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82546   Shaman   2017 Apr 15, 12:16pm  

Right, I've always pitied gays as either confused or damaged individuals, so the mental disconnect of inviting gay-hating Muslims to ram a semi-auto up their ass seems normal. Too many gay men are victims of childhood sexual abuse (by men) to ignore this as a triggering mechanism for turning a boy gay. The gay women I've known (yes some in my family also) are mostly also formerly abused and either afraid of men in a visceral way or angry at them because of mistreatment. And lest they be left out, there are men raised by women who have been so feminized that they go gay. Coworker's brother qualifies there. There are also the unicorns who were born that way, or born without much testosterone, so going gay is actually a social step up in this society.
Bottom line: gays are pitiable, not enviable. We should be kind to these unfortunate individuals, but we shouldn't even consider following their lead in pretty much anything.

82547   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 15, 5:42pm  

curious2 says

I'm also curious who Liked your comment. Some people prefer reinforcement of their ignorance, rather than facts, and I'm curious to see who prefers ignorance over evidence.

Liked for the bit about Gay-hating Muslims. Disagree somewhat with the rest. There are "Sissy" Men who dress as women but fuck girls (like Riley), because there are women who lean straight but afraid of men, so they "college lesbian" for a while. This gets the Hardcore Identitarian Lesbians upset enough to cancel a Multidecade music festival because they're not womyn born womyn, but really because they dislike having to compete with Chicks with DIcks for Pussy access. A guy like Riley has a big advantage over a Dyke with no dick, yet if "safe" enough for heterosexual/bisexual women who are generally afraid of "normal" masculine men. Hence all their materials about "Fake Men" "infiltrating" "womyn's spaces". It's really about THEIR monopoly on pussy in lesbian spaces.

Not everybody by a long shot, but there is strong sexual competition among homosexuals that sometimes affects heterosexuals. Certainly there is a TERF/Dyke element that would prefer all males disappear. And there is some truth that there are a number of gay guys interested in straight dudes.

82548   Ceffer   2017 Apr 15, 5:58pm  

This must be the Koch Brothers poll. The CNN poll found it to be 99.999 percent.

82549   curious2   2017 Apr 15, 6:05pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Liked for the bit about Gay-hating Muslims

Liked for candor.

Also, credit where it's due, @Quigley, I updated my earlier comment above because recent data have shown some correlation between childhood sexual abuse and subsequent adult homosexuality, mainly among males. I had based my original comment on prior research showing no correlation. Still, most of the claims linking these two things are religious sites that insist without data, while the scientific evidence remains ambiguous: kids (especially boys) who "act gay" or say they're gay are more likely to get abused for doing that, and it's difficult to sort out chicken/egg causation with much confidence. I do learn from PatNet, and theories must yield to data.

82550   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 15, 6:41pm  

Interesting!

It could also be, that more passive boys are not only the likely targets of being called gay, but also targets of Child Abusers.

Anyway I'm glad we live in today's age rather than former eras where your own mother would think you a liar for saying Father Mayi touched your pee-pee.

82551   Dan8267   2017 Apr 15, 7:25pm  

Does it really matter why some people are gay other than to understand the subject matter? It's not like the reason they are gay should have any effect on the law, or civil rights, or social attitudes towards homosexuality. Sure, it's a valid scientific question and knowledge should be pursued because you don't know what wisdom could be gained until after you have the knowledge. But it should not be a political question.

82552   Patrick   2017 Apr 15, 7:49pm  

I don't get why both graphs show a logarithmic rather than exponential increase.

If you're adding $1K/mo, it should at the very least be a linear increase.

82553   Bellingham Bill   2017 Apr 15, 8:36pm  

S & P index is going up so each $1000 is buying fewer and fewer shares

Is the total value of the shares in the two strategies -- buy and hold is a 4.5X return while the SMA cross signal is 7.8X

82554   Patrick   2017 Apr 15, 8:40pm  

What is the y-axis in your original graph? Dollars or shares?

82555   Bellingham Bill   2017 Apr 15, 10:23pm  

shares of the S&P 500 index fund

82556   marcus   2017 Apr 16, 8:45am  

Tenpoundbass says

A bogus health inspection report is just petty piss poor attempt at Liberals to desperately be relevant again.

Obviously.

Tenpoundbass says

Think I'll go up there for lunch today.

You should have the sushi

82557   Ceffer   2017 Apr 16, 9:47am  

"Are those croutons?" "No, those are the tsetse flies that fell off the bug zapper."

82558   Shaman   2017 Apr 17, 11:52am  

I keep a fairly open mind about such things. If anyone wants do cite scientific research on sexual preference and history of abuse, I'll listen. Maybe it's all anecdotal or maybe the research necessary to discover the truth is WILDLY UNPOPULAR! I'm not afraid of being politically incorrect (at least not on an anonymous forum LOL) and this should be an exchange of ideas, not a witch hunt.
I don't hate gays, I do pity them, and have even liked several as the people they are aside from what they do in private which frankly I don't want to know about. I've also been hit on by gay men in an uncomfortable way on several occasions that sort of freaked me out. So I'm not buying the assertion that they only go after other gay men.
My religion leads me to believe I should love the sinner (and aren't we all?) but not condone the sin.
I don't see how that's a hateful position to take.
I was upset at the massacre in Orlando. Those people didn't deserve sharia punishment, they deserved understanding and support.

82559   curious2   2017 Apr 17, 12:53pm  

Quigley says

If anyone wants do cite scientific research on sexual preference and history of abuse, I'll listen.

I found quite a bit, including some studies showing some correlation among males, but the results are in probabilities, not a 1:1 correlation. Most people who are gay haven't been abused, and most people who have been abused don't grow up to be gay. Also, more girls than boys get abused, yet more males than females identify as gay. The most candid summaries say they can't really give exact probabilities, including one favorite reply on Quora: "How does... being taught how to bake a bread, influence home-cooking?" If you like bread, you might be more likely to bake bread if someone shows you how. If you start from a religious opposition to leavened bread, then that might seem like a bad thing, and if you start with a religious objection to sex (in general or some types in particular) then you might crusade like Tipper Gore against 'adult lyrics' in music or like Texas 'Christians' against sex ed in school.

Quigley says

love the sinner (and aren't we all?) but not...the sin.
I don't see how that's a hateful position to take.

It isn't inherently, especially since we are all sinners. It is however a position too often misused by some to deny others the equal protection of the laws. Some people use religion as a mask for hatred, and some people believe in religions that command them to hate and kill (e.g. Islam), and people are probably more likely to identify with and believe in religions that affirm their emotions (whether love or hate). Exit surveys following Prop H8 showed religion was by far the strongest predictor of voting patterns: more than 80% of Evangelicals voted for an unconstitutional restriction despite being told specifically it was unconstitutional and indefensible (per the Attorney General, a Democrat) and "a waste of time" (per the governor, a Republican), while more than 80% of agnostics and atheists voted against it. It offered no benefit to anyone other than imposing religious beliefs with the force of law (the temptation of wrath), spending millions of dollars to indulge bigotry and hate by discriminating against a small percentage of the population who hadn't done anything wrong (or at least nothing worse than everyone else).

82560   Entitlemented   2017 Apr 17, 5:35pm  

It would cost America its Sovernity, as more democrats would race to the bottom with arts, film, communicatiions, and outdoor study majors.

And they would bullhorn on CNN and MSNBC that they should be made to make as much as people who make things, and many would become Attorneys.

82561   marcus   2017 Apr 17, 5:44pm  

So how many years of that could we get for what we've spent on the Iraq war ?

82562   marcus   2017 Apr 17, 5:49pm  

Entitlemented says

It would cost America its Sovernity, as more democrats would race to the bottom with arts, film, communicatiions, and outdoor study majors.

Total BS. You don't think most people would use it to try to study things they can make a living at ? Don't forget, they have to live those years, so the cost to them in time, food and housing is much more. They know that. Ever since a few decades ago, students have focussed much more on paths that lead to a job that might even support a family.

Some argue too much so, and that a good liberal arts degree is sometimes more valuable in the job market or as a stepping stone to a masters degree in business or whatever.

If tuition is mostly covered by the government, women's studies majors are going to be getting no more respect than they get now.

82563   FortWayne   2017 Apr 17, 6:24pm  

Costs need to go down. Subsidies just increase costs in long run.

82564   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 17, 7:38pm  

Is it as much as the unfunded,estimated cost of $ 4-6 trillion for Republicans Afghanistan & Iraq wars?
That money didn't go to education. That's why they are STUPID FUCKS!

82565   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 17, 7:39pm  

I've got a better reform plan.

Cap Student loans to $3,000/year.

Easy Credit spikes Prices.

82566   Ceffer   2017 Apr 17, 11:47pm  

7) Agent Orange laced martini, go old school on Dao's ass.

82567   curious2   2017 Apr 18, 1:34am  

Turkey is practically giving away sarin gas to any Sunni militia that promises to fight the Assad regime. Most major airlines have probably a few empoyees who could pass for Sunni militia, so send them to score some free sarin and hook it up to the coach ventilators. Need to clear some seats? Drop the O2 masks for business class and crew, gas the riff raff in coach, and tell the survivors to bring out their dead. Everybody knows that it's already in the contract of carriage, and besides you can always blame it on the Assad government. Just dump the bodies onto the tarmac and re-sell the seats to local sherriffs trying to get rid of their vagrant population. Shave one penny off the ticket price and you'll make it all back and more on volume.

And if any crafty passengers try to bring their own gas masks, count on TSA to confiscate the masks and beat those terrorists to a pulp as warning to others.

82568   Shaman   2017 Apr 18, 7:45am  

How would we enslave young people from the start then? If we aren't chaining them with thousands in hopeless debt, how will we make them into good little corporate drones?

82570   CBOEtrader   2017 Apr 18, 9:15am  

11)Dao is compensated for his troubles via email w a $50 off next United flight coupon

82571   Entitlemented   2017 Apr 18, 10:16am  

marcus says

So how many years of that could we get for what we've spent on the Iraq war ?

We got the Iraq war because we did not take seriously the WTC attacks of 1993. We got the Iraq war because we did not understand how to prevent SH from taking over Kuwait. We got terrorism because we found out that OBL did the African embassy bombings. US then sent a special team to get OBL. The policians said to "stand down" when they found OBL. US intelligence did not know about the 2001 incident in advance.

The funds spent on terror are like a start up with lots of money from a rogue son of an Oil Barron.

Democrats almost always leave out the background details, and in doing this they create disengenous arguements.

It appears that the terrorist bolstered their boldness and strength during Clintons presidency when no push back or protection of US assets was administered. This only sent a message to any terrorist that they could push us around, and then we get democratic whiners to try to cast blame elsewhere.

This is one of the reasons why Hillary did not get elected. This lack of terror response, NAFTA and CRA were terrible for the USA. The former is a physical terror, and the latter being a financial terror effectively.

82572   Ceffer   2017 Apr 18, 12:43pm  

12) Dao sues United for 10 million dollars for not getting his free peanuts and 30 million for mental and physical distress. United mails him a dog collar and leash as settlement offer.

82573   curious2   2017 Apr 18, 12:50pm  

CBOEtrader says

11)Dao is compensated for his troubles via email w a $50 off next United flight coupon

The coupon should be for a different airline that beats passengers even worse, so runaways would come crawling back begging to be re-accommodated into the cargo hold.

82574   anonymous   2017 Apr 18, 2:50pm  

I'm sure he's just a misunderstood nigger

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Really?

82575   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 18, 3:04pm  

Well, another mentally ill Muslim.

So, maybe we should use Islam to track those in danger of mental illness leading to homicidal bursts of rage, then?

82576   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 3:05pm  

Ironman says

Muhammad has a criminal history in federal court with indications of previously mental health issues

That's enough to make him a good Muslim. Allah must be proud.

82577   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 3:06pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Well, another mentally ill Muslim.

So, maybe we should use Islam to track those in danger of mental illness leading to homicidal bursts of rage, then?

If they covert to Islam, they must be both, stupid and dangerous.

82578   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 3:48pm  

Ironman says

Erik Gomez‏ @erikagsp7 3m3 minutes ago

Muslim? Check

Black? Check

Biggest Gun control State? Check

Hates white people? Check

Imagine if he was:
Christian
White
Hates Black Muslims

82579   Patrick   2017 Apr 18, 3:53pm  

Why Fresno?

Berkeley would have been a better choice.

82580   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 6:07pm  

Ironman says

Is this how they dress in Fresno? Did he just blend into the crowd?

It's California. He would fit in perfectly.

82581   Strategist   2017 Apr 18, 6:15pm  

Ironman says

Ahhhh CNN, you can count on them for "accurate" reporting...

(CNN) A man wanted in the slaying of a motel security guard fatally shot three men he apparently chose at random, Fresno, California, police said.


All three men killed in Tuesday's shootings are white. Suspect Kori Ali Muhammad has posted on social media a dislike for white people and government officials, Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said.

A "dislike" for white people... oh boy.... Reports were it took HOURS for CNN to actual report the story...

They had to make sure he was a Muslim first. The name "Mohammad" was not good enough. Neither was it convincing when he yelled "Allah ho Akbar"

82582   Ceffer   2017 Apr 18, 6:57pm  

What soreheads. O'Reilly has offered to change his show's byline from "the no spin zone" to the "no masturbation or molestation zone".

82583   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 18, 7:22pm  

SEXUAL CHOCOLATE

www.youtube.com/embed/otEm_aI2Vac

My dad circa 15 years ago: "That guy is a pervert."

82584   marcus   2017 Apr 18, 7:46pm  

Ironman says

Approximately 45% drop out of college NOW and never get a degree, and they are actually paying for going? What do you think the drop out rate will be when college is FREE??

You think that when the government subsidizes college, there are suddenly more spaces open at decent colleges ? The government needs to not pay it for people that can't either get in to a good public University of better, or get good grades at a good community college (which isn't that much cost to subsidize anyway).

School have limits on the number of students, and they have admissions requirements. With subsidies, admission requirements could possibly even go up. As it is now, a majority of students at all capable of going to college, or some sort of training after high school, do so.

82585   marcus   2017 Apr 18, 11:18pm  

Ironman says

So, if all these kids get affordable college costs from Bernie, where will they go to school? How is Bernie going to fix the shortage problem? Will he build more colleges too??

IT's not as much about more going as it is people taking on less debt to go.

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