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Trump Lie Tracker


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2018 Jun 29, 4:06pm   9,477 views  80 comments

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Washpo, in their unbiased wisdom, has chosen to gift us with this live Trump Lie Tracker. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.0a11c2edd385 Over 3200 lies during his presidency to date? Whoa. Lets examine...

I am genuinely interested if we can examine Trump's actual quoted words and come to agreement on which are lies, and which are misinterpretations.

Please find his lies (3200 to choose from) and tell us how horrible he is -OR- find his words misinterpreted by WashPo, and tell us why they are fake news.

Discuss, but no flaming you wimps.

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33   MrMagic   2018 Jun 30, 7:27pm  

marcus says
I'm the one that agrees with all the educated literate types that believe Trump lies all the time.


Short memory??

Obama, His Greatest Lies.

1. I will have the most transparent administration.
2. I have Shovel-Ready jobs.
3. The IRS is not targeting anyone.
4. There is not a smidgen of corruption involving the IRS targeting.
5. If four Americans get killed, it is not optimal.
6. So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can, it’s just that it will bankrupt them.
7. Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.
8. Obamacare will be good for America.
9. You can keep your family doctor.
10. You’re going to be able to purchase high-quality health insurance for less than the cost of your cellphone bill.
11. Healthcare insurance premiums will be lowered by $2500.
12. You can keep your current healthcare plan.
13. Just shop around, for that healthcare I claimed you wouldn't lose.
14. I am sorry you lost your healthcare, (you know the health care you have to shop around for, the same healthcare I said you could keep, yup, that's the one).
15. I did not say you could keep your healthcare. (Regardless that 29 recorded videos show I did).
16. Obamacare will not be offered to illegal immigrants.
17. Obamacare will not be used to fund abortions.
18. Obamacare will cost less than 1 Trillion Dollars.
19. No one making under $250,000 will see their taxes raised one dime.
20. It is Bushes fault. (This can be inserted in between every statement).
21. It was about a movie.
22. I will fundamentally transform America. (This one sadly is very true.)
23. If I had a son.
24. I am not a dictator.
25. I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
26. You didn't build that.
27. I will restore trust in Government.
28. The Cambridge police acted stupidly.
29. I am not after your guns.
30. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. The BHO of (2006).
31. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics.
32. "If I don't have this done in three years, this is going to be a one-term proposition."
33. I do think at a certain point you've made enough money.
34. I think when you spread the wealth around; it's good for everybody.
35. The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk.
36. It's not my red line it is the worlds red line.
37. Whistle blowers will be protected.
38. We got back Every Dime we used to Rescue the Banks, with interest.
39. I am good at killing people.
40. I will close Gitmo. (But, instead, built them a $750,000 soccer field.)
41. The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't, but she is a typical white person.
42. I am not spying on American citizens.
43. By, on, on, by, Friday uh afternoon things get a little uh, uh challenged uh, uh (when his TelePrompTer broke and he was left to think for himself).
44. I am a Christian.
45. If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them.
46. Under my plan electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. It will force America to conserve power.
47. John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.
48. It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy.
49. UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems. (Attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare.)
50. The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.
51. You didn’t build that.
52. Obama says burning building in Baltimore riots looped on television over and over and over again.
53. No nuke deal unless inspectors have 24/7 access to Iran’s entire nuclear facilities.
54. I’m not a king, I can’t just ignore immigration laws.
55. We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care.
56. The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
57. If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it. No matter what.
58. If You Like Your Doctor, You Can Keep Your Doctor. Period.
59. Obamacare will cost less than your monthly cell phone bill.
60. Obamacare will save your family $2,500 a year in premiums.
61. I'm gonna slash those VA wait times & backlogs.
62. I vow to start working with congress.
63. No one in the White House was aware of this until we saw it on the news.
64. The border is secure.
65. I will not allow Iran to have nuclear weapons.
66. Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”.
67. Benghazi violence was caused by an Internet video & demonstrations.
68. Sequestration will cost a million jobs (CBO claims one (1) job was lost).
69. I didn’t set a red line.
70. I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
71. The War on Terror is over.
72. The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.
73. We don’t have a domestic spying program.
74. We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system.
75. We only changed one word in the Benghazi talking points.
76. The IRS scandal was just 2 rogue agents in Cincinnati.
77. My budget will cut the deficit by $4 trillion over 10 years.
78. I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
79. I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever.
80. Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions.
81. Obama Care Fee is not a new tax.
82. We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
83. The Health Care Package will pay for itself.
84. Islam is the religion of peace.
85. Christians need to get off their high horse.
86. This was not a terrorist attack, It was workplace violence.
87. Before we jump to conclusions, we must complete a full investigation and gather the facts after an Islamic terrorist attack.
88. After every officer shooting of a black person before any facts are gathered, racism is alive and well.
89. ISIS is the JV team.

And, the biggest lie of all:
"I, Barack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America."
34   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 6:59am  

marcus says
I gave you a lis


Ahh so you refuse to pick a single lie out, or even present and defend a single fact supporting one of the "lies", OR respond to a single point I made regarding the few we have discussed.

Thanks for the links from the "experts" calling Trump a liar. You are displaying the dishonesty of today's left, which speaks volumes about you and your affiliations.

Exactly as the forum expected.
35   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 7:01am  

Sniper says
Short memory??


Yeah multiply each if those by 500 the way washpo did in their Trump list.

This Trump=liar meme has no credibility. This is proof propaganda works
36   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 7:03am  

CBOEtrader says
Go find the lie and show us.


Still waiting for @Marcus or anyone else to stick their neck out and show us Trump's big lie. Should be easy if there are thousands of them.
37   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 9:13am  

The PolitiFact scorecard on Drumpf statements, claims etc. up to 29 June 2018

True 27 (5%)

Mostly True 68 (12%)

Half True 87 (15%)

Mostly False 125 (22%)

False 183 (32%)

Pants on Fire 84 (15%)

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
38   MrMagic   2018 Jul 1, 10:10am  

Kakistocracy says
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/


Politifact??

The one owned by the Left wing, radical, Lefty, newspaper, The Tampa Bay Times?

Sure, that's a credible source (NOT).
39   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 11:33am  

Sniper says
Sure, that's a credible source (NOT).


Yeah that's exactly why I want someone to stand behind a single lie. The gauntlet has been thrown and noone will accept the challenge.

Still waiting.
40   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 11:54am  

marcus says
You want to imply that the lies I gave you


Which claim would you like to defend? I discussed the #1 claim in that list w specific reasons I see it as willful mischaracterization.

You have not offered a single shred of feedback other than "Trump lies. You bad."

Still waiting.
41   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 11:56am  

marcus says
right wing


Very few right wingers here. Mostly libertarians.

You are displaying your leftist indoctrinated brainwashing. "Everyone who doesnt think like us is a nazi? Sounds reasonable."
42   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 11:59am  

@Marcus that's the 3rd time you've gone to ad hom instead of discuss the topic.

I am sorry you can't argue facts. Apparently neither can anyone who thinks Trump is a liar. Just paste hitpieces and walk off... lol so weak.

Step up, get behind a single lie, and let's discuss.
43   MrMagic   2018 Jul 1, 12:32pm  

marcus says
You want to imply that the lies I gave you, ones people identified as his biggest lies don't stand up to scrutiny,


A list of lies from KNOWN left wing, radical, liberal websites don't stand up to scrutiny. Everyone of the links you posted above are known for their regular Hit Pieces on Trump and lean heavily to the radical left.

Maybe pick a neutral site, that might have some credibility with others here, otherwise it's just more TDS.
44   MrMagic   2018 Jul 1, 12:35pm  

marcus says
I did a google search (or perhaps it was bing) of Patrick.net, and two highlighted member lists of posts were those of Rin and Sniper.


I just did a search, here is my results:



marcus says
This site has gone to hell.


Except, the search results are tied to your past search and browsing history, It's all saved, and served back up based on history...

What does that say about your surfing past?
45   MrMagic   2018 Jul 1, 12:36pm  

CBOEtrader says
This Trump=liar meme has no credibility. This is proof propaganda works


No truer words have ever been spoken. They're not called "sheep" for no reason.
46   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 12:58pm  

HEYYOU says
Where's comments 3,4 ,8,9,10,11,12,13,14?


Want to take a guess ?
47   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 12:59pm  

Sniper says
Maybe pick a neutral site, that might have some credibility with others here, otherwise it's just more TDS.


Suggest one - or it's more Trump Delusional Syndrome other than just screaming fake news, TDS, etc..
48   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:00pm  

Sniper says
They're not called "sheep" for no reason.


Been hanging around in a barn with Potus ?
49   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:03pm  

CBOEtrader says
@Marcus that's the 3rd time you've gone to ad hom instead of discuss the topic.


Bothered to re-read some of the other comments on this thread before accusing someone else ?
50   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:05pm  

CBOEtrader says

Exactly as the forum expected.


That someone from the Drumpf camp will scream TDS, Fake News, Hit Piece, Liberal etc. and mount a group attack like a pack of starved hyenas ?

Was totally expected from my perspective. Pretty much par for the course.
51   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:06pm  

marcus says
Try it on bing


Gonna have to explain what that is so as not to get Drumpf supporters confused with "Tang" or similar....just sayin. Hell they might be running to the pantry on that one.
52   marcus   2018 Jul 1, 1:07pm  

It's the default MS explorer or Edge browser.
53   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:07pm  

Sniper says
The one owned by the Left wing, radical, Lefty, newspaper, The Tampa Bay Times?


Back up the allegations with something substantial....other than offering a personal assesment
54   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:09pm  

Where are comments 3,4 ,8,9,10,11,12,13,14 ? Inquiring minds would like to know
55   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:10pm  

CBOEtrader says
Very few right wingers here. Mostly libertarians.


OFMG - now that's a whopper
56   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:13pm  

Sniper says
Everyone of the links you posted above are known for their regular Hit Pieces on Trump and lean heavily to the radical left.


Any examples of those regular "hit pieces" ?

What is the "radical left" ? Any examples ?
57   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 1:15pm  

CBOEtrader says
Apparently neither can anyone who thinks Trump is a liar


This is a fun game isn't it ?

Someone is challenged to go and provide some back up to a challenge and when presented with something, the challenger and select company scream fake news, TDS, Hit Piece, Liberal Propaganda and on and on and on.

Simple games for simple minds and their is no shortage of simple minds amongst the Drumpf supporters on the forum.
58   MrMagic   2018 Jul 1, 2:15pm  

marcus says
YOu can call the Washington post or the NYT liberal rags that write hit pieces on Trump, becasue they focus on his lies.


Nah, they just write hit pieces because they're a liberal rag that hates Trump. Why not call it like it is?

marcus says
Try it on bing


People actually use Bing? How cute!
59   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 2:19pm  

Kakistocracy says
CBOEtrader says

Exactly as the forum expected.


That someone from the Drumpf camp


You, nor Marcus nor anyone else who says trump is a liar have so far chosen a single example to get behind.

I picked apart #1 from Marcus's list, with no response.

Why can none of you stick your neck out to show us Trump is a liar?
60   MrMagic   2018 Jul 1, 2:19pm  

Kakistocracy says
Sniper says
The one owned by the Left wing, radical, Lefty, newspaper, The Tampa Bay Times?


Back up the allegations with something substantial....other than offering a personal assesment


Like this?



Damn, those Pesky facts again....

Kakistocracy says
Any examples of those regular "hit pieces" ?


Go to each of those links, why must I spell this out for the Liberals?


Kakistocracy says
What is the "radical left" ? Any examples ?



Kakistocracy says
This is a fun game isn't it ?


Certainly is, the panic in the Democrat land is very amusing, after all the smack downs they've received the past week or so. MAJOR TDS on display...

Best entertainment ever!!
61   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 2:22pm  

Leftists, please fill in the blank:

Trump lied when he said "FILL YOUR ANSWER IN HERE".

Please then present any evidence to support above.

A TDS infested hit piece is not an argument.
62   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 2:24pm  

Kakistocracy says
This is a fun game isn't it ?

Someone is challenged


No. It's sad that the people who scream Trump is a liar, can't get behind one lie. Not one single lie? Use your words and post one quote you feel is a huge Trump lie our of 3200 in the list I gave you?

The forum is waiting.
63   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 3:16pm  

Sniper says
Nah, they just write hit pieces because they're a liberal rag that hates Trump. Why not call it like it is?


Why not - provide some proof of the allegations
64   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 3:19pm  

CBOEtrader says
The forum is waiting.


Lets reboot - refute beyond a shawdow of a doubt the False 183 (32%) and Pants on Fire 84 (15%) statements/lies from Poltifact source or is that too much to ask.

This was conveniently brushed aside - why is that ?

The forum also awaits or are we in for another round of Fake News, TDS, etc. with help from starving hyenas (my apologies to the real hyenas)
65   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 3:22pm  

Rightists, please fill in the blank:

Trump didn't lie when he said "FILL YOUR ANSWER IN HERE".

Please then present any evidence to support above.

Additionally please provide proof beyond any possible reasonable doubt said documents from Politifact etc. are TDS infested hit pieces. Details gentlemen (I use that term extremely loosely) Details...facts...not heresay or twitter pictures.
66   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 3:24pm  

CBOEtrader says
No. It's sad that the people who scream Trump is a liar, can't get behind one lie. Not one single lie? Use your words and post one quote you feel is a huge Trump lie our of 3200 in the list I gave you? (this is actually a statement and does not require a question mark)

The forum is waiting.


See - this is a fun game. Someone gets to say something, someone else has a "gotcha" moment and then shouts down the answer with TDS, Fake News, Hit Piece without once offering anything substantial to back it up.

This game has been around a long long time on the forum...
67   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 3:28pm  

Sniper says
Go to each of those links, why must I spell this out for the Liberals?


Sounds like personal bias based on heresay and nothing more than baseless allegations unless further proof is offered.

Lovely picture, anything other than that to back up the gibberish ?

Filling in for Two Scoops nowadays ?
68   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 3:30pm  

Is this going to be another round of the hyenas answering for each other ?
69   anonymous   2018 Jul 1, 3:39pm  

Sniper says
Like this?



Damn, those Pesky facts again....


Not seeing anything unusual - care to fully expand on how this example of "facts" provides irrefutable evidence to back up the allegations ?
70   CBOEtrader   2018 Jul 1, 4:35pm  

Kakistocracy says
See - this is a fun game.


If you have a valid lie, please quote Trump and explain why you think it's a lie.

It's an open invitation for dialogue not yet accepted once.
71   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Jul 1, 5:13pm  

Kakistocracy says
Lets reboot - refute beyond a shawdow of a doubt the False 183 (32%) and Pants on Fire 84 (15%) statements/lies from Poltifact source or is that too much to ask.


Not how it works. Those making the assertion - that somebody is guilty of lying - are responsible for providing evidence.
72   marcus   2018 Jul 1, 5:54pm  

TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Not how it works. Those making the assertion - that somebody is guilty of lying - are responsible for providing evidence.


There is plenty of evidence given with each pants on fire level lie. And aslo with some of the links I posted that were deleted. The funny thing is, that even among republicans that aren't totally dishonest dirtbags, Trump's lying, that is the fact that he lies constantly, in a totally different way than any other politician in modern times, about things both important and unimportant, is not a debatable topic.

I'm guessing that even TPB would agree that Trump is bullshitting constantly, constantly lying. That's why he likes him (correct me if I'm wrong).

You like it. Okay. His lying that is. CBOE wants to say it really isn't lying. OR he wants want to insist I talk about one specific lie. I've already seen two failed attempts to discredit two of his t very unimportant lies (that were totally 100% lies). If I thought he was capable of arguing about Trump in good faith, maybe I'd play.

I posted a page full of links to what various journalists risked their careers defining what they believed were Trumps biggest lies of 2017. I get it, maybe you think truth or verifiable facts are just ivory tower bullshit that those liberals in academia believe in. But in my world and fortunately the world of most halfway honest people, you don't get to totally lie about what's a lie, just becasue you're the New York Times. Or at least not without ruining your reputation with reality based folks.

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