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rando says

If global warming continues, we're all going to need to move to Canada permanently!

It's not the heat. It's the tides.

Sorry, but I live in those places and that's a shit ton of real estate being wiped out. If the company I work for has to move because all the land around it is now occupied by fishes, is everyone in the company going to move with it? What about all the small businesses like laundromats, bars, restaurants, night clubs, clothing outlets, etc. that will simply cease to exist. Their employees will have to move elsewhere when their houses are literally under water, but those jobs won't magic to the former employee's new location.

There are very real economic consequences of sea-level rises, and that's just one aspect of climate change.

Losing land, especially the most economically productive land, is highly disruptive to the economy and very costly. Even ignoring the ethical and environmental concerns, the mere financial problems of climate change would make any sensible person terrified.

And in the long run, it gets even worse. It will cost orders of magnitudes more to terraform the Earth back to it's state in the 1970s then it would to simply not fuck up the Earth in the first place. Polluting the Earth makes no economic sense. It's short-term greed causing long-term economic devastation. There's a reason we don't let people throw their garbage out on the street. It's far more economical to pack that trash into nice little bags that are systematically removed and processed. The same goes for all waste products. Pollution is basically trash being thrown out on the street disrupting traffic and making the entire city of Earth less productive and a less enjoyable place to live.

Well, we'll never know. What we do know is that Trump has definitely proven that he IS for more Corporatism!!

Forget Glass Steagall now, bitch.

Looks like Trumpligula is getting the strong finger poke in the chest from the shadow government.

joeyjojojunior says

Well, we'll never know. What we do know is that Trump has definitely proven that he IS for more Corporatism!!

Obama proved that 8 years ago, when the campaign advisers we were promised would be put in positions of power were shunted off to powerless White Paper Committees while Citigroup picked the Cabinet.

"Obama proved that 8 years ago, when the campaign advisers we were promised would be put in positions of power were shunted off to powerless White Paper Committees while Citigroup picked the Cabinet."

And you thought you were getting something different with Trump. Bwahahaha

joeyjojojunior says

And you thought you were getting something different with Trump. Bwahahaha

And you thought it would be much better with a Corporate Clinton, bwwahahahahahahah

"And you thought it would be much better with a Corporate Clinton, bwwahahahahahahah"

I did? Not that I recall.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

And you thought it would be much better with a Corporate Clinton

Trump campaigned on change and draining the swamp and Clitlicker is the Wall Street puppet, ar oh ef fucking el!

The sock puppet hand fits comfortably in either candidate, with the bird finger in perpetual salute to the electorate.

The American Economy's poop chute is lubed and ready for GoSacks and Wall Street!

Oh, it's catastrophic again, give me all your money and control of the energy industry and I will kiss and make it all better.

Holy fuck. You fucking BS environmentalists, who love the earth, but hate plants, animals, and people are screaming like banshees about ice melting that will destroy us in a 100 years!!?? Forget about the record number of carcinogens introduced into the world during the 21st century. Forget about the record pesticide use that's decimating bee populations who are ONLY needed to keep 80% of the worlds plants alive. Forget about GMO crops that are cross pollinating/polluting all wheat, soy, and corn crops, and carry gene altering, carcinogens. Forget about non-biodegradable plastics courtesy of DuPont that have created an island of trash in our oceans that will never go away. Forget about BP dumping a billion gallons of oil into the gulf, causing sea life mutations. Forget about the military industrial complex turing the Middle East into one giant toxic bomb crater. IT'S THE FUCKING ICE MELTING!! THAT'S WHAT WILL KILL US ALL!!!!

Change you can believe in

Deja Vu

KILL THE PEOPLE! KILL THEM ALL! THE VILE SWARMING CONTAMINATION OF THE PURE EARTH!

Judging by the number of billionaires in this gov, it may be a little less corporatism and a little more plutocracy.
Most of the time we won't tell the difference.
Prepare your bucket of Vaseline.

NuttBoxer says

Forget about the record number of carcinogens introduced into the world during the 21st century....

Those other environmental problems are very tangible and easy to see. With global warming the response to pollution is delayed and harder to see. It also has much more catastrophic risk. There are clearly nonlinear feedback loops causing CO2 and temp to fluctuate together over the long haul. There is a big time delay (on our time scale) due to the time it takes CO2 to diffuse out of the oceans. The lag in CO2 levels is explained by this. There is a good video at the bottom of the page here: http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm
What is not in the video is that radiation is a higher order item that kicks in at higher temperatures, and is why the whole thing doesn't continue as an exponential increase in temperature. Common sense and intuition don't tell us what will happen with our huge CO2 injection. That's what science is for. It's a high risk game we are playing.

One amendment down, 26 to go!

FP says

Apparently burning the flag it is not a litmus test for personal freedom.

It doesn't have to be. It is still a major factor in how free a country is.

A country whose government uses violence and the threat of violence to stop people from burning symbols of state power is not a country that is free. Such an assault against liberty is far more Unamerican than communism ever was. It is antithetical to all of western philosophy.

Anyone who would have the government stop people from burning flags is neither brave nor free. Such a person is also unpatriotic. Real patriotism is supporting your countrymen against the government. Rebellion is patriotic. This country was founded on rebellion. If you aren't a rebel, you aren't a real American.

This is damning evidence...

Tenpoundbass says

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/11/29/flashback-sen-hillary-clinton-files-bill-punishing-flag-burners-one-year-jail/

President-elect Donald Trump isn’t the first person to propose punishment for burning the American flag. Consider theFlag Protection Act of 2005, co-sponsored by then-Sen. Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.).

"This is damning evidence..."

Yep, it shows that Trump is no different than any other politician of the last 20 years.

It's amazing how everyone continues to redirect the conversation to Clinton rather than face up to the fact that they were sold a bill of goods by Trump.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Sanders and Warren don't have much power NOW,

They are still members of the Big Club.

zzyzzx is deplorable says

No hypocrisy by liberals, just leftist and rightist conservatives.

It is legal and protected speech to burn either. Either can, but is not necessarily, hate speech. The later is more likely hate speech as it is directed against people whereas flag burning is typically directed at governments if done by their own citizens. Flag burning of other nations is far more likely to be actual hate speech. But in either case, it's legally protected speech. Yes, you can express hate and sometimes it's appropriate.

The left is hypocritical whenever they attempt to outlaw burning of the Quran. The right is hypocritical whenever they attempt to outlaw burning of the flag. The right has burned many books including religious books.

The burning of books, even "bad" books, is more repugnant since you are borderline trying to suppress the debate of ideas, whereas the burning of flags is typically a condemnation of a government and its recent actions. So the two acts aren't equivalent in their message. But still, both messages are protected speech.

Personally I don't think that flag burning actually accomplishes anything. It's just an outcry of rage against a government, but that's exactly why governments seek to ban it. Governments don't like any expression of condemnation directed at them. And that's why it's important that flag burning be protected as a sacred right.

Despite being an ineffective message, because flag burning is a condemnation of one's own government, it is ironically far more patriotic than flag waving. Real patriotism is opposing your government in order to protect your countrymen.

Ironman says

It's amazing that if Clinton says/does something = GOOD

If Trump says/does the exact SAME thing = BAD

And if Melania says something, then Michelle said the exact same thing earlier.

Trump made his Treasury pick in July. This wasn't a hidden surprise!

http://fortune.com/2016/07/19/here-is-who-donald-trump-wants-for-treasury-secretary/

"Sell Everything" - RBS on Jan 11
Returns since...
Oil: +50%
EM: +21%
S&P 500: +17%
US High Yield: +13%
$RBS: -41%
Long Volatility: -72%

The Visuals right now for the Democrats stink:

* Record DOW highs
* Strong Dollar
* Carrier Jobs saved

* Snotty college kids burning flags
* Whinging and Recounts
* Re-electing Old Guard Insider and Perennial Failures like Nancy Pelosi, discussing Black Muslims as DNC Chairs.

Clinton called and conceded on election night. Who isn't recognizing it?

joeyjojojunior says

Clinton called and conceded on election night. Who isn't recognizing it?

Thoughtful decisions and whisky don't necessarily go hand in hand...

Logan Mohtashami says

"Sell Everything" - RBS on Jan 11

Ranina ranina says

"Sell Everything" - RBS on Jan 11

All RBS needed to do is change "everything" to RBS ... it would have been one of the best calls of the year

The behavior of people back in January ..... whistle ... so people are just naturally skittish

It's the Liberals fault for them expecting every Libtard in the world move to a Blue City and live in a snowglobe above the Starbucks.

They forgot to leave some voters where it counts. These retarded bastards honestly think they can win election on population in one city alone.

Ironman says

Clinton supporters need to quit whining about the Electoral College

For once I agree with Ironman, Democrats are leaving an openings that might bite them back in 2020

Ironman says

Clinton’s 2.3-million-popular-vote plurality over Trump depends on the votes in a single state: California. Clinton has more than a 4-million-vote plurality over Trump there.

And a lot of these were illegal aliens voting.

Ironman says

“A great deal of fear, sadness, and anger among students, faculty, and staff resulted, especially for those that gather in the [office space],” Chamber asserted. “The message was hateful and harmful toward members of our community. It violated every value that this institution considers to be at its core.”

These people get paid a salary???

"And a lot of these were illegal aliens voting."

Then you should welcome the recounts! We'll find lots of illegal votes there, right?

"Are they recounting California?"

Not that I'm aware of.

joeyjojojunior says

"And a lot of these were illegal aliens voting."

Then you should welcome the recounts! We'll find lots of illegal votes there, right?

Waste of time and money. Wont change the results.

"Waste of time and money. Wont change the results."

I agree, except I'm curious to see if we find hundreds of thousands of illegals voting as Trump suggests.