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Dan8267 says

why should you even care if your genes survive? They aren't you.

ME, ME, ME. I guess that's the point: having kids is not about YOU.

We need that law, folks! One child policy. Particular heroes - Nobel Prize winners, Medal of Honor Winners, National Science Academy Members, can have a second child without the $100,000 bond.

Dan8267 says

2. It does not matter how much land there is. Demand will grow without bounds if land hording is profitable.

There is no land hording. It's a simple supply/demand. Something liberals clearly don't understand very well, when (demand > supply = prices go up). It's free to live on all that empty land between LA and SF, but no one wants to live there. Yet everyone crowds into a tiny square space in SF or LA downtown for good paying jobs and screams it's unaffordable. Well, duh!

Dan you liberals really don't do well with economics, it's not your thing. All you know is equality and hand outs, and that's the base you reason from, hence you will never be right.

Heraclitusstudent says

A specious argument considering even 1 gene can make a huge difference and evolution works at the margin.

This hardly advocates self reproduction since that 1 gene is just as likely to be in your sexual competitor as it is to be in you. Tell me, does anyone willingly forgo reproduction and a desirable mate because one's competitor may be genetically better?

In any case, even very important genes tend to get clobbered in modern populations because they cannot compete with all the competitions. For example, there are two common types of cholesterol, low density (LDL) and high density (HDL), with LDL being bad and HDL being good. However, there is a gene in people in an isolated community in Italy that produces a third kind of high density cholesterol that is super good and caused the people there to live very long and healthy lives. This gene was brought in by an individual that migrated to the isolated community. Had he not, the gene would have never had the opportunity to flourish.

The moral of the story is that if you were actually concerned about advancing human evolution more quickly, you'd isolated all of humanity into many small pockets and rarely interbred them.

Heraclitusstudent says

Designer babies may or may not happen.

History has shown that if there is a demand for something and it's not forbidden by the laws of nature, eventually technology will make it happen.

Heraclitusstudent says

Civilization may collapse before they do,

In which case, there would be far greater problems to worry about than your genetic code. In any case, if civilization is to collapse, it most likely would happen due to something caused, at least largely, by overpopulation.

Heraclitusstudent says

ME, ME, ME. I guess that's the point: having kids is not about YOU.

Projecting much?

My philosophy has always been "the messenger is irrelevant".

Why are you so ego-eccentric?

TwoScoopsMcGee says

We need that law, folks! One child policy. Particular heroes - Nobel Prize winners, Medal of Honor Winners, National Science Academy Members, can have a second child without the $100,000 bond.

I would simply make parenting something that requires a license that includes a financial responsibility test such as $100k in savings per child. For great scientists, give them $100k or more so they automatically qualify.

FortWayne says

There is no land hording.

It's amazing how divorce your mind is from reality. Obviously you know nothing about New York City where landlords have horded land for generations. Or about foreigners buying up real estate in Florida.

FortWayne says

Something liberals clearly don't understand very well, when (demand > supply = prices go up).

I fully understand that. What you clearly do not understand is that land hording both increases demand and decreases supply, which means prices go up. Why do I have to explain such obvious things to you?

FortWayne says

Dan you liberals really don't do well with economics, it's not your thing.

Oh honey, I've given numerous real world examples of why the conservative right sucks at economics, business, and running an economy. That greatly outweighs your baseless assertion.

Dan8267 says

Heraclitusstudent says

ME, ME, ME. I guess that's the point: having kids is not about YOU.

Projecting much?

My philosophy has always been "the messenger is irrelevant".

Why are you so ego-eccentric?

Dan, that's because ppl (like Hera'), believe that children are some extension of their soul's incarnation's function on this earth. I believe it's a mix of ego-centrism and spiritual mumbo jumbo, whether it's Judaeo-Christian or some New Age claptrap.

In the end, those ppl can't stand the thought of dying alone and thus, require an entourage of weeping descendants at their wake, to give themselves some validation.

My prayer is that Hera' does in fact, die alone and thus, is forced to address this psychological issue, even if it's on his deathbed.

Dan8267 says

Heraclitusstudent says

Designer babies may or may not happen.

History has shown that if there is a demand for something and it's not forbidden by the laws of nature, eventually technology will make it happen.

Designer babies are almost guaranteed to happen, given the pace of change in bioinformatics and genomic therapies.

Rin says

Designer babies are almost guaranteed to happen, given the pace of change in bioinformatics and genomic therapies.

The 21st century will be dominated by sex bots and designer babies and A.I. assistants.

Dan8267 says

The 21st century will be dominated by sex bots and designer babies and A.I. assistants

For me, I only care about the sex bots. I've got a lot to do, w/o needing to worry about my next boink!

Dan8267 says

I would simply make parenting

Good thing you can't really make anything. Except walls of text on patnet that is.

Rin says

Dan8267 says

The 21st century will be dominated by sex bots and designer babies and A.I. assistants

For me, I only care about the sex bots. I've got a lot to do, w/o needing to worry about my next boink!

Rin is clearly making up for the rest of the society.

Dan8267 says

FortWayne says

There is no land hording.

It's amazing how divorce your mind is from reality. Obviously you know nothing about New York City where landlords have horded land for generations. Or about foreigners buying up real estate in Florida.

That's called investing, not hoarding.

Dan8267 says

FortWayne says

Something liberals clearly don't understand very well, when (demand > supply = prices go up).

I fully understand that. What you clearly do not understand is that land hording both increases demand and decreases supply, which means prices go up. Why do I have to explain such obvious things to you?

he he he. Dan, you really are very funny. Stop getting your education from the internet, and attend a real class.

Straw Man says

Good thing you can't really make anything. Except walls of text on patnet that is.

I could say the same about you.

At least I can justify the policies I propose. All you can do is verbally masturbate.

Strategist says

That's called investing, not hoarding.

90% of investing is hoarding.

These assholes didn't create the land, did they?

Strategist says

he he he. Dan, you really are very funny. Stop getting your education from the internet, and attend a real class.

Feel free to explain how hoarding land doesn't increase demand while decreasing supply. Go on, genius.

Rin says

Dan, that's because ppl (like Hera'), believe that children are some extension of their soul's incarnation's function on this earth. I believe it's a mix of ego-centrism and spiritual mumbo jumbo, whether it's Judaeo-Christian or some New Age claptrap.

In the end, those ppl can't stand the thought of dying alone and thus, require an entourage of weeping descendants at their wake, to give themselves some validation.

My prayer is that Hera' does in fact, die alone and thus, is forced to address this psychological issue, even if it's on his deathbed.

It's a natural, evolutionary instinct to want your cute little baby. Remember, every single ancestor of yours going back to the apes and well beyond had babies. If even one of them did not want a baby, you would never have been born. The best part of life is raising those little brats.

Strategist says

It's a natural, evolutionary instinct to want your cute little baby.

Just because something is an instinct, doesn't mean you should follow it.

Do you really want welfare queens crapping out a dozen babies?

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

That's called investing, not hoarding.

90% of investing is hoarding.

These assholes didn't create the land, did they?

So what if the "assholes" didn't create the land. Why do you call hoarding? I own vacant residential lots that I accumulated over the years. I plan on selling 4 or 5 of them in a few years when i think the real estate market has plateaued. That's investing, not hoarding.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

he he he. Dan, you really are very funny. Stop getting your education from the internet, and attend a real class.

Feel free to explain how hoarding land doesn't increase demand while decreasing supply. Go on, genius.

Please why you feel this way.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

It's a natural, evolutionary instinct to want your cute little baby.

Just because something is an instinct, doesn't mean you should follow it.

Instinct to want babies is that invisible force that turns into a desire to want babies. You don't have to follow it, but not wanting babies is just not natural.

Dan8267 says

Do you really want welfare queens crapping out a dozen babies?

Hell no. I would hate supporting babies that are not mine.

Strategist says

Please why you feel this way.

1. I think, not feel, that. I don't base my beliefs on artsy fartsy feelings. I base them on facts.
2. You are dodging the question.

Dan8267 says

90% of investing is hoarding.

These assholes didn't create the land, did they?

They didn't create companies or stocks or people who work for those companies, yet they still buy it. You simply don't understand investing.

Again your socialist backed reasoning is always going to be flawed as long as you begin with your SJW mentality of equal outcomes.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

Please why you feel this way.

1. I think, not feel, that. I don't base my beliefs on artsy fartsy feelings. I base them on facts.

2. You are dodging the question.

You cannot hoard land because there is so much of it with millions of owners. Hoarding commodities does occur like it did during WW2 where a group would buy up a certain commodity in short supply, wait for the price to jump, and then sell it. It's also very common in Africa where food shortages are common.
But it does not happen in land in the USA. Land is a long term investment. The does not entail hoarding.

Strategist says

You cannot hoard land because there is so much of it with millions of owners

It's just a problem of scale. As anyone knows, such problems can be overcome with organization. Enter the Real estate investment trust, where investors combine cash into hundreds of billions available to buy up property in prime locations and rent it back to consumers. Such a scheme is well able to hoard property, and is currently doing so.

FortWayne says

Dan8267 says

90% of investing is hoarding.

These assholes didn't create the land, did they?

They didn't create companies or stocks or people who work for those companies, yet they still buy it. You simply don't understand investing.

Honey buns, we're not even talking about stocks and companies. We're talking about land and why housing is expensive. Stick to the topic and stop flinging red herrings to cover your incompetence.

Strategist says

You cannot hoard land because there is so much of it with millions of owners.

Once again, you demonstrate your complete inability to grasp reality. We're not talking about land in North Dakota. Housing there is damn cheap.

We're talking land in NYC, Florida, Silicon Valley, and other places were housing is expensive. The fact is, it's damn cheap to build a house. What's not cheap is buying an existing house to tear down so that you can build the new house.

Land in an economically developed location is a scarce commodity. And you claim to know more about economics than I do. What a joke. My statements are obviously true.