Pundits have no Clothes.

I wonder how many thunderously incorrect pundits, like with the Bush Era Neocons, will be allowed to skate along at their jobs.

"You had one job pundit, tell a narrative that turned out to be somewhat more correct than wrong. You failed!"

Entitlemented says

If a president who brings the US to the precipice of socialism, has flat GDP, and has us on the brink of 2-3 WWs is a good dude, what is you idea of bad POTHEADUS?

I actually believe Obama was keeping Hillary chained down as Sec of State. I feared that Hillary would unleash the dogs of war.

(However, I also believe Obama has sympathy for political Islam of the Muslim Brotherhood/Hizb ul-Tahrir variety).