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Macropodia says

Well he had all press people in the getogether so I don't see a ban. I see segments of the press in the meeting on a rotating basis. It wasn't clinton news networks turn and when they realized they were not the fountain from which all news flows they shit their pants right on the pergo...

That must be why so many of the major news organisations are protesting the action...

How many outlets were there, and how many were banned?

BayArea says

How many outlets were there, and how many were banned?

Why not just read one/some of the many news reports on it? That'll tell you that Breitbart got access whilst the NYT, LA Times, CNN and the BBC, amongst others, did not. AP and Time boycotted in protest, and the WHCA protested against a clear breach of media coverage protocol. It was clearly a petulant action from the administration, and a disturbing measure in a democracy.

rando says

OK, does it seem like a good move to buy silver now?

If you think the gold/silver ratio is high, buy silver, short gold.

I'm curious what funds/etfs you guys buy when you invest in gold?

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

POSSE COMITATUS ACT

That's the act that allows the president to "commit acts of grabbing pussy", hence posse grabby comitatus act.

"Only if you have a ban button. I don't want any verbal diarrhea from trolls polluting my threads and disrupting genuine and productive discussions. Just because a troll doesn't make something that qualifies as an ad hominem attack doesn't mean that he's not disrupting a thread by spreading lies and misinformation simply to prevent an intelligent discussion of a political issue. Trolls disrupt free speech even without ad hominem attacks."

Can anyone provide any theory for why RING and PICK have been diverging from each other over the past 6mo?

RING - The investment seeks to track the investment results of the MSCI ACWI Select Gold Miners Investable Market Index.

PICK - The investment seeks to track the investment results of the MSCI ACWI Select Metals & Mining Producers ex Gold and Silver Investable Market Index.

Also, how should we approach investing in gold/silver vs gold/silver mining? Any thoughts?

GLD

However, for trading purposes I've been using GFI, mostly options. It has very juicy volatility.

Well they don't call him Vlad the Impaler for nothing.

That's why we need lawyers, to tell us the difference between the Posse Comitatus Act and the Pussy Grabitatus Act. That'll be $100K in gratuitous legal fees, please.

I basically got my home playing mining stocks at the end of 2008. That beings aid, miners in general have had horrible management and they seem to be a crapshoot. You can make money off the swings but it's never a safe play. Physical is the safety play. Mining stocks are pure speculation.

I don't know about the other rags, but even you cannot deny cnn has turned into the national enquirer... the only difference being they are attacking one group all the time in 90% of their articles on the front page.

Rashomon says

That must be why so many of the major news organisations are protesting the action...

I'm not seeing any value in CNNs reporting lately, seeing as they're printing nonstop attack stories on Trump and his administration. Clearly, Trump isn't seeing any value in their relentless and hateful spin of every event.
Honestly, the way big corporate media works these days is to slant news coverage to suit their big wealthy owners. So in essence, Trump was saying "FU" to a few oligarchs, not the press in general. It's no tragedy of freedoms to deny a hostile billionaire a seat at the table, while elevating less wealthy news sources.

What was your role Cecil B. Vile?

Well since it don't affect me I'm fine with it. I just came out of 8 years on the other side of Identity politics, so how dare you talk about butt hurt and outrage.
My only regret is that it doesn't sting harder for your folks.

Rashomon says

BayArea says

How many outlets were there, and how many were banned?

Why not just read one/some of the many news reports on it?

I read multiple articles but don't have a bounded answer, do you?

Putin Fanboy says

Real Estate, Economics, Banking, and Politics,

Anyone can post on these topics and frequently do, especially regarding politics.

The proposals are all about not being trapped and exploited.

In other words, they are about expanding and guaranteeing freedom.

The amendments to the constitution are also about banning things, like limits on free speech.

"Ending" government oppression is limiting freedom?
'Splain to me, Lucy!

why on earth would the white house not want the NYT at their briefings?

The Times and CNN can Goat Fuck themselves.

Oh so you are the producer. That's cool, you didn't say in the tread.

www.youtube.com/embed/wLzeakKC6fE

When a feminist filmmaker sets out to document the mysterious and polarizing world of the Mens Rights Movement, she begins to question her own beliefs. The Red Pill chronicles Cassie Jayes journey exploring an alternate perspective on gender equality, power and privilege.

Please do tell what you know about Sally Boynton Brown.

Putin Fanboy says

It's failed pretty miserably since then

What does the data show? Keep in mind everyone became interested in RE during the last Wall Street depression.

Pathetic.

"On January 23, 2017, Brown became the subject of controversy when during the Democratic National Committee Chair Candidates Forum in Washington, D.C. she said in regard to the Black Lives Matter movement that Democrats need to offer "training" that teaches Americans "how to be sensitive and how to shut their mouths if they are white."[7] Brown went on to say that "It makes me sad that we’re even having that conversation and that tells me that white leaders in our party have failed," she said. "I’m a white woman, I don’t get it... My job is to listen and be a voice and shut other white people down when they want to interrupt." Adding, "This is life and death" she continued. "I am a human being trying to do good work and I can’t do it without y’all. So please, please, please, get ahold of me... I need schooling so I can go school the other white people."[7]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Boynton_Brown

And the strategy to drive straight white men out of the Democratic party continues to work perfectly, distracting everyone from the real issues:

jazz music says

Why should representatives funnel all that money to the billionaires?

Why does fraud and malfeasance never get prosecuted and punished except for the rarest cases?

Why does passive income remain largely untaxed and wages fall over 30 years as productivity rises?

Putin Fanboy says

But you want a law passed allowing you to exploit the Girl Scout name and branding.

What? Allowing Girl Scouts to bake their own cookies is somehow exploiting the Girl Scout brand? Please explain.

Same with Mickey Mouse.

The Constitution specifically says patents and copyrights should be allow for a limited time. To change the law every time Mickey Mouse comes close to the limit is to violate the Constitution.

Why not just bake cookies and sell them, and you can donate the money to whomsoever you so choose? That is freedom.

Why should Girl Scouts be forced to work for massive corporate bakeries? Why can't they bake their own?

Placing huge government restrictions on free labor is oppression, and advocating jail for those who defy such onerous government restriction is not freedom.
Why not advocate NO government interference in who, what, or when I hire someone and for how much? That is freedom.

Free labor? You're advocating illegal immigration to undercut US workers' wages here, right?

I love it. Can't wait to watch it.

I enjoyed it. Well worth watching.

Apparently, the DNC learned nothing from the failed strategy of trying to elect Hillary Clinton at the expense of Bernie Sanders.

Who is the Berniecrat among the DNC chair candidates?

To win those "deplorables," the Dems are going to have to cease their identity politics programs including their continual backing of affirmative action. Ain't going to happen.

So what is the right response to the continuous deliberate distraction away from the core economic issues?

Haha I remember seeing a clip of her. I figured even the left wingers would write her off as a nut job. Not actually vote her in. And I thought Palin was bad.

Brown dropped out. Down to Perez and Ellison.

Putin Fanboy says

Limit
End (3X)
Ban (3X)
Forbid
Tariff
Prohibit (3X)
Jail
Restrict
Require (3X)
Mandate
Audit

Every single law and reform ever made or that could ever be made does one of the following
1. Banning something.
2. Limiting something.
3. Auditing something.

Every good law does one of the following.
1. Banning something evil like murder.
2. Limiting something dangerous like blood alcohol levels of drivers.
3. Auditing something to prevent abuse of power and corruption through transparency and accountability like investigating a cop accused of raping a female suspect.

If you are arguing that banning, limiting, or auditing things is inherently bad and thus a red flag, then your argument is a piss poor one.

Putin Fanboy says

Does Patrick hate freedom?

No, but I think he has some slight authoritarian tendencies. That's why he doesn't get how bad Trump is.

Putin Fanboy says

What you CANNOT do is steal the Girl Scout branding and apply it to your own product.

Lol, like Girl Scouts themselves would be stealing by calling their home-baked cookies "Girl Scout Cookies"?

Dude, be serious.

Putin Fanboy says

The list of things that Patrick wants to turn over to government control is a piss poor one.

Your original post was not an attack on the particular list of things Patrick wants to solve with the government. It was an attack on passing laws that ban, limit, or audit things. That attack is weak.

If you want to attack the specific proposals then do so. Any good idea can withstand questioning and challenges. Good ideas get better and demonstrate their value the more they are challenged.

However, you should first make clear whether you are really attacking the specific proposals or attacking the general idea of using government for anything more than bare bones defense against attackers and violent members of society. If you are making a minimalist use of government argument, then Patrick's proposals are irrelevant. You should address the more general question of what are the purposes of government.