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"Wouldn't happen if democrats didn't swell their base with illegal aliens. Forget securing the border, just implement voter ID laws on a federal level and the accusations will evaporate..."

That's laughable. There will always be another conspiracy that can rile up sheeple. If you institute voter IDs, then the new accusations will be that Acorn faked the IDs or faked the paperwork to get them IDs. If half of Republicans still believe Obama was born in Kenya, voter IDs won't stop this nonsense about voter fraud.

Why you silly unimaginative little shit.
Implement fingerprinting ID as already exists in your smartphone, or better yet, iris scanning.

joeyjojojunior says

If you institute voter IDs, then the new accusations will be that Acorn faked the IDs or faked the paperwork to get them IDs

people won't vote for a woman-isn't that one of the excuses?

Yes, I have to agree, if someone buys a car to do Uber then they are an asshole.

You can rent car from enterprise (at least around nyc) for less and use it to do Uber ....I learned that they have some kind of agreement yesterday

https://www.enterprise.com/en/business-car-rental/uber/locations.html

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

ASSHOLES! who bought cars to drive for Uber are homeless and fighting with raccoons for the last french fry in the dumpster.

lol 😂😂

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

i rode uber a few times i thought it was a very cheap alternative to taxi. i will never ride a fucking overpriced POS taxi again.

can't tell where the money went but the amount is shocking.

I keep hearing from people that uber and taxi is roughly priced the same.

my experience is that I always seem to pay 30-40% less with uber on routes I've used Taxis in the past. Done with taxis here too.

"Why you silly unimaginative little shit. Implement fingerprinting ID as already exists in your smartphone, or better yet, iris scanning."

Why not do a DNA test before you get a ballot?

Not commonplace affordable immediate technology.

joeyjojojunior says

Why not do a DNA test before you get a ballot?

"Not commonplace affordable immediate technology"

haha. But you're going to put iris scanning in every polling place in the US?

The Left hates the electoral college because it makes cheating more difficult.

"The Left hates the electoral college because it makes cheating more difficult."

Actually it makes it easier as the right has figured out. You only have to illegally stop 50-80K voters in a few states vs. having to illegally keep 3MM voters from voting without the electoral college.

Individual votes don't count if they're illegal aliens.

Wyoming has 600,000 people and two Senators.

Suffolk County, NY (Eastern LI) has 2 Million people and shares 2 Senators with the other ~18M New York State Residents.

Think about this: There is a Senator for every 300,000 Wyoming residents, but only one Senator for every 10M New York Residents.

The whole of Wyoming has many, many times the voting power of Suffolk County despite having less than 1/3 the residents.

And the Constitution would have never been ratified without this discrepancy.

Seems to me this is the most undemocratic aspect of our Constitution right now.

Look the loser Hillary looks like a whole different character than the lying sack of shit Hillary as a candidate.

"Individual votes don't count if they're illegal aliens."

Yep. And recounts in Nevada, Michigan, and everywhere else they've ever done them has found ZERO evidence of any measureable amount of illegal alien voting. But, in Florida, North Carolina, et. al, they've found huge issues with voters illegally purged from the registered voting rolls.

If you want to point at voter fraud, you should be point at Republicans.

Nevada - there's no way to verify because they don't check for ID at the polling booth.

It's like a security guard saying "only employees are in the building."
"How do you know?"
"Because this is the only way in."
"Did you check and record the Badges they had?"
"We don't check IDs, we take people at their word."

31 States also don't check.

Funny because to get your Soc Sec report you have to show ID. Apparently it's okay to exercise the vote and pick the leadership of the country without doing so in most of the states.

PS You don't need to drive to get an ID. And ID cards aren't prohibitively expensive. $10 in Nevada for an under 18 ID, $22 for an over 18 ID. Same people who claim poverty just came back from the liquor store with a bottle of Hennessy

PPS Canada, Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands --- all require ID to vote.

Entitlemented says

RULE 13

Alinsky turning in his grave.

No.
You are, via trump and your tax dollars...

joeyjojojunior says

"Not commonplace affordable immediate technology"

haha. But you're going to put iris scanning in every polling place in the US?

Why bring jazz into the conversation???

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

ame people who claim poverty just came back from the liquor store with a bottle of Hennessy

I used Uber recently. The driver was from the '60's. We talked about Dead shows and similar era music. I was able to track the driver's progress. I would use Uber again.

BayArea says

my experience is that I always seem to pay 30-40% less with ub

Definitely 50% cheaper to airport in Atlanta from Decatur downtown. Cab with tip: 75 bucks Uber: 29-32 bucks

Actually the scroll above has some truths to it.

If you sum of the rules of Alinsky, it would be "pick a fight on everything", "dont work with other to solve problems", "cast blame around as broadly as possible", "and dont love your neighbors". In essense dont work in good faith with anyone.

Jesus told us to "Love our neighbors". Whilst this be a quote from a great religious figure, I would hope even avowed atheists could get behind constructive problem solving and trying to fix things rather than break them, and get along in our societies.

So the reason why Hillary lost the election: Her Bachelors thesis on Alinsky contributed to her entire persona. That was the wrong guy for solving problems, it was the wrong guy for Chicago.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Uber is a typical FUCK! EVERYONE! IN! THE! ASS! Silicon Valley race to dump the lie on the ASSHOLES! at the IPO

When you say it, it sounds much cooler; ThomasWong1986 used to say the same thing, albeit not specifically about uber.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Take a cab and encourage the driver to flip the bird at Uber drivers with you while shouting "Travis sucks my dick! Hey!"

Yes Travis is much worse than the russian mobsters who bought most of the medallions in NYC with ill-gotten cash.

"No. You are, via trump and your tax dollars..."

I think you meant "we are" and "our tax dollars"

"Nevada - there's no way to verify because they don't check for ID at the polling booth"

And.... that's BS. They typically ask for an ID and always ask for a signature. A signature is good enough to prove ID for legal papers, credit cards, checks, etc.

I guess a signature is not good enough to prove ID to vote though?

joeyjojojunior says

And.... that's BS. They typically ask for an ID and always ask for a signature. A signature is good enough to prove ID for legal papers, credit cards, checks, etc.

JJJ: No ID, picture or non-picture ID, is required to vote in Nevada. If you know they are asking people, it ought to be reported to the state because it's not legal.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identification_laws_by_state

"I'm all for voter ID, but it has to be done Legally."

JJJ: No ID, picture or non-picture ID, is required to vote in Nevada. If you know they are asking people, it ought to be reported to the state because it's not legal. https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identification_laws_by_state "I'm all for voter ID, but it has to be done Legally."

It's done. But you didn't address the main point. Why doesn't a signature suffice as an ID?

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEVxAq4FpYwlAAWGpXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyajdkczhqBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDQjMyNDZfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1482379434/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fb.3cdn.net%2fadvancement%2f4683c27dcddddf627c_t7m6iyxnh.pdf/RK=0/RS=5iQAbrrizN6Zf.aT1IqVB7CbSJw-

If you don't like our Constitution, then GTFO!

joeyjojojunior says

And.... that's BS. They typically ask for an ID and always ask for a signature. A signature is good enough to prove ID for legal papers, credit cards, checks, etc.

I guess a signature is not good enough to prove ID to vote though?

If you've ever bought a car or a house (which I doubt) you'd know that getting a loan for either requires you prove your identity usually with a state issued ID or a passport. Signatures are just a way to certify agreement of the details of a contract. They've never been a form of ID, too easy to fake!

joeyjojojunior says

, North Carolina, et. al, they've found huge issues with voters illegally purged from the registered voting rolls

You mean like the Democrats did to Brooklyn voters right before the New York primary? And the media reporting a Clinton win before California primary voting day to discourage Bernie voters from voting? For every sketchy Republican voter tactic I'll give you two outright frauds committed by Democrats, usually against their own.
Get off the plantation, joey! You're a good House ( )igger and all, but yo' massah don't appreciate you!

No, I meant "you".
I picked that up from your original comment below. See what you started?

joeyjojojunior says

"No. You are, via trump and your tax dollars..."

I think you meant "we are" and "our tax dollars"

Ranina ranina says

But you're going to put iris scanning in every polling place in the US?

If you have to ask this question, you don't deserve an answer...

joeyjojojunior says

But you didn't address the main point. Why doesn't a signature suffice as an ID?

joeyjojojunior says

It's done. But you didn't address the main point. Why doesn't a signature suffice as an ID?

How do you know who is signing it? Since you neither need to show picture or non-picture ID, what do they have to compare it to?

Maybe if you sign your DMV forms, you don't need to carry your driver's license. If you sign your employee form, why do you need to show a badge? They can just ask you to sign!

Let's do this at the TSA Check-in. "I don't have picture ID, but I can sign something."

"You mean like the Democrats did to Brooklyn voters right before the New York primary? And the media reporting a Clinton win before California primary voting day to discourage Bernie voters from voting? For every sketchy Republican voter tactic I'll give you two outright frauds committed by Democrats, usually against their own.
Get off the plantation, joey! You're a good House ( )igger and all, but yo' massah don't appreciate you!"

Yep--exactly like that. It was wrong when it happened in the NY primary and it's doubly wrong when it happens in NC and FA during a Presidential election. How about we both agree that this practice sucks and keep it from happening again? And admit that it's a much bigger problem than supposed illegals voting.

As to the media--I think the opposite is true. Reporting a Clinton win will keep lazy Clinton voters at home because they think she doesn't really need their vote.

Hey JJJ, should we allow signatures for buying beer and cigarettes?

"Sure, I'm 21 Mistah. Lookee, I can sign my very own name"
"Good enough for me, young fellah. We take people at their word here. After all, this ain't Putler Land, but 'Murica, the good ol' US of A. Eat your oatmeal and avoid diabeetus."

PCGyver says

Are you required to show the id every time you make a payment?

False analogy! The bank doesn't care who makes the payment as long as they get paid!
Using your vote is more like using your bank account. It's a right that belongs to you and nobody else with your voter Registration. If someone else accesses your bank account and withdraws your money you'd said fraud! Same when someone uses your vote.

Honestly this is such a DUH issue I'm amazed you butt holes have the stones to present such a lame argument! But then I've heard that Leftist thought causes brain damage.

joeyjojojunior says

"Individual votes don't count if they're illegal aliens."

Yep. And recounts in Nevada, Michigan, and everywhere else they've ever done them has found ZERO evidence of any measureable amount of illegal alien voting. But, in Florida, North Carolina, et. al, they've found huge issues with voters illegally purged from the registered voting rolls.

If you want to point at voter fraud, you should be point at Republicans.

Do a recount in California.

We require gov't ID to drive, buy alcohol, enter a bar/casino, etc., but not to vote? Anyone who argues against that is fucking retarded. It makes me embarrassed to be human.