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Tim Aurora says

if the hacking by our ardent enemy does not make you sick to the stomach, you are not American

Hacking is a fact of modern life. Tons of private information is stolen to criminals every day.
Or emails can get subpoenaed in a lawsuit and become public, or they can be leaked.
Politicians just have to adjust to the fact that emails are not 100% secured.

Especially if you run your own server.

What was the questions perhaps they were stupid questions.
Obama surly didn't answer what he thought were Stupid questions. Remember Joe the Plumber? The MSM ripped him apart.

More over Obama didn't give many press conferences and only 3 SOTU addresses after it looked like Trump was showing the world what an American leader looked like.

Trump was giving SOTU addresses every day from the Primary trail.

Merely sticking the word "Unverifiable" in a Fake Ass News Story, then deflecting blame by protesting you're only reporting on Buzzfeed's reporting of the story, doesn't cut it.

Heraclitusstudent says

It's a silly notion. Most politicians refuse to answer some questions, or ignore the question on go on some unrelated tangent, or say some something so vague as to be meaningless. This is what politicians do.

In a room full of journalists he gets to shut down one that is screaming and rude to answer others.

Nothing dictatorial about that.

Hillary would just hand the journalists the questions she want's asked in advance instead.

zzyzzx says

Hillary would just hand the journalists the questions she want's asked in advance instead.

And have a cuter young woman actor ask the question as it was spontaneous, as we have seen in the campaign.

They were. People were testifying all over Stern on 9/11 and the day after.

Remember that Stern was the #1 talk program by far in the NYC metro area. It's pretty rare for 1010 WINS or Channel 11 WPIX to take viewer calls.

And when was the last time Hillary held a press conference?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/31/hillary-clinton-yet-to-hold-single-press-conferenc/
Hint: She is famous for not having them lately.

"Merely sticking the word "Unverifiable" in a Fake Ass News Story, then deflecting blame by protesting you're only reporting on Buzzfeed's reporting of the story, doesn't cut it."

That's not what they did. They reported on a very newsworthy story that intelligence officials were briefing Trump about Russia potentially have compromising information on him. You don't think that's news??

Still waiting on TLL Lips to point out specifically where CNN reported anything "fake" news.

T L Lipsovich says

CNN did reference the document and the Buzzfeed story. Saying it was "Unverified" was not enough - it shouldn't have been reported in the first place.

IRAQ HAS WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION!

Stupid Republicans still looking for evidence.
Why did/do YOU IGNORANT ASS rEPUBLICANS allow YOUR RIGHT WING
LYING CONSERVATIVE COMMENTARY MEDIA to ever speak or print the words,
IRAQ HAS WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION?
BECAUSE you're STUPID & LOVERS OF LIES!
Fake news= Rep/Con Political RIGHT WING Partisan outlets.

The only good thing to come out of Iraq is DEAD & INJURED FOR LIFE Republicans/Conservatives.
COLLATERAL DAMAGE for IGNORANCE in voting.
Call you Rightwing representatives,they will make sure the VA will take care of you medical problems
IMMEDIATELY.

I don't give a Damn about DEMOCRATS. Because STUPID!
ASSHOLE TRUMPLICANS are on the hook in a few days.
You will experience SHOCK & AWE!

Liberals live in a bubble.
They have no concept of the damage that the policies they parrot have on the average American.

Will CNN get pissed off enough to do serious investigative journalism
into every breath that trump ever took?

I doubt it,too.

joeyjojojunior says

very newsworthy story that intelligence officials were briefing Trump

I'm talking about the BS 35-page word document CNN reported on.

I love seeing Democrats defend the powerful interests;

1. Of the War-Lobby
2. Of the Massive Surveillance State Obama vowed to fix but never did
3. Of the Oligarch Concentrated Press pushing their angle, esp. Re: Russian "Danger"
4. With Neocons as Allies.

"I'm talking about the BS 35-page word document CNN reported on"

You mean the one they didn't report on? Please show me the report you are referencing.

Did you find that fake CNN story yet?

Also, we have this dictator BS conversation every time a President isn't eligible for another term.

Freepers were screaming it with Clinton in 2000.
Various Left Wingers were screaming it with Bush in 2008.

What's novel this time is that it's the party that controlled the Outgoing President that's doing the bitching about dictators, AND the Media is not only not mocking them, nor granting the traditional honeymoon period, it's upping the ante and becoming more desperate to deligitimize the incoming President Elect. With the cooperation of at least some powerful groupings within the Intelligence Community as well as noted Neocons.

"Wolf Blitzer didn't mock Trump's birther beliefs on air?"

Of course they did. They don't report fake news.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/

Which officials did CNN speak with? Unnamed, Unprovenced sources again? How can I take unidentified people at their word?

How come Clapper (to CYA most likely) just distanced himself and the intel community from the veracity of these nonsense Word Documents?

"http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/ Which officials did CNN speak with? Unnamed, Unprovenced sources again? How can I take unidentified people at their word? How come Clapper (to CYA most likely) just distanced himself and the intel community from the veracity of these nonsense Word Documents?"

Clapper and Trump both have confirmed the story is true. So, let's try again. What is fake?

And Clapper didn't distance himself at all. He said they are still investigating.

joeyjojojunior says

Did you find that fake CNN story yet?

CNN's reporting on a Fake News Rumor, on a document that even David Corn at Mother Jones rejected as Over The Top Nonsense weeks ago, along with claims they interviewed unknown people at unknown times about the content, is here:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/

"CNN's reporting on a Fake News Rumor, on a document that even David Corn at Mother Jones rejected as Over The Top Nonsense weeks ago, along with claims they interviewed unknown people at unknown times about the content, is here:"

Nope. Try again. CNN reported that intel officials briefed Trump about Russia potentially having compromising materials on him. That is ALL true.

joeyjojojunior says

Nope. Try again. CNN reported that intel officials briefed Trump about Russia potentially having compromising materials on him. That is ALL true.

CNN has reviewed a 35-page compilation of the memos, from which the two-page synopsis was drawn. The memos have since been published by Buzzfeed. The memos originated as opposition research, first commissioned by anti-Trump Republicans, and later by Democrats. At this point, CNN is not reporting on details of the memos, as it has not independently corroborated the specific allegations. But, in preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos.

What has changed since then is that US intelligence agencies have now checked out the former British intelligence operative and his vast network throughout Europe and find him and his sources to be credible enough to include some of the information in the presentations to the President and President-elect a few days ago.
On the same day that the President-elect was briefed by the intelligence community, the top four Congressional leaders, and chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees -- the so-called "Gang of Eight" -- were also provided a summary of the memos regarding Mr. Trump, according to law enforcement, intelligence and administration sources.

This is an attempt to legitimize this nonsense, plain and simple.

Yes, we've never had the Press carry the water of insiders before.

Michael Cohen met with Russian operatives in Prague, just like Muhammad Atta met with Iraqi Agents in Prague not long ago.

Tim Aurora says

OK, let me rephrase that . They hacked and used it to influence our election.

In a country with free speech there are always people trying to disrupt and influence. It has always been the case.
But we are now in a world where any foreign country can run web sites and publish information directly to your citizen, by-passing any establishment press.
The first answer to that is to first be more transparent, more truthful, and more honest - so that your acts and words are not so easily turned against you.

I'm actually wrong, this isn't Fake News so much as Black Propaganda. Put out rumors, encourage the distribution of rumors, preferably while distancing yourself from the rumors your peddle to deligitimize the regime you wish to overthrow. Complete with frequent reference to unnamed sources within ... you guessed it... the intelligence community, whose major responsibilities include destabilization and coups against regimes they don't like.

The Chicken has come home to Roost.

And the Media is willingly participating. This is not surprising: Court historians gonna court historian; disgruntled Nobles gonna grumble and destablize.

"(Notice the lack of conclusion here in CNN's convo wth anonymous 'officials' - ie asscovering. This way CNN can say "Oh, we didn't say the sources told us they were legit or not. Pushing the rumor)."

Nothing in that is even remotely fake. They added to their original story since the cat was out of the bag with Buzzfeed. For god's sake, even Clapper will only say that they are still investigating. What would you have CNN report?

"This is an attempt to legitimize this nonsense, plain and simple."

No, the intelligence services legitimized it by putting it in the briefing. CNN is simply reporting on that fact. If you want to complain that the intelligence services should never have put it in their briefing, that's a legitimate point of view. But calling CNN fake is not.

The left used to project Obama as some grand master chess player-what was that 8th dimensional chess. But no, it is Trump who is the master chess player. The next few years are going to be fun-the lefties are doubling and tripling down and don't even realize they are being played. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch-this will be fun.

FP says

Chavez was a great man.

What good was Chavez? He turned an oil rich country into a starving nation.

In a certain light, Chavez does look a little orange.

Strategist says

What good was Chavez? He turned an oil rich country into a starving nation.

Obama would do the same thing here if we let him.

Tim Aurora says

So you would be OK if someone hacked into IRS and then released Trumps tax returns

I'm against illegal acts.
But politicians don't get to just complain that the world is unfair to them. This is no longer the era of cable news.
They need to adapt.

T L Lipsovich says

I'm talking about the BS 35-page word document CNN reported on.

Do you know what CNN reported about it?
Was that the same or different than BuzzFeed?
Did Trump's press circus treat Buzz' and CNN the same, or differently?
Why do you think that is?

If the media is intent on taking down Donald Trump or discrediting him, they shouldn't resort to clinging to fake stories that are so far fetched....they are ridiculous. This is the reason he was elected in the first place. People are sick of the crap from the press and Washington.

It wasn't a hack, it was a leak. Seth Rich was murdered for it.

"If the media is intent on taking down Donald Trump or discrediting him, they shouldn't resort to clinging to fake stories that are so far fetched....they are ridiculous. This is the reason he was elected in the first place. People are sick of the crap from the press and Washington."

The "media" didn't. Buzzfeed, which hardly qualifies, is the only one that printed it.

But, the intelligence community thought enough of the story to include it in their briefing to Trump (and Obama). So, if anyone is to blame, it's them.

zzyzzx says

It wasn't a hack, it was a leak. Seth Rich was murdered for it.

Just as credible as Pizzagate and Pissgate. The post-fact era is glorious!

theoakman says

If the media is intent on taking down Donald Trump or discrediting him, they shouldn't resort to clinging to fake stories that are so far fetched....they are ridiculous.

First, it's not "the media" ... let's be really clear. Obama and Trump were briefed on intelligence, of which was an unsubstantiated report. That report got leaked (Thanks McCain!) to the press. CNN reported on those happenings. BuzzFeed did that AND published the report itself.

I think Trump has a large volume of enemies on the hill, an antagonistic relationship with the press, FBI, and CIA, as well as a country in which more people voted against him than for.

If you think just the press fired this shot, you are so so wrong.

I think the Trump administration needs to learn that when someone pushes you into a puddle of piss, you don't stomp and splash up and down in it, like an angry 3 year old. That's a lesson, by every indication I see of Trump, that will never be learned.

Comedy gold and people WILL believe it. If the election taught you anything, you should know that. That is probably why Trump is so ... pissed. Hahahaha.

What damn few of you don't understand is how popular this guy is in flyover country especially the swing states. I distinctly remember saying that you're entitled to make fun of the Electoral Holy Trinity if you want but those people pick Presidents and they damn sure picked this one. You're gonna eat this for the next eight years and we're serving it up well done!