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doik says

I also miss Vincent, emmae, and turtle dove

Haven’t seen Vicente around. Ellie Mae hasn’t been about either unfortunately. I think she got attacked by some haters. Turtledove was the saddest departure, as she died IRL. I’d had correspondence with her via email for a couple years before her accident, and she was a truly nice person.

doik says

Iwog and Dan insulted some users, but only after those users were far more abusive

Are we talking about the same forum?

Iwog went batshit crazy on people - including myself - starting a few days after the election. I seldom insulted him, and only when he got nasty like he could sometimes.

The "But the Captain!" was just an excuse, it was the Insults they liked.

Heraclitusstudent says

Meme bombing "debate": for people with attention spans just long enough to read a meme. Some of them are funny though.

The Left can't Meme.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Heraclitusstudent says

Meme bombing "debate": for people with attention spans just long enough to read a meme. Some of them are funny though.

The Left can't Meme.

Oh yes they can. But unfortunately the left in real life are walking talking memes!!!

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TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

doik says

patrick.net has lost a lot of users over the past five years. You don't see any of the moderates here anymore.

A lot of that is because the country is splitting.

I'm a moderate. I could have voted for Bernie - but thought Trump had the P&V to not only win but to get shit done. My guess has turned out right.

My #1 issues were anti-"Free" Trade Extremist, followed by controlling Unfettered Immigration (esp. unvetted Middle Easterners and Rapefugees), and anti-SJW. I've gotten much of what I wanted.

Hillary and Bernie both would have accommodated the SJWs and extreme mass immigration forces, Bernie might have done something with Trade (but a GOPe-Dem Neoliberal coalition in Congress would have stopped him), but Hillary certainly wouldn't have had.

The contention that Hillary who spent years campaigning for TPP as the Gold Standard and talking it up a...

Yep. Well said. Many moderates moved to Trump and caused his victory. Some just cared about a few topics if not one topic. Such as illegal immigration. Or anti straight white or anti male discrimination. Or lower taxes. Or better foreign policy. Trump had the answer and delivered on all. That made the feelz not facts based peole mad and split the nation. Simple.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

The Left can't Meme.

You're right. They are trying to be nuanced and show up their knowledge.
Propaganda doesn't work that way :-)

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Iwog went batshit crazy on people - including myself - starting a few days after the election. I

Iwog was very aggressive in his debating style, but not threatening, or otherwise crossing lines. I think the level of incivility was not unexpected for an Internet free speech forum. There were trolls like 'piggy' who were 10 times more annoying.
Iwog was also informed and sharp. His opinion was worth reading most of the time. So a loss for the forum overall.

Heraclitusstudent says

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

The Left can't Meme.

You're right. They are trying to be nuanced and show up their knowledge.
Propaganda doesn't work that way :-)

They are the least nuanced but unfortunately also not funny. Racist.exe is the least nuanced program of all, even less nuanced than the westboro baptists.

This was at bully boy pulpit before Trump.

Since Trump came along the bullies live vicariously through Trump claiming victory through his every offense.

That’s the one area that Trump will never disappoint, offensiveness.

Heraclitusstudent says

Iwog was very aggressive in his debating style, but not threatening, or otherwise crossing lines.

Ha. Not even close.

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Too many people are used to a quick smile at memes they agree with and can't handle a frank discussion that force them to think, and occasionally revise their opinions.
Iwog left many feeling butt hurt after scuffles.
That caused a lot of resentment.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

The Left can't Meme.

Because they are afraid of offending anyone except Fucking White Males.

Call It Crazy says

That’s true.

You’re neglecting all the substance he would dig out an offer along with his arguments which would leave his opponent having to refute references instead of blather and snarky quip.

Doesn’t give you that nice feeling of winning all the time, but substance is golden especially in a forum, unless that forum might be the place were bully boys pound their chests.

Iwog is always welcome back to bring "substance" to his arguments, just without the personal insults he loved to sprinkle around.

Obviously Iwog himself felt he couldn't fit that standard, so he "left" (aka says he left but comes back occasionally with sock puppet accounts).

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Just look at the level of the comments in this thread alone. LOL

Trump DNA results re out: 97% Orangutan*


Ah... not even funny!
* though it's a fact.

Call It Crazy says

Well then I bow to your superior knowledge of behind the scenes patrick.net.

Not withstanding that I don’t see anything that parallels the level of effort and time that Iwog would put in before he left.

I say you’re grossly miss characterizing to the point of gaslighting the contributions that Iwog made to this forum, but hey, everybody’s entitled to an opinion.

Like I said, Iwog is always welcome back. No one chased him off. He simply disagreed with the moderating of his content to conform to @patrick's wishes.

That's his choice. It's a free country (for now).

Heraclitusstudent says

You're right. They are trying to be nuanced and show up their knowledge.
Propaganda doesn't work that way :-)

This is a wonderful meme:



It perfectly expresses the cognitive dissonance of the Leftist Position on Immigration.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

It perfectly expresses the cognitive dissonance of the Leftist Position on Immigration.

"Foreigners come in", and "You, STFU and let them". No dissonance there.