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The aliens have been out to get Trump from the start!

Patrick says

Ray suggests that Brennan and also Comey may been at the center of a “Deep State” combined CIA-NSA-FBI cabal working to discredit the Trump candidacy and delegitimize his presidency.

I thought that between the time Clinton met the Attornee General "accidently" on the Tarmac in the west, and the announcement by Comey with him stepping into a role of attorney general "Surrogate" was terrible form.

You dont have to be a law student to think that time and open pronouncement of innocence was rigged.

I am working on a theory that Trump attracts aspie personality types into his cult of personality, and that he literally can do nothing, no matter how insane, ridiculous, filthy, incompetent or illogical that they won't attempt to explain away through bizarre, elaborate or, conversely, flippant excuses.

I am not intending to make light of this. I honestly believe that it's not only possible, but more likely than not.

I may do a thesis on this.

Patrick's trolling! Patrick's trolling!

“Deep State” combined CIA-NSA-FBI cabal

And what if there really is a conspiracy against Donald Trump being orchestrated within the various national security agencies that are part of the United States government? The president has been complaining for months about damaging leaks emanating from the intelligence community and the failure of Congress to pay any attention to the illegal dissemination of classified information. It is quite possible that Trump has become aware that there is actually something going on and that something just might be a conspiracy to delegitimize and somehow remove him from office.

Wow, a giant conspiracy orchestrated within the various national security agencies and including the republican congress. Its the crook of the arm isn't it? Tin foil hat time. Really big tin foil hat. The president can't keep getting blowjob secret. The only way for 2 people to keep a secret is if 1 is dead.

@patrick, do you really take this stuff seriously?

How can the leaks be damaging if there is nothing going on? Just saying.

bob2356 says

How can the leaks be damaging if there is nothing going on? Just saying.

How can screaming "Fire!" in a movie theater when there is none be damaging?

Trump was given the greatest advice by someone that told him Americas secret. Play to the Low Testosterone Betas! They love to play the victim, and will rally around he who best personifies the quintessential Low T Beta Victim card.

Blurtman says

bob2356 says

How can the leaks be damaging if there is nothing going on? Just saying.

How can screaming "Fire!" in a movie theater when there is none be damaging?

That's just dumb. Where have all the leaks been proven wrong? Half the time trump confirms them himself.

The CIA is simply incapable of executing such a conspiracy. The idea that they have all of the other agencies in on it, and that the rest of the government and media in on it too is laughable. If Trump really believes this, he needs to be committed.

He's a clown, an egomaniac, a liar, childish, incompetent, doesn't agree with the establishment ideas.
Each of these are impeachable offenses.

bob2356 says

Tin foil hat time. Really big tin foil hat. The president can't keep getting blowjob secret.

Yet the Media and the entire Democrat party seem to believe that Trump is somehow a Russian puppet?

Talk about tinfoil hat time!

Again, in what fucking universe can we believe Putin and Russians would prefer Trump and his Neocon and Big Oil cabinet over Hillary and nancy-boy Democrats?

"Again, in what fucking universe can we believe Putin and Russians would prefer Trump and his Neocon and Big Oil cabinet over Hillary and nancy-boy Democrats?"

The universe where Putin knows what a clown Trump is? Where he can send his ambassador to the White House and Trump gives away information so highly classified that we don't even share it will our strongest allies?

That universe.

joeyjojojunior says

The universe where Putin knows what a clown Trump is? Where he can send his ambassador to the White House and Trump gives away information so highly classified that we don't even share it will our strongest allies?

That universe.

Ha! As opposed to the universe where thousands of our Secretary of State's emails end up on a pervert's computer like Anthony Weiner?

As opposed to a universe where the previous Democrat president basically ceded the Middle East and Ukraine to Russia?

As opposed to a universe where the Democrat nominee promised to cut America's oil production that would enrich Russia and OPEC?

Heraclitusstudent says

He's a clown, an egomaniac, a liar, childish, incompetent, doesn't agree with the establishment ideas.

Not sure he's incompetent, but otherwise yes, all true.

Heraclitusstudent says

Each of these are impeachable offenses.

False.

He may yet turn out to be one of the best things that ever happened to America. You can't make a pearl without an irritant.

Patrick makes more popcorn and goes back to smiling at the show.

How much longer can the Democrats and Media be on a full boil? They are absolutely losing their shit every single week!

I didn't even vote for Trump in the General or the Primaries. I was totally against him in the primaries for all of his personality issues and liberal impulses detailed by others above.

But watching Liberals and Media fall all over themselves trying to gin up fake scandals motivates a NeverTrumper like me to defend him against the bigger corruption of our hack media and venal liberal and unaccountable bureaucracy.

socal2 says

But watching Liberals and Media fall all over themselves trying to gin up fake scandals motivates a NeverTrumper like me to defend him against the bigger corruption of our hack media and venal liberal and unaccountable bureaucracy.

I feel the same way.

Trump the person is flawed.

But the media's epileptic fits on behalf of terrified entrenched interests betray a fear that they have lost their control over the public. The media's death-ray of shaming tactics just isn't working anymore, and they can't figure out why.

rando says

I feel the same way.

Trump the person is flawed.

But the media's epileptic fits on behalf of terrified entrenched interests betray a fear that they have lost their control over the public. The media's death-ray of shaming tactics just isn't working anymore, and they can't figure out why.

Indeed.

I have to admit, I am enjoying the hypocrisy and apoplexy of the Media, Liberals and establishment Republicans.

Perhaps the original Trumpers were correct that Trump is a perfect vessel (or murder weapon) to finally destroy our corrupt Media? I didn't buy that argument during the primaries, but every week with the daily bed-wetting is proving that belief to be more and more true.

socal2 says

Yet the Media and the entire Democrat party seem to believe that Trump is somehow a Russian puppet?

Talk about tinfoil hat time!

Most are open minded about the possibility. If he is a Russian stooge, they haven't said if he is an unwitting agent or not.

"But the media's epileptic fits on behalf of terrified entrenched interests betray a fear that they have lost their control over the public. The media's death-ray of shaming tactics just isn't working anymore, and they can't figure out why"

So, honestly Patrick. You don't think Trump telling Russia our most guarded secrets--ones that we don't even tell our best allies for fear it could compromise the intelligence gathering and upset the intelligence service that gave it to us--is a big deal? You think the media is making too much of it?

You believe all the deep state stuff?

joeyjojojunior says

Trump telling Russia our most guarded secrets

You really believe Trump told the Russians our most guarded secrets?

I do think that established interests in the bureaucracy and media thought they would never have to worry that their sinecures might be cut off, and now they worry a lot that they will have to actually work like real people do.

Sinecure:
n. A position or office that requires little or no work but provides a salary.
n. Archaic An ecclesiastical benefice not attached to the spiritual duties of a parish.

Perhaps the original Trumpers were correct that Trump is a perfect vessel (or murder weapon) to finally destroy our corrupt Media? I didn't buy that argument during the primaries,

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Who was making that argument?

Those of us that supported Trump early on, mainly wanted ABC(anyone but clinton), but came to appreciate the way he destroyed the failed losers running in the Republican race, especially the Bush family and their legacy. It seemed that he was here to destroy the Republican party, however, now that it's apparent that he's here to do their bidding, many of us find him off putting. Even those of us that never consumed the Media and their Fake News

errc says

seemed that he was here to destroy the Republican party, however, now that it's apparent that he's here to do their bidding

Yes, he's a bit disappointing that way so far, but not as disappointing as Obama was.

He may still do some good things. I wrote him personally to request follow up on his campaign proposal of requiring medical bills to be presented in advance of treatment. Haven't heard back yet. If he actually does it, it was me. :-)

errc says

Who was making that argument?

Those of us that supported Trump early on, mainly wanted ABC(anyone but clinton), but came to appreciate the way he destroyed the failed losers running in the Republican race, especially the Bush family and their legacy. It seemed that he was here to destroy the Republican party, however, now that it's apparent that he's here to do their bidding, many of us find him off putting. Even those of us that never consumed the Media and their Fake News

Alot of commentators on Conservatives sites that I frequented were making that argument as I was pleading with them to nominate someone else like Cruz.

Many were Ron Paul InfoWars 9/11 troofer types - which I am not a fan of. I've been more than happy with Trump's foreign policy picks (and actions). So I just laugh at all the Democrats and Media pretending that Trump is somehow soft on America's adversaries or a Russian puppet. I could listen to Nikki Haley all day as she calls out the anti-Semites, Russians and ankle-biters at the UN for what they are.

Even if Trump was an actual Russian spy who was related to Putin, 99% of those who voted Trump into office wouldn't believe the MSMs report on it.

They've been serving out fake news and ratcheted everything having to do with Trump to 11 out of 10 since November, it's become extremely difficult to filter out the noise from the actual message.

rando says

You really believe Trump told the Russians our most guarded secrets?

See - this is a prime example of Democrats going absolutely ape-shit.

They are so over the top - it is hard to discern if it is satire or not. They have become a total joke.

The real story not being covered by the media this week was Julian Assange admitting that Seth Rich approached WikiLeaks before he was "robbed" (e.g shot twice in the back and left with his wallet, cellphone and anything of value).

This is extremely worrying and dark shit. Only Fox so far has run any coverage on it and very little at that. I've had to scour news sites to get tid bits here and there.

"You really believe Trump told the Russians our most guarded secrets?"

"See - this is a prime example of Democrats going absolutely ape-shit. They are so over the top - it is hard to discern if it is satire or not. They have become a total joke"

Yes, I think that's pretty obvious. It was information that we do not tell our closest allies. It was information that was so valuable it caused folks from Trump's inner circle of supporters to be mad enough to leak it to every media outlet in an effort to wake him the eff up.

Do you have reason to believe it wasn't highly classified information?

joeyjojojunior says

"You really believe Trump told the Russians our most guarded secrets?"

"See - this is a prime example of Democrats going absolutely ape-shit. They are so over the top - it is hard to discern if it is satire or not. They have become a total joke"

Yes, I think that's pretty obvious. It was information that we do not tell our closest allies. It was information that was so valuable it caused folks from Trump's inner circle of supporters to be mad enough to leak it to every media outlet in an effort to wake him the eff up.

Do you have reason to believe it wasn't highly classified information?

Uh because anything having to do with Russia and Trump reported by the MSM for 6 months straight has never ever been proven true.

Maybe leaking this was intentional, to change the subject from the Comey firing.

Hey, if it worked during the campaign, then might as well continue with that strategy. When Trump does something questionable, before the public has a chance to digest it, do something else as questionable or more so to take their attention off it.

socal2 says

They have become a total joke.

Is that what they're saying on Fox news, and Bretbart ?

Everyone is in their bubble, so apparently there is no truth. (see global warming).

"Uh because anything having to do with Russia and Trump reported by the MSM for 6 months straight has never ever been proven true."

Examples?

Goran_K says

This is extremely worrying and dark shit. Only Fox so far has run any coverage on it and very little at that. I've had to scour news sites to get tid bits here and there.

Please post more about Seth Rich if you find anything interesting.

joeyjojojunior says

Do you have reason to believe it wasn't highly classified information?

Yes - I believe in the honesty and integrity of someone like McMaster as opposed to anonymous sources and our media any day of the week.

McMaster didn't even deny it was highly classified, neither did Trump for that matter. He argued it's his prerogative to declassify on the fly - which is true, no matter how sloppy and imprudent it is.

McMaster only stated that sources and methods weren't disclosed. But evidently, the source didn't give permission to disclose the info to Russia. Although the whole thing does beg the question, why is this out in the public sphere, making it worse. Apparently it's becasue Trump needs to learn some humility about the learning curve of doing that job (never going ot happen).

C'mon socal, catch up.

rando says

Please post more about Seth Rich if you find anything interesting.

It's very interesting. Extremely scary material IMO. This is all that I have gathered up until now.

- Seth Rich was killed 12 days before WikiLeaks released details about the DNC cooperating against popular Democrat Candidate Bernie Sanders. This lead to Debbie Wasserman being ousted as DNC head, and lead to a 6 point MSM polling drop for Hillary Clinton (we now know that the polling drop was probably much more drastic based on how the actual election went and revelations of "under sampling" in MSM polls).

- WikiLeaks, soon after Rich's death, offered a $20,000 reward (later upping it) for any details that lead to the capture of his killer. Julian Assange never admitted publicly that Rich was an information leaker, but he didn't deny it and claimed that he would never jeopardize or give up his sources, alive, or dead. (I fully believe Seth Rich was a DNC leaker)

- He was killed with two gun shots to the back. He was still alive when found but died at the hospital due to his injuries. DC Police attributed the murder to a "robbery gone wrong". Funny thing is this "robbery" happened in the Bloomingdale neighborhood in DC. For anyone who has spent time in DC (as I have), they know that this area is not a high crime area in DC and well known for its night life and entertainment options. Many politicians and business men frequent this area conducting business. Another funny fact, Seth Rich was left with his wallet, and cell phone. For a supposed "robbery", that strikes me as peculiar.

- Rod Wheeler, a retired Washington homicide detective, and a FBI forensics report on Rich's laptop, both indicate that he may have been in contact with Gavin MacFadyen prior to his death. Who is Gavin? He is a former director of the WikiLeaks organization and close ally of Julian Assange. He died ONE MONTH after WikiLeaks dropped the DNC bombshell on their collusion against Bernie Sanders after his condition worsened drastically due to his battle with lung cancer.

So while every Democrat and MSM news source is trying to invent a Russian fantasy out of thin air, not many eyes are focused on the Seth Rich - WikiLeaks story that is currently developing. It just smells extremely stinky, and all the smells seems to indicate the DNC. Very scary stuff.

Which story passes the "sniff test" here? Russian cyber hackers in a plot to get Trump elected, since they somehow believed he would be more friendly to their interest, hacked the DNC e-mails and leaked them to WikiLeaks, or an internal DNC worker (Rich) saw how his own party was colluding against a major democratic candidate by holding a soviet style primary, and became dis-enamored with his parties behavior, and contacted WikiLeaks?

One of those sounds like a Tom Clancy Novel, the other sounds, to me at least, a very plausible reason of how the DNC's e-mails, and corruption was exposed by WikiLeaks.

Entitlemented says

I thought that between the time Clinton met the Attornee General "accidently" on the Tarmac in the west, and the announcement by Comey with him stepping into a role of attorney general "Surrogate" was terrible form.

And we'd have never know, but for an aviation enthusiast who could identify the craft.

The AG meeting with the husband of a subject under investigation stinks worse that the Fulton Fish Market.

socal2 says

bob2356 says

Tin foil hat time. Really big tin foil hat. The president can't keep getting blowjob secret.

Yet the Media and the entire Democrat party seem to believe that Trump is somehow a Russian puppet?

Talk about tinfoil hat time!

Earth to socal2. I posted quoted an article from a pro trump news source referenced by trump fan #1 patrick himself. This is the media and entire democratic party to you?

marcus says

McMaster didn't even deny it was highly classified, neither did Trump for that matter. He argued it's his prerogative to declassify on the fly - which is true, no matter how sloppy and imprudent it is.

McMaster only stated that sources and methods weren't disclosed. But evidently, the source didn't give permission to disclose the info to Russia. Although the whole thing does beg the question, why is this out in the public sphere, making it worse. Apparently it's becasue Trump needs to learn some humility about the learning curve of doing that job (never going ot happen).

C'mon socal, catch up.

This is a fair assessment.

Are you suggesting trump leaked though? Its as good a theory as Ive heard. I actually think Trump benefited greatly from this... the MSM otoh stepped on their own dick again

indc says

Hope Trump's shady behavior is for enrichment of US and the world

Well, I hate to break your hopes, but Trump's shadiness is absolutely for the enrichment of the Trump family. Ivanka will be getting rich off the trademarks that the Chinese government gave them after meeting with Trump. Trump is getting rich off all the government money that Trump is forcing the government to spend at Mar-a-Lago. And who knows what else is going on with the Russians.

Goran_K says

rando says

Please post more about Seth Rich if you find anything interesting.

It's very interesting. Extremely scary material IMO. This is all that I have gathered up until now.

- Seth Rich was killed 12 days before WikiLeaks released details about the DNC cooperating against popular Democrat Candidate Bernie Sanders. This lead to Debbie Wasserman being ousted as DNC head, and lead to a 6 point MSM polling drop for Hillary Clinton (we now know that the polling drop was probably much more drastic based on how the actual election went and revelations of "under sampling" in MSM polls).

- WikiLeaks, soon after Rich's death, offered a $20,000 reward (later upping it) for any details that lead to the capture of his killer. Julian Assange never admitted publicly that Rich was an information leaker, but he didn't deny it and claimed that he would never jeopardize or give up h...

This is exactly why the DNC wont let the FBI examine their servers, and why their private hosting company put out the fake russian report.