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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:37pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:37pm
LeonDurham says
Obama had one of the weakest recoveries in US History, particularly outside of the Coastal Enclaves. By 2012 we still were behind millions of jobs, with pathetic growth rates, despite adding trillions to the Debt. Like I said, one or two quarters of 4 and 5% years after the trough of a recession is NOTHING to brag about, it's something to be concerned about.
Nobody, not even CNN - is making the case that Trump is doing a banging job on the economy.
Real Wages have stunk for most of the past few decades and won't be fixed in a day. It will be fixed by cutting off the nearly unlimited labor supply for big companies.
Are you kidding me? Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression. Trump was given a booming economy.
Obama had one of the weakest recoveries in US History, particularly outside of the Coastal Enclaves. By 2012 we still were behind millions of jobs, with pathetic growth rates, despite adding trillions to the Debt. Like I said, one or two quarters of 4 and 5% years after the trough of a recession is NOTHING to brag about, it's something to be concerned about.
Nobody, not even CNN - is making the case that Trump is doing a banging job on the economy.
Real Wages have stunk for most of the past few decades and won't be fixed in a day. It will be fixed by cutting off the nearly unlimited labor supply for big companies.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 5:37pm
curious2 says
See this is a good example of a strawman argument.
but Democrats demand spreading Islam and "can't wait" to see more of it in Congress.
See this is a good example of a strawman argument.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:38pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:38pm
LeonDurham says
Not at all. my whole life, Democrat Activists have whinged about religion in politics, Jesus/God in the Public Forum, Separation of Church and State etc. etc.
Now that there are two conservative Muslim candidates, the Democrats are dancing around about how wonderful it is to have religious people running for office.
See this is a good example of a strawman argument.
Not at all. my whole life, Democrat Activists have whinged about religion in politics, Jesus/God in the Public Forum, Separation of Church and State etc. etc.
Now that there are two conservative Muslim candidates, the Democrats are dancing around about how wonderful it is to have religious people running for office.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 5:39pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Uh, pat.netters sure make that case.
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Fix it? All he's done has made it worse.
Nobody, not even CNN - is making the case that Trump is doing a banging job on the economy.
Uh, pat.netters sure make that case.
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Real Wages have stunk for most of the past few decades and won't be fixed in a day. It will be fixed by cutting off the nearly unlimited labor supply for big companies.
Fix it? All he's done has made it worse.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 5:39pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
OK--please share any example of a Dem demanding that Islam be spread.
Not at all. my whole life, Democrat Activists have whinged about religion in politics, Jesus/God in the Public Forum, Separation of Church and State etc. etc.
Now that there are two conservative Muslim candidates, the Democrats are dancing around about how wonderful it is to have religious people running for office.
OK--please share any example of a Dem demanding that Islam be spread.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:40pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:40pm
LeonDurham says
Look at your own chart and explain 2013 and 2014, those boom years of Obama. Way after the trough of a recession, when wages should be booming.
Fix it? All he's done has made it worse.
Look at your own chart and explain 2013 and 2014, those boom years of Obama. Way after the trough of a recession, when wages should be booming.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:40pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:40pm
LeonDurham says
Not what I said. I said that before, they "worried" about religion in politics. Now, they are celebrating that conservative Muslims are running for office as Dems.
Even if they married for visas.
OK--please share any example of a Dem demanding that Islam be spread.
Not what I said. I said that before, they "worried" about religion in politics. Now, they are celebrating that conservative Muslims are running for office as Dems.
Even if they married for visas.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 5:41pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Why? You're the one saying the economy sucked under Obama and it's much better now. Please show me how real wages going down and negative is better?
Look at your own chart and explain 2013 and 2014, those boom years of Obama. Way after the trough of a recession, when wages should be booming.
Why? You're the one saying the economy sucked under Obama and it's much better now. Please show me how real wages going down and negative is better?
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 5:42pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Yes it is. I claimed the quote was a strawman and you said, "not at all".
So please show me how it's not a strawman.
Not what I said. I said that before, they "worried" about religion in politics. Now, they are celebrating that conservative Muslims are running for office as Dems.
Even if they married for visas.
Yes it is. I claimed the quote was a strawman and you said, "not at all".
So please show me how it's not a strawman.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:45pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:45pm
Too Much Religion! Stop asking candidates about their (Christian) Religion! Too much influence by (Christian) religion!
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/21/more-americans-say-too-much-religion-in-politics/
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/359571-dem-lawmaker-theres-too-much-religion-in-politics
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6906693.stm
http://prospect.org/article/god-republican-why-politics-dangerous-religion-0
But when it's Islam, it's GOOD!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-muslim-elected-to-congress/
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/136605/nomination-muslim-federal-judge-obama-cements-reputation-president-firsts
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/politics/primary-results-minnesota-wisconsin.html
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018-elections/2018/06/23/america-grew-muslim-democrats-find-welcoming-home-state-convention
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/21/more-americans-say-too-much-religion-in-politics/
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/359571-dem-lawmaker-theres-too-much-religion-in-politics
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6906693.stm
http://prospect.org/article/god-republican-why-politics-dangerous-religion-0
But when it's Islam, it's GOOD!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-muslim-elected-to-congress/
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/136605/nomination-muslim-federal-judge-obama-cements-reputation-president-firsts
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/14/us/politics/primary-results-minnesota-wisconsin.html
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018-elections/2018/06/23/america-grew-muslim-democrats-find-welcoming-home-state-convention
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 5:47pm
Do you think that is the same as saying "Dems demanding Islam be spread"?
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curious2
2018 Aug 18, 5:51pm
curious2
2018 Aug 18, 5:51pm
LeonDurham says
1) It was a direct quote, which I have since turned into a link.
2) You can find more examples of the same elsewhere, e.g.
"Tlaib also supported Omar's run, sending a dozen of her campaign workers to Minnesota to canvas for Omar the weekend before the election.
"I can't wait to walk onto the floor of United States Congress hand in hand with you. So incredibly proud of you," Tlaib said of Omar on Twitter.
***
Omar and Tlaib have vehemently opposed the president's ban on travelers from several Muslim-majority countries, and in 2016 Tlaib famously heckled Trump during his speech in Detroit.
"When you see a Palestinian person with your name and faith succeed, it shows [the government] can ban us from coming into the country, but not from getting elected," Tlaib told ABC News last week.
***
In her heavily Democratic district, less than 5 percent of the population identifies as Arab-American.
***
"I will fight back against every racist and oppressive structure that needs to be dismantled," Tlaib declared in her victory speech in a room largely filled with Arab-Americans."
OK, good luck with that, congratulations on the primary, but it doesn't portend a blue wave. BTW, I bolded the "can't wait" quotation for you; you can thank me later.
So please show me how it's not a strawman.
1) It was a direct quote, which I have since turned into a link.
2) You can find more examples of the same elsewhere, e.g.
"Tlaib also supported Omar's run, sending a dozen of her campaign workers to Minnesota to canvas for Omar the weekend before the election.
"I can't wait to walk onto the floor of United States Congress hand in hand with you. So incredibly proud of you," Tlaib said of Omar on Twitter.
***
Omar and Tlaib have vehemently opposed the president's ban on travelers from several Muslim-majority countries, and in 2016 Tlaib famously heckled Trump during his speech in Detroit.
"When you see a Palestinian person with your name and faith succeed, it shows [the government] can ban us from coming into the country, but not from getting elected," Tlaib told ABC News last week.
***
In her heavily Democratic district, less than 5 percent of the population identifies as Arab-American.
***
"I will fight back against every racist and oppressive structure that needs to be dismantled," Tlaib declared in her victory speech in a room largely filled with Arab-Americans."
OK, good luck with that, congratulations on the primary, but it doesn't portend a blue wave. BTW, I bolded the "can't wait" quotation for you; you can thank me later.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 5:56pm
I'm looking for something saying "Dems demanding Islam be spread"
Nothing in the above says anything remotely like that.
Nothing in the above says anything remotely like that.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:56pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 5:56pm
LeonDurham says
I see it as a double standard: Christian Belief undesirable; Muslim Belief desirable.
Labour is doing the same in the UK by the way.
I see the new PM of Pakistan lost his opportunity to condemn Theofascist Blasphemy laws, however.
Do you think that is the same as saying "Dems demanding Islam be spread"?
I see it as a double standard: Christian Belief undesirable; Muslim Belief desirable.
Labour is doing the same in the UK by the way.
I see the new PM of Pakistan lost his opportunity to condemn Theofascist Blasphemy laws, however.
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curious2
2018 Aug 18, 5:56pm
curious2
2018 Aug 18, 5:56pm
LeonDurham says
Hillary campaigned on importing (at American expense) at least 65k "Syrian" migrants in her first year, more to follow, 97% Sunni because the Syrian Christians and Shia were sheltering with Assad in order to avoid getting exterminated by the Sunni militias that Hillary was arming (also at American expense). Merkel imported 10x more Sunnis into other NATO countries. PatNet has a whole thread on Islamic Hijrah (totally different from the Hindu word hijra), including a map showing the "charity" IRAP serving Muslim-majority client countries by spreading Islam into NATO. Current Democrats campaign against the President's travel ban and demand to import more "refugee" Sunnis. So yes, Democrats were and are campaigning on spreading Islam.
Do you think that is the same as saying "Dems demanding Islam be spread"?
Hillary campaigned on importing (at American expense) at least 65k "Syrian" migrants in her first year, more to follow, 97% Sunni because the Syrian Christians and Shia were sheltering with Assad in order to avoid getting exterminated by the Sunni militias that Hillary was arming (also at American expense). Merkel imported 10x more Sunnis into other NATO countries. PatNet has a whole thread on Islamic Hijrah (totally different from the Hindu word hijra), including a map showing the "charity" IRAP serving Muslim-majority client countries by spreading Islam into NATO. Current Democrats campaign against the President's travel ban and demand to import more "refugee" Sunnis. So yes, Democrats were and are campaigning on spreading Islam.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 5:59pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Only because you misinterpret it. Muslims are often discriminated against because of their religion. Dems are party of Bill of Rights and they believe in freedom of religion, so they applaud the underdog being elected.
I see it as a double standard: Christian Belief undesirable; Muslim Belief desirable.
Only because you misinterpret it. Muslims are often discriminated against because of their religion. Dems are party of Bill of Rights and they believe in freedom of religion, so they applaud the underdog being elected.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:00pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:00pm
Speaking of replacing Americans at work, I notice that Obama had settled lots of Sunni "Refugees" in Twin Falls, Idaho. His big donor Chobani has a big Yogurt plant there.
Should help keep wages low for Obama's friends.
Should help keep wages low for Obama's friends.
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curious2
2018 Aug 18, 6:01pm
curious2
2018 Aug 18, 6:01pm
LeonDurham says
No, you're not looking. If you were looking, you would easily find examples. It's like in the Abhulimen thread, where you didn't even look at the linked video that showed a blank white key card, and instead you insisted based on your own alleged experience that key cards are not blank. Instead of looking at facts, you are trolling, demanding that other people do the looking for you, as if we were your retrievers. I have other things to do today, so I am done playing your silly little game. People will vote in November, and if your antics are the best that Democrats can do, I don't see a blue wave coming.
I'm looking for something....
No, you're not looking. If you were looking, you would easily find examples. It's like in the Abhulimen thread, where you didn't even look at the linked video that showed a blank white key card, and instead you insisted based on your own alleged experience that key cards are not blank. Instead of looking at facts, you are trolling, demanding that other people do the looking for you, as if we were your retrievers. I have other things to do today, so I am done playing your silly little game. People will vote in November, and if your antics are the best that Democrats can do, I don't see a blue wave coming.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 6:04pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Do you really want to get into a discussion of scandals? Because the Trump Administration is the most fraudulent, self serving, bunch of money grabbers that the White House has ever seen.
Speaking of replacing Americans at work, I notice that Obama had settled lots of Sunni "Refugees" in Twin Falls, Idaho. His big donor Chobani has a big Yogurt plant there.
Should help keep wages low for Obama's friends.
Do you really want to get into a discussion of scandals? Because the Trump Administration is the most fraudulent, self serving, bunch of money grabbers that the White House has ever seen.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:18pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:18pm
Nope, best President ever. Not "managing a decline" like Obama or making the world safe for Globalists like Clinton-Bush.
Love how being tough on trade ended up with big concessions from Europe. Another thing the ever-wrong pundits were wrong about.
Just wait until the FISA scandal is finalized. Strzok is involved in everything from the shitty Iran Deal to entrapping Flynn to rigging the Election.
Love how being tough on trade ended up with big concessions from Europe. Another thing the ever-wrong pundits were wrong about.
Just wait until the FISA scandal is finalized. Strzok is involved in everything from the shitty Iran Deal to entrapping Flynn to rigging the Election.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:43pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:43pm
Tim Aurora says
Trump is about as far from impeachment as you can imagine. Mueller's millions and months upon months have turned up bupkiss "collusion".
You Russian can keep om telling that. Traitor Trump is very near to impeachment
Trump is about as far from impeachment as you can imagine. Mueller's millions and months upon months have turned up bupkiss "collusion".
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Shaman
2018 Aug 18, 6:44pm
Shaman
2018 Aug 18, 6:44pm
LeonDurham says
Let me correct that for you. Democrats are the party of cultural Marxism, which preaches that equality of OUTCOME is the greatest virtue, and anytime there is inequality then a crime has been committed by the strong against the weak.
With me so far?
Now whichever groups are historically the weakest or least successful are then deemed to be on the receiving side of racism, sexism and bigotry which MUST be the reason for their failure as a culture! Islam fits nicely into the “failure” paradigm, so by Leftist thinking: Muslims must be oppressed! Therefore any success of theirs is to be celebrated and any criticism of Islam or Muslim behavior is RACIST and just more of the strong oppressing the weak!
Still with me?
Dems are party of Bill of Rights and they believe in freedom of religion, so they applaud the underdog being elected.
Let me correct that for you. Democrats are the party of cultural Marxism, which preaches that equality of OUTCOME is the greatest virtue, and anytime there is inequality then a crime has been committed by the strong against the weak.
With me so far?
Now whichever groups are historically the weakest or least successful are then deemed to be on the receiving side of racism, sexism and bigotry which MUST be the reason for their failure as a culture! Islam fits nicely into the “failure” paradigm, so by Leftist thinking: Muslims must be oppressed! Therefore any success of theirs is to be celebrated and any criticism of Islam or Muslim behavior is RACIST and just more of the strong oppressing the weak!
Still with me?
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 6:44pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Tariffs are the one thing Trump got right, although the implementation left (and continues to leave) a lot to be desired. Liberals have been calling for them for a long time. It's Republicans and their "thinktanks" (Heritage, COC, et. al)that have fought against them for decades.
But, please detail these "big concessions" from Europe. What products? How much? When was the deal signed?
Love how being tough on trade ended up with big concessions from Europe. Another thing the ever-wrong pundits were wrong about.
Tariffs are the one thing Trump got right, although the implementation left (and continues to leave) a lot to be desired. Liberals have been calling for them for a long time. It's Republicans and their "thinktanks" (Heritage, COC, et. al)that have fought against them for decades.
But, please detail these "big concessions" from Europe. What products? How much? When was the deal signed?
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 6:45pm
Quigley says
No, because that's BS. Dems want equal opportunities, not equal outcomes.
Let me correct that for you. Democrats are the party of cultural Marxism, which preaches that equality of OUTCOME is the greatest virtue, and anytime there is inequality then a crime has been committed by the strong against the weak.
With me so far?
No, because that's BS. Dems want equal opportunities, not equal outcomes.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 6:46pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
And you know this how exactly? Does Mueller confide in you? Or are you on the investigative team?
Mueller's millions and months upon months have turned up bupkiss "collusion".
And you know this how exactly? Does Mueller confide in you? Or are you on the investigative team?
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Shaman
2018 Aug 18, 6:49pm
Shaman
2018 Aug 18, 6:49pm
LeonDurham says
Uh, have you paid ANY attention to the news these past ten years? Socialism and equality of outcome are all the rage in Leftist circles. Racism is always to blame if outcomes are different. In fact, if I cared to dig up a few dozen of your OWN posts delineating this....
The Democrats are very against the bill of Rights and the first Ammendment in particular. We’ve seen unbridled censorship, restrictions against speech, assembly, and religious expression if the speech, assembly, or religion is NOT Leftist approved!
Your statement is exactly wrong. Perfectly diametrical from reality. It’s so false that it’s not even pants on fire, it’s GALACTICALLY WRONG!
No, because that's BS. Dems want equal opportunities, not equal outcomes.
Uh, have you paid ANY attention to the news these past ten years? Socialism and equality of outcome are all the rage in Leftist circles. Racism is always to blame if outcomes are different. In fact, if I cared to dig up a few dozen of your OWN posts delineating this....
The Democrats are very against the bill of Rights and the first Ammendment in particular. We’ve seen unbridled censorship, restrictions against speech, assembly, and religious expression if the speech, assembly, or religion is NOT Leftist approved!
Your statement is exactly wrong. Perfectly diametrical from reality. It’s so false that it’s not even pants on fire, it’s GALACTICALLY WRONG!
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curious2
2018 Aug 18, 6:50pm
curious2
2018 Aug 18, 6:50pm
Tim Aurora says
Please define "very near."
BTW, IRL, a friend expected him to be removed more than a year ago. It's like when people say the world will end in 2012 or whatever. It helps to get a specific date, because otherwise they keep saying "near...."
Trump is very near to impeachment
Please define "very near."
BTW, IRL, a friend expected him to be removed more than a year ago. It's like when people say the world will end in 2012 or whatever. It helps to get a specific date, because otherwise they keep saying "near...."
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Shaman
2018 Aug 18, 6:52pm
Shaman
2018 Aug 18, 6:52pm
curious2 says
Perhaps if they used more traditional language:
“The Impeachment is Nigh!”
Tim Aurora saysTrump is very near to impeachment
Please define "very near."
BTW, IRL, a friend expected him to be removed more than a year ago. It's like when people say the world will end in 2012 or whatever. It helps to get a specific date, because otherwise they keep saying "near...."
Perhaps if they used more traditional language:
“The Impeachment is Nigh!”
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 6:53pm
Quigley says
You keep saying such things, but all the evidence proves you wrong. Trump is the one who is opposed to freedom of the press. He is the one punishing his political opponents. He is the one against freedom of religion. I could go on and on.
Uh, have you paid ANY attention to the news these past ten years? Socialism and equality of outcome are all the rage in Leftist circles. Racism is always to blame if outcomes are different. In fact, if I cared to dig up a few dozen of your OWN posts delineating this....
The Democrats are very against the bill of Rights and the first Ammendment in particular. We’ve seen unbridled censorship, restrictions against speech, assembly, and religious expression if the speech, assembly, or religion is NOT Leftist approved!
Your statement is exactly wrong. Perfectly diametrical from reality. It’s so false that it’s not even pants on fire, it’s GALACTICALLY WRONG!
You keep saying such things, but all the evidence proves you wrong. Trump is the one who is opposed to freedom of the press. He is the one punishing his political opponents. He is the one against freedom of religion. I could go on and on.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:55pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:55pm
Quigley says
LeonDurham says
Ummmm....
It was said months ago that Trump isn't a target of a criminal investigation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/04/mueller-told-trump-hes-not-a-criminal-target-but-that-doesnt-mean-his-evidence-against-trump-is-weak/?noredirect=on
Love Democracy DIes in Our Deep State's attempt to put a spin on it, though. In fact the entire media was trying to spin this as Trump wasn't being "investigation". Uh yeah, it means Mueller isn't going after Trump himself.
Now whichever groups are historically the weakest or least successful are then deemed to be on the receiving side of racism,
LeonDurham says
And you know this how exactly? Does Mueller confide in you? Or are you on the investigative team?
Ummmm....
It was said months ago that Trump isn't a target of a criminal investigation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/04/mueller-told-trump-hes-not-a-criminal-target-but-that-doesnt-mean-his-evidence-against-trump-is-weak/?noredirect=on
Love Democracy DIes in Our Deep State's attempt to put a spin on it, though. In fact the entire media was trying to spin this as Trump wasn't being "investigation". Uh yeah, it means Mueller isn't going after Trump himself.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:57pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 6:57pm
LeonDurham says
You're confusing Freedom of the Press with being subject to Criticism.
It's very unnerving when the Press is making a full court press for and against something almost across the board, like Free Trade or the Iraq War or Voraciously Anti-Trump.
So far the only Press that has been silenced is Alternative Media via Big Tech with Legacy Media cheering it on.
Trump is the one who is opposed to freedom of the press.
You're confusing Freedom of the Press with being subject to Criticism.
It's very unnerving when the Press is making a full court press for and against something almost across the board, like Free Trade or the Iraq War or Voraciously Anti-Trump.
So far the only Press that has been silenced is Alternative Media via Big Tech with Legacy Media cheering it on.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 6:59pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
lol--funny how when the press says what you want it to say, you believe it. But when it says something different, it's fake news.
The hypocrisy of the Trump cult is nothing short of ridiculous.
Regardless, if you read the article, it doesn't really say what you what it to say.
Ummmm....
It was said months ago that Trump isn't a target of a criminal investigation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/04/mueller-told-trump-hes-not-a-criminal-target-but-that-doesnt-mean-his-evidence-against-trump-is-weak/?noredirect=on
Love Democracy DIes in Our Deep State's attempt to put a spin on it, though.
lol--funny how when the press says what you want it to say, you believe it. But when it says something different, it's fake news.
The hypocrisy of the Trump cult is nothing short of ridiculous.
Regardless, if you read the article, it doesn't really say what you what it to say.
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Patrick
2018 Aug 18, 7:06pm
Patrick
2018 Aug 18, 7:06pm
LeonDurham says
Lol, how about some facts though?
What evidence do you have for your assertions? I don't see any evidence at all that Trump is opposed to freedom of the press or freedom of religion.
Trump is the one who is opposed to freedom of the press. He is the one punishing his political opponents. He is the one against freedom of religion. I could go on and on.
Lol, how about some facts though?
What evidence do you have for your assertions? I don't see any evidence at all that Trump is opposed to freedom of the press or freedom of religion.
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Patrick
2018 Aug 18, 7:08pm
Patrick
2018 Aug 18, 7:08pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Yes, now that's what I'm talking about! Actual facts.
Google and Facebook etc have truly literally censored the press, small press, but definitely clear undeniable censorship.
Trump has done no such thing. He calls them out on their ridiculously partisan coverage, but that's all.
So far the only Press that has been silenced is Alternative Media via Big Tech with Legacy Media cheering it on.
Yes, now that's what I'm talking about! Actual facts.
Google and Facebook etc have truly literally censored the press, small press, but definitely clear undeniable censorship.
Trump has done no such thing. He calls them out on their ridiculously partisan coverage, but that's all.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 7:13pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 7:13pm
LeonDurham says
I told you why - years after the trough of the recession, and no real wage growth? Finally, at the very tail end of the Obama presidency, perhaps keeping pace with inflation but nowhere near caught up.
Why? You're the one saying the economy sucked under Obama and it's much better now. Please show me how real wages going down and negative is better?
I told you why - years after the trough of the recession, and no real wage growth? Finally, at the very tail end of the Obama presidency, perhaps keeping pace with inflation but nowhere near caught up.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 7:15pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 7:15pm
LeonDurham says
Obama almost doubled the debt, which is the result of deficit spending. $1.3T in his first budget, and over a Trillion until nearing the end of his office.
Saying the deficit and debt are not related is a falsehood. Deficits add to the debt, and by the end of his Presidency, Obama almost Doubled the entire National Debt. That couldn't have happened without running big deficits.
Read the quote again. Deficit and Debt are NOT the same thing.
Obama reduced the deficit. Trump is ballooning it out of control.
Obama almost doubled the debt, which is the result of deficit spending. $1.3T in his first budget, and over a Trillion until nearing the end of his office.
Saying the deficit and debt are not related is a falsehood. Deficits add to the debt, and by the end of his Presidency, Obama almost Doubled the entire National Debt. That couldn't have happened without running big deficits.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 7:16pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2018 Aug 18, 7:16pm
LeonDurham says
The spin is, it was reported Trump is not the subject of an investigation, but the Media tried to imagine scenarios or loopholes where that would not longer be true, instead of just reporting the news.
"Accountability Journalism" = Spin.
lol--funny how when the press says what you want it to say, you believe it. But when it says something different, it's fake news.
The spin is, it was reported Trump is not the subject of an investigation, but the Media tried to imagine scenarios or loopholes where that would not longer be true, instead of just reporting the news.
"Accountability Journalism" = Spin.
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lostand confused
2018 Aug 18, 7:18pm
lostand confused
2018 Aug 18, 7:18pm
LOL freedom of the press-press say anything they want to-I can't say anything back. That is not how it works-except with Bush.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 8:19pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Of course they're related. But they're not interchangeable. You said Obama increased the deficit which is factually incorrect.
Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression so of course the debt increased. But, as the economy improved, he was able to significantly reduce the deficit like a good President should. Compare that to Bush or Trump who had a great economy and still greatly increased the deficit.
Obama almost doubled the debt, which is the result of deficit spending. $1.3T in his first budget, and over a Trillion until nearing the end of his office.
Saying the deficit and debt are not related is a falsehood. Deficits add to the debt, and by the end of his Presidency, Obama almost Doubled the entire National Debt. That couldn't have happened without running big deficits.
Of course they're related. But they're not interchangeable. You said Obama increased the deficit which is factually incorrect.
Obama inherited the worst economy since the Great Depression so of course the debt increased. But, as the economy improved, he was able to significantly reduce the deficit like a good President should. Compare that to Bush or Trump who had a great economy and still greatly increased the deficit.
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LeonDurham
2018 Aug 18, 8:19pm
TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
So, Trump causing real wage growth to go negative is somehow Obama's fault? Please tell me more.
I told you why - years after the trough of the recession, and no real wage growth? Finally, at the very tail end of the Obama presidency, perhaps keeping pace with inflation but nowhere near caught up.
So, Trump causing real wage growth to go negative is somehow Obama's fault? Please tell me more.
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Yesterday former Bill Clinton advisor Dick Morris told radio host on New York's AM 970 that he believes the "blue wave" that Democrats are expecting to give them back the Senate and House will not materialize, and polling has backed him up.
Last week, CNN's mid term poll showed that Democrats only had a 3 point advantage, well within the margin of error, and considering that CNN is known for "oversampling" Democrats in its own polls, this is troubling for the DNC.
Additionally, a recent poll from Reuters (left leaning) has shown that Millennials are leaving the Democrat party in droves. Democrat membership in the 18-34 demographic (the bread and butter of the DNC) dropped 9% over the past 2 years, most of them becoming "independents".
"I think that [Democrats] see fool’s gold in these scandals," Morris said. "They’re putting everything behind the Stormy Daniels scandal and Michael Cohen … and the country doesn’t give a damn."
That's when Morris dropped his prediction.
"There is no blue wave coming," Morris exclaimed. "There is a red wave. And what makes it red is the blood of the Democratic Party."
Here's my official take. I believe the GOP will LOSE seats in the house but will not give it up to the DNC. I believe the GOP will GAIN seats in the senate, keeping their majority. This will mean that Trump will have both houses of congress for his entire term.