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Ironman says

Families enrolled in bronze plans will have average deductibles of $12,393, for 2017 according to the study by the consumer insurance comparison site HealthPocket.

HealthPocket also found that that average premiums, or monthly payments, for bronze plans nationwide will increase 21 percent next year for people who earn too much to qualify for Obamacare subsidies.

The poor don't have $1,000, how will they come up with $12,000?
My advise to the poor..... stick to the old system where you go to the emergency and don't pay anything.

Ironman says

"if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period"

"if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period"

If you like your President, you can't keep your President. Sorry, his time is over.

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This is damning evidence...

Ironman says

See Duckface, he MANUALLY entered it and voluntarily gave an unknown person his email password. That's how they found out it was "Password". Duh..

and this is the Party YOU voted for.

I would have used HubbaHubba1944.

Ironman says

President Obama was honored with the 2016 Washington Free Beacon Man of the Year Award.

Which award is that-I heard he was awarded an award for public service by one of his subordinates? I mean that is tacky even for this clown-or does he have no scruples at all??

phishing is the first wave of attack since it is easiest and quickest to carry out and it bypasses all server security restrictions. i'm sure they did not expect such a high ranking member of Hilary's staff to be that dumb and get caught in the first wave.

then they were shocked to find out he was even dumber than realized. his password was a simple variant of "password" which would have eventually get cracked in a VERY short amount of time regardless. that is what Assange is saying, for the hack-illiterate/slower folks in here.

borrow money to buy vote is all he did

Hilary's nominee would have been worse. this is Obummer's SEC chairwoman:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jo_White

"For 10 years, she was chair of the litigation department at Debevoise & Plimpton,[10] whose self-proclaimed "core practices" and expertise are focused on the success of Wall Street financial firms...It has been asserted in Rolling Stone magazine that, among other duties at Debevoise, White has used her influence and connections to protect certain Wall Street CEOs from prosecution"

"On June 2, 2015, Senator Elizabeth Warren wrote a letter to White indicating that her "leadership of the Commission has been extremely disappointing"[21] pointing out numerous shortcomings and failures during her tenure. Warren admonished that White failed to finalize certain Dodd–Frank rules, did not curb the use of waivers for companies that violated securities laws, allowed settlements without admission of guilt, and was too frequently recused because of her husband's activities."

"On October 14, 2016 Senator Warren sent a formal written request to President Obama asking for the immediate dismissal of White as Chair of the SEC because of her refusal to develop public disclosure rules of political contributions made by corporations."

All financial instruments have risks.
"Saver" are those takes the least risk with the goal to actually "save" to buy foods, or shelter. the goal is NOT large yield or capital gain. Preservation is the key, hopefully without losing purchasing power too quickly. The instruments "savers" use are money market funds or CDs.

"Bond" investors reach out to more risks by going for longer durations. They understand the risks of inflation and speculate on interest rate moves. They do multiple durations to balance risk and reward. They can tolerate fluctuations and make sure they are ready for it since those are NOT money they need to "save" to buy food or shelter.
"Savers" as contrast, do NOT have to deal with these risk management because they want certainty and stability. The only thing they might watch is inflation. They do NOT have to speculate on rate or default risks like Bond investors.

I remember back in 2000-2007, the fed funds overnight is 4% and 1 year CD, money markets are between 4 and 5. Once Obama came in office in 2008, the 4% becomes zero. So the savers saved their income since 2008 received 0% while seeing their cost of living rise. Look at rent, house prices, health care, tuition, those that matter.

Now compute how much those "saver" saved for the past 8 years, and you do 4% compounding. That's the money "wealth transferred" to "fed window" debtors who borrows at 0% and do the dirty work for Obama buying 10 year treasury at 3%.

When money is created in Fed, it goes to 2 places. Either economy such as goods or services, OR financial assets. Obama's 8 year is defined by QE/ZIRP driving existing finaical assets up without having any real impact on econonmy. It also forces savers to take on more risks to award people who take on previous debt to gain control of assets.

Above are my thoughts.

Since the whole threat is started to blame Obama, my thought is that he did NOT do anything to structural change the situation he started with. He just coped with it through monetary policy.
To me, he is neighther good nor bad. He did NOT make things materially worse from structural point of view nor did he became a hero and try to change things by risking his life/career.

He is simply coping along and finally became IRRELEVANT in history other than being the first black president.

Because he keeps the "borrow-spend-bailout" structure intact, as time goes by, the system reinforces hollowing out of the economy and make wealth concentrated in the hands of people who know how to do "wealth transfer" better than "wealth creation". When that elite rentier dynamic goes to extreme, history has shown civilizations tends to go from order to chaotic until new order merges. In most incidents, it is violent and bloody.

What a dumbass. My children could have hacked that.

Ironman says

Really, he can't afford $100 a year to get his own, protected domain like johnpodesta.com or something similar?

Seriously. He should have followed Hillary's lead with clinton.com to insure safety. No one would bitch about that.

Speaking of Russians, whatever became of the 20% sale of our uranium to Russia-John Podesta's daughter holding shares of the Russian company, Hilalry foundation receiving millions or was it tens of millions from the Russian interests etc etc.

Are the repubs investigating it or too afraid their own skeletons will come tumbling out?

When are these intelligence-or dumb-agents going to look into Russian influence on the dems. The uranium, donations to Hillary's charity, John Podesta's daughter owning the Russian company's shares.

Obama is like that crazy chick that throws your clothes and stuff out the window. He can't believe after he made it personal, told people he would be personally insulted if they didn't vote for Hillary-that people voted for trump. He is going crazy.

more bullshit from a failed administration and a failed campaign with egg all over its face AND LOTS of wasted donor money.

it's anyone's / everyone's fault but theirs.

lostand confused says

Obama is like that crazy chick that throws your clothes and stuff out the window. He can't believe after he made it personal, told people he would be personally insulted if they didn't vote for Hillary-that people voted for trump. He is going crazy.

he's always been a little arrogant bitch, and now we're seeing a sore loser as his "legacy" and "signature legislation" will be gutted starting on day one of trump admin.

I have come to the conclusion if the Liberals want to believe Putin campaigned for Trump and he called me during dinner and talked me into voting for Donald J. Trump and convinced me that Donald will make America Great Again.

Then Damn it let them!

Yo Putin! Thanks for the solid!

lostand confused says

Obama is like that crazy chick that throws your clothes and stuff out the window. He can't believe after he made it personal, told people he would be personally insulted if they didn't vote for Hillary-that people voted for trump. He is going crazy.

I hope he feels as if I personally spat in his face.

So Obozo not only allowed ISIS to grow-he also allowed the Russians to hack us and the Chinese and God knows who else??

Tim Aurora says

They did not say that. They agreed that this was not the only reason.

let me spell this out, because this is just how fucking authoritarian these cunts are:

the DNC and the obama admin want to paint the 2016 election as "un-american" and "foreign-influenced" because THEY LOST. they want to instill a sense of destabilization, because THEY LOST. and not only did they lose, THEY GOT OBLITERATED AND EMBARRASSED - BY A TOTAL BUFFOON IN DONALD TRUMP.

so, yeah - they're gonna say whatever it takes to get people to believe that it wasn't their fault / that they were the VICTIM instead of merely the incompetent, corrupt, anti-American, lying sacks of shit that they are who were just tried in the court of public opinion and got HANGED.

Tim Aurora says

ou can surely complain about this on a different thread and I may agree with you, but on this thread we want to discuss Russia's involvement in our election.

Assuming it was the Russians, your complaint is they revealed the truth???????????

obama actually thought that he had such swagger and bravado over the american people that he could just walk out on the campaign trail and COMMAND THE MASSES to do as he says and vote clinton. the DNC thought that they could just hold conventions and rallies and speak spanish to attendees and the election would be theirs.

they are THAT ARROGANT.

Tim Aurora says

It is foreign influenced. So if next time Chinese hack and Democrats win, you will be OK. Thanks for letting me know that.

that is propaganda from a failed admin. please keep up with the discussion.

Tim Aurora says

My complain is the Trump will be a Russian stooge for rest of his presidency and we seem to be OK with it. At least some of you, and it seems it is the ones who paint themselves as patriotic and independent. Ironic !

Nah that is Hilalry. Why did she sign off on giving 20% of uranium to the Russians-you do know what Uranium is used for??. Why did she take millions for her foundation from the Russians and why does Podesta's daughter have shares in the Russian company that seems related to this whole mess?

During the Obama years, Russia has grown in size, they annexed Crimea, have a war in Syria where we hide and they take the initiative and are now grwoing closer to NATO ally Turkey. Why would they want Trump????????? If Hillary, all they would have to do is throw another 100 million to the foundation , give ten million dollars to Bill Clinton for "speeches" and complete what they started in Crimea-annex Ukraine.

Class act all the way.

I actually read this and was shocked. That is low-even for him.

Tim Aurora says

That was the question.If a foreign power interferes with our democracy

Did Donna Brazile interfere with our democracy?

landtof says

more bullshit from a failed administration and a failed campaign with egg all over its face AND LOTS of wasted donor money.

Not to mention Clapper, who perjured himself live on CSpan.

Podesta's emails are now "Critical National Infrastructure".

Thew question should be which country has not hacked us under OBama's leadership.

Tim Aurora says

It is foreign influenced. So if next time Chinese hack and Democrats win, you will be OK. Thanks for letting me know that.

Actually, the Chinese did do a big hack against us. More than one - the Dept of Energy, the FDIC, etc. - key information and critical US infrastructure, some of it nuclear related.

Most recently, China hacked the Office of Personnel Management and got information on just about every Federal Employee.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/03/abcs_jon_karl_grills_josh_earnest_why_was_there_no_public_response_when_china_hacked_opm.html

Strangely, there were no sanctions - it was if it never happened.

Why didn't Obama take strong action?

JON KARL, ABC: So when the Chinese hacked OPM in 2015, 21+ million current and former government employees and contractors had their personal data stolen by the Chinese. Why did the White House do nothing publicly in reaction to that hack? Which in some ways, was even more widespread than what we saw here from the Russians?

JOSH EARNEST: These are two cyber incidents that are malicious in nature but materially different.

KARL: 20 million people had their personal data taken... fingerprints, social security numbers, background checks. This was a far-reaching act--

EARNEST: I'm not downplaying the significance of it, I'm just saying that it is different than seeking to interfere int he conduct of a U.S. national election. I can't speak to the steps that have been taken by the United States in response to that Chinese malicious cyber activity--

KARL: But nothing was announced. There was not a single step announced by the White House. '

EARNEST: It is true that there was no public announcement about our response, but I can't speak to what response may have been initiated in private.

KARL: But no diplomats expelled, no compounds shut down, no sanctions imposed, correct?

Earnest is saying that revealing that the DNC rigged the Primaries and Caucuses for one candidate against the other is interfering with an election, but actually doing the intefering is not a thing.

Tim Aurora says

what they considered to be conclusive evidence

Expose the evidence. LIARS!

IRAQ! has WEAPONS! of MASS DESTRUCTION!

I have come to the conclusion that Republicans are STUPID.
Republicans,Trump voters & right wing trolls here just run their mouths
& have not read & do not have access to any security documents.

Your IGNORANT,DELUSIONAL,PROPAGANDIZED brain is showing.

Iron man, you know politicians are lying whenever their lips move. That's a given.
The question is, is it right for everyday joe to expect somebody else to make the change for the everyday joe?

I think in the end, Joe will get what he deserves, NOT what he wants.

If joe thinks through the situation and make good efforts to change things for himself, he will see
changes.

If joe give power to somebody else so that somebody else can make change for him, he will find not only the change he wants did not come, but also he is getting new problems because the one he give power is beginning to work against him.

There are only two ways to make people do what you want. Pointing a gun at his head or reward him with money, which is claims on food, shelter and services. The illusion of getting somebody to work for Joe through election process is just NOT how competing human work.

It is up to the administration in charge to protect people from so called "hacking", so I guess they failed to do what they were supposed to do. They should be blaming themselves and not the Russians!

casandra says

It is up to the administration in charge to protect people from so called "hacking", so I guess they failed to do what they were supposed to do. They should be blaming themselves and not the Russians!

But they don't have enough monnnnneeeeeyyyyy. Give them more money. That's what this hearing is about

Here's another thing they dodge: Snowden wasn't a Federal Employee. He worked for a Contractor. So, should we keep outsourcing Intel stuff?
(Oh no, how would intel officials double dip when they retire?!)

By the way - exercise in cognitive dissonance:

"Nothing in the Wikileaks we didn't already know"

YET

"Undermines the Election, Puts people at risk, Hurts National Security."

Well if the first part is true, how can the second part be true?

Tim,

Did Donna Brazile interfere with our democracy?

Not true! And racist!

Obama is a Russian agent!