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bob2356 saysWhich countries do you feel are healthier and what is healthier to you?
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bob2356 saysIreland, England, NZ, Australia, Canada are all within 2-3% of US obesity.nope, wrong again.
It's not our healthcare that causes lower life expectancy and higher infant mortality rates, it's our lifestyle decisions.
What would be wrong with raising taxes by 10% or whatever it took, if it replaced the cost paid out of pockets and payrolls? Healthcare already costs $10,000 per person.
BTW, the biggest revenue recipient from both programs is the American Hospital Association, based in Chicago. It would require willful ignorance to believe a Chicago politician would have no connection to that patronage network. There was huge momentum towards change in 2008, but it got subverted in 2009 and 2010. Research got cut, protecting subsidies for entrenched revenue models against potentially disruptive innovation.
If you want a government run system, then copy one that works well
There isn't one that works well....
There isn't one that works well, that's the problem. People think government is the solution, but the fact is that government is the problem.
Hey, some people think getting millions in donations from Uranium One affiliates and Russian Oligarchs and Financiers has nothing to do with somebody voting for approval for a foreign company buying a strategic asset. The donations beginning with the application and tailing off after the approval.
WarrenTheApe saysThe whole reason why health care is expensive is because of the government. Period.
Because most politicians are in the pockets of special interests.
FortWayne says
There isn't one that works well, that's the problem. People think government is the solution, but the fact is that government is the problem.
Still waiting for the list of countries doing so well with the solution of free market health care rather than the problem of public health care. It is coming soon ins't it?
Still waiting for a list of government ran healthcare of our national size better than ours...
bob2356 saysFortWayne says
There isn't one that works well, that's the problem. People think government is the solution, but the fact is that government is the problem.
Still waiting for the list of countries doing so well with the solution of free market health care rather than the problem of public health care. It is coming soon ins't it?
Still waiting for a list of government ran healthcare of our national size better than ours...
Still waiting for a list of government run healthcare of our national size, with proportional legal immigration coverage, and also servicing illegal immigrants free of charge.
The only health care illegals get is ER and they are triaged away if they don't really need an ER.
Canada, Germany, Australia, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Singapore, Isreal, Lebanon, Sweden, Austria, Ireland, New Zealand, Luxembourg, Cyprus, and a whole bunch of small countries all have a higher portion of immigrants than the US.
bob2356 saysThe only health care illegals get is ER and they are triaged away if they don't really need an ER.
The very article you linked disproves this statement.
Nice try: most of countries on the list have much tighter control on who is admitted. We have a fucking semi-open border with a 3rd World country and catch-and-release policy.
with proportional legal immigration coverage
Satoshi_Nakamoto saysNice try: most of countries on the list have much tighter control on who is admitted. We have a fucking semi-open border with a 3rd World country and catch-and-release policy.
You didn't manage to follow the conversation somehow. The statement was.
BlueSardine sayswith proportional legal immigration coverage
What does catch and release have to do with legal immigration?
bob2356 saysThe only health care illegals get is ER and they are triaged away if they don't really need an ER.
WarrenTheApe saysWhat do you mean that you sell medicare policies?
You can be a broker for supplemental to Medicare Part A and B and Medicare part C plans (plans run by insurers - paid by Medicare). I don't think you can sell Medicare Part A or B itself.
Medicare advantage typically covers all bases in one policy BUT is limited to a carriers network, which often is quite smaller than the general Medicare network. Social security will pay advantage carriers for covering their responsibility AND the client will cover some of the premium as well.
Carriers such as Blue Cross, Aetna, Humana, Scott and White, etc... make a huge amount of money selling Medicare plans and they spend an enormous amount on advertising and marketing to grow their customer base.f
Medical insurance makes finance look like and fair business by comparison. The govt regulations are literally transferring hundreds of billions per year from the average person to the insurance companies and medical care providers. It's fucking sickening... but I do make a lot of money doing it :)
If anything fucks with the gravy train, the doctors will have only one choice: getting their patients PIN numbers at gun point and shooting them after emptying their bank accounts. Libby fucks have no clue.
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