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Considering the race of an applicant is inherently racist.

One solution is for white people to "identify" as a favored minority race to their advantage, all the time.

rando says

Considering the race of an applicant is inherently racist.

One solution is for white people to "identify" as a favored minority race to their advantage, all the time.

That's what I'm planning to do with my kids: putting "Hispanic" in every form which asks for race. Hey, they know two or three Spanish words, so it's all good.

And why could you not "identify" as a race you 'feel' you are. Race is far less biologically inherent than gender. In fact, at one time the left was squawking about the a social construct of race as a means of oppression. I am a pansexual panracial pandemic.

I think what may not be appreciated in the reported numbers is this. In the past, all that colored people had to show was that their representation in a given school, police department, company, etc did not reflect their representation in the population, and that was all that was needed to prove racism, and the resulting contorted remedies. By the same standard, white people are being subjected to racism. Is Al Sharpton going to be all over this?

georgeliberte says

And why could you not "identify" as a race you 'feel' you are. Race is far less biologically inherent than gender.

And what exactly are they doing to do to prove you're not of a race you self-identify with? Measure your scull? Bwhahahahahaha. Imagine the optics of that.

Asians are 400% represented at Harvard, but I'm sure they turned ten times that number down for admission. In fact, I'll bet that as an Asian, you'd have to have remarkably better scores and everything than even white people to get in.

If the school wanted to go merit only, it would be 75% Asian, 20% white, and 5% other. So Harvard does have a damn point. But that's mostly because Asian Americans have a cultural bias for attending Ivy League and especially Harvard. Tiger moms have top street cred when their coddled offspring get into that school!

Quigley says

Asians are 400% represented at Harvard, but I'm sure they turned ten times that number down for admission. In fact, I'll bet that as an Asian, you'd have to have remarkably better scores and everything than even white people to get in.

If the school wanted to go merit only, it would be 75% Asian, 20% white, and 5% other. So Harvard does have a damn point. But that's mostly because Asian Americans have a cultural bias for attending Ivy League and especially Harvard. Tiger moms have top street cred when their coddled offspring get into that school!

UC Berkeley already showed what happens when you don't discriminate against Asians. The fact that the asians tried to take this to court and lost is completely laughable in the eyes of justice.

Blurtman says

At Harvard

Oh Pleaz....

Look, I'd taken two classes at Harvard undergrad, as a special student, and gotten two A's ... BFD!

Seriously, there's nothing special about that place, which admits dickwad elites like Jared Kushner and Al Gore Jr, into their undergraduate programs. And realize, Al Gore had flunked out of his future law program at Vanderbilt. These are F's, not C's & D's! Al Gore should never have been admitted to any law program out there.

If Harvard undergrads were such geniuses ... all of them, yes, ALL OF THEM, could have learned everything on their own and started in graduate school, at the age of 19-20.

Be honest with yourselves, the very, very best students in America, don't need to attend any undergraduate program out there. They should start their lives in graduate school or do something else.

Rin says

Look, I'd taken two classes at Harvard undergrad, as a special student, and gotten two A's ... BFD!

Regular students take 5 classes simultaneously, not 2. It is not only the difficulty of the classes, but also the workload that is different at the top schools.

anon_38710 says

Rin says

Look, I'd taken two classes at Harvard undergrad, as a special student, and gotten two A's ... BFD!

Regular students take 5 classes simultaneously, not 2. It is not only the difficulty of the classes, but also the workload that is different at the top schools.

Nonsense, at Harvard undergrad, it's 4 per semester.

And I was working at the time, so sure, if I didn't need to work, I could have wiped out 4 A's.

Also, don't forget grade inflation, if I'd pulled an Al Gore, and did no work, I'd get a B-/C+, instead of A's.

Seriously, those who believe that ivies are these amazing places, outside of the admissions criteria, are very deluded.

Please, don't give me that bullshit, Harvard undergrad is not engineering at Georgia Tech, nor the London School of Economics.

HU is overrated!

Rin says

Nonsense, at Harvard undergrad, it's 4 per semester.

And I was working at the time, so sure, if I didn't need to work, I could have wiped out 4 A's.

Also, don't forget grade inflation, if I'd pulled an Al Gore, and did no work, I'd get a B-/C+, instead of A's.

Seriously, those who believe that ivies are these amazing places, outside of the admissions criteria, are very deluded.

Please, don't give me that bullshit, Harvard undergrad is not engineering at Georgia Tech, nor the London School of Economics.

HU is overrated!

Well, at the Ivy that I went to, undergrads and some grads (like my wife) were taking 5 courses. Some grads were taking 3 but were required to TA 20h/week (it was really that much). The assignments were really long. The grades were curved so that B (or was is B-?) is the average. So no grade inflation.

It is a fact that on average(!) the top ranked universities attract better (smarter and/or harder working) students. This makes possible teaching more intense courses at higher level.
My colleagues almost all have PhD's and the majority undergrad degrees from Ivy's or equivalent (Stanford, MIT, CalTech, Berkeley).

Rin says

Seriously, those who believe that ivies are these amazing places, outside of the admissions criteria, are very deluded.

I believe it.

I recently spoke to a physics professor who taught at Berkley. He said the way the school made him grade was to curve so that the top 25% of scores, no matter how bad, got A's. The next 25% B's, the next 25-50% C's, then most of the rest got D's, and only very very few got F's if they were extremely bad.

FP says

he assignments were really long. The grades were curved so that B (or was is B-?) is the average. So no grade inflation.

I don't know what school you're talking about but at Harvard, a "B-", is considered below average. On the whole, one is expected to get B's, B+'s, A-'s, and A's. Sure, the flat A's are a bit restricted but so what? It's not on some absolute grading standard.

My senior partner had attended the University of London for his LLM. Before, he'd gone to Penn and Columbia and was dean's list at both Ivies. At London, however, he was lower half second class honours because he was up against the best of the British Commonwealth (see Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore, India, etc), where everyone showed up, prepared for class. At London, the marks are absolute ... 70%+ is a 1st, 60%+ is a 2nd.

You get the picture, an idiot Harvard alum like Al Gore would flunk out.

Quigley says

Asians are 400% represented at Harvard, but I'm sure they turned ten times that number down for admission. In fact, I'll bet that as an Asian, you'd have to have remarkably better scores and everything than even white people to get in.

If the school wanted to go merit only, it would be 75% Asian, 20% white, and 5% other. So Harvard does have a damn point. But that's mostly because Asian Americans have a cultural bias for attending Ivy League and especially Harvard. Tiger moms have top street cred when their coddled offspring get into that school!

No, they don't have a point.

Rin says

My senior partner had attended the University of London for his LLM.

You are making a lot out of this single anecdote. Perhaps your partner did not do well in London because he came from a different high school system. Bright US students eventually catch up with their peers.

I had a few US classmates who were not among the best students in the first 1-2 yeas of grad school, but eventually did quite well. One is now a prof at Princeton.

FP

Identity politics were a mistake.

http://www.businessinsider.com/white-people-believe-they-are-under-attack-2017-12 55% of white Americans now think white people are being racially discriminated against

So even when whites raise a concern it is written off as racism by whites. And their concerns are 'not grounded in reality'. The article rely on generalizations and places people into categories very glibly. As the article's writer is fond of saying, 'It goes without saying' Of course, she still feels the need to say it anyway.

epitaph says

Identity politics were a mistake

A big fucking mistake! And part of the reason trump won! Regular non-racists voted for him to vote against the racist Left!

WineHorror says

No, they don't have a point.

What a scintillating refutation of my opinion post! The breadth of your logical argument astounds me and truly I am persuaded!

/snicker

anonymous says

Who is looking out for the rights of white Americans?

Aryan Brotherhood, Neo-Nazis, White Supremacists, National Alliance, most of the enforcement and state governments in southern states. Northern States too.

The public is largely unaware of the groups' activities, said Devin Burghart, author of the report and director of the center's Building Democracy Initiative.

“It's underneath that veil of ignorance that these organizations grow,” he told The Cleveland Plain Dealer for a Saturday story.

The Center for New Community is tracking 338 white-nationalist groups active in Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska and Wisconsin.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2001/11/12/loc_study_ohio_has_most.html
Recent events have pretty well exposed the racial leanings of Virginia and North Carolina.

It's fair to say that you should have no problems at all finding one of those groups to join if you like and then you too can start fighting for your race.

http://people.missouristate.edu/MichaelCarlie/Storage/white_supremacist_groups.htm

Only about 25,000 Americans are hardcore ideological activists for the white supremacist movement, a tiny fraction of the white population. They are organized into approximately 300 different organizations. No two groups are exactly alike. They ranging from seemingly innocuous religious sects or tax protesters to openly militant, even violent, neo-Nazi skinheads and Ku Klux Klan Klaverns. The basic underpinnings of these organizations is they are rooted in religion, which is combined with a paramilitary, survivalists, or anarchists operational approach. Currently, Klan groups are on the decline while more Hitler-inspired groups, like the National Alliance and the Church of the Creator, are growing in numbers and influence. Swastikas and Uzis are replacing hoods and crosses.
Some 150,000 to 200,000 people subscribe to racist publications, attend their marches and rallies, and donate money. Approximately 100 hatelines are in operation, with recorded messages that propagandize the caller with hate-motivated speeches and publicize upcoming meetings and rallies. Because of their increasingly sophisticated use of the media and electronic technology, there are 150 independent racist radio and television shows that air weekly and reach hundreds of thousands of sympathizers.

Nice picture you got there too

Trust me, anybody in 2017 who is calling a recorded message line or subscribed to a newsletter is not exactly the future. They are probably counting the beeps on the dialysis machine.

I mean, that went a long time ago, back when it was cool to have two flaming gif torches, Olde English Font Title, and an open mailbox for your email icon on your Geocities webpage. I think maybe once when I was 13-14 somebody pranked called a party line or something. Millenials I am sure don't even know WTF a party line or recorded message line is, unless they saw it in an 'old' movie.

"These Neo Nazi groups are so modern, they have beepers and phone chains."

liberals decided to play identity politics, by trying to blame white people and get everyone else into an anti-white group. Simply a power move by left wing, trying to create a cash cow for themselves. So far just created tons of racism, and truly brought to the open all the anti-white racism that existed in this country. Left are the real nazis.

anon_79116 says

Perhaps your partner did not do well in London because he came from a different high school system.

Before London, he'd gotten two degrees, one from Penn and the other, from Columbia.

Thus, he was well removed from high school.