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Heraclitusstudent says

Africa was not a large population compared to Europe 100 yrs back.

Africans would have 10 babies, with just 2 of them surviving. Nature controlled the population. Modern medicine is what allowed the populations to explode.

If the Liberals would stop promoting and mass importing head chopping Butt Sniffers that would be great.

HEYYOU says

I don't live in France but may move there

Take Jazz with you.

Strategist says

Heraclitusstudent says

Africa was not a large population compared to Europe 100 yrs back.

Africans would have 10 babies, with just 2 of them surviving. Nature controlled the population. Modern medicine is what allowed the populations to explode.

Modern medicine and misguided western "aid" have enabled African populations to grow, and Islamic dysfunction drives emigration. Other factors increase migration, but Islam drives most of it.

When Africa sends disease, the west sends vaccines and cures in return. When the west sends "aid" $, Africans demand more $$$ as "climate justice." When the west sends volunteers and "aid" workers to try to help Africans build a livable civilization, Africa sends the west mostly Muslim migrants to destroy western civilization. The west has done well with (usually Christian) immigrants from South Africa, but the (usually Muslim) immigrants from central and north Africa tend to cause problems, e.g. Mohamed Atta, and the few (usually Christian) exceptions from those regions don't justify the terrible disasters.

From Heavy.com:

"Le Figaro reported that “the alleged perpetrator of the shooting is Chérif C.” who was born in 1989.
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Sanam Shantyaei, a host for France 24, reported that four people were killed, the suspect is a local resident who is 29-years-old, he escaped after he was supposed to be arrested earlier that morning, he was still on the run, and he was injured during crossfire.
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The local French newspaper DNA reported that the suspect was from Hohberg. France 24 reports the suspect was supposed to be arrested for attempted murder before the attack and “was sentenced in 2011 to two years in prison for assault with a weapon.”
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La Voce dell’Isola reported that the suspect is “called Cherif C., 29 years old born in Strasbourg and of North African descent.”"

Macron must be breathing better!
People shot in the street focus minds and remind people that gas prices are not everything in life.

Nw Macron has to make an appearance. He's been totally AWOL last few days.

And this is further proof that the French Authorities, are focused on passing carbon gas taxes, while letting known Jihadis roam free.

I see this as more straw on the camel's back.

Heraclitusstudent says

They are winning the Darwinian game as they are proving more fit to pass on their genes.

You can’t argue with results!
This is why Rin and his followers are LOSERS who will not matter to successive generations in the long run. They’re evolutionary dead ends, much sound and fury signifying nothing much. If you don’t have sons and daughters to continue your legacy, you’re nothing but a place holder for someone else.

Yes, it’s hard to have and raise kids. Everything worth anything is hard to do. Shirk this responsibility at your peril! It’s a lonely view from the top when nobody gives a shit when you lose your grip and finally fall.

Quigley says

This is why Rin and his followers are LOSERS who will not matter to successive generations in the long run. They’re evolutionary dead ends, much sound and fury signifying nothing much. If you don’t have sons and daughters to continue your legacy, you’re nothing but a place holder for someone else.

Until you can legitimately stop feminism in its tracks, then Rin & his so-called followers, not that I have any (as of now), are winners in the game of extortion in the Femi-Nazi capitals of the USA, Sweden, and other western states which hate men.

Remember, Ben Franklin disowned his own 'Tory' son, back in the revolutionary times. But yet, old Ben is remembered but not Willy "the Loser" Franklin.

As for savages, Islam isn't raising children, they're raising terrorists.

Classic. Imagine if this came out today.

You need to find a butt naked Zebra Bitch to impregnate.

www.youtube.com/embed/iP_7_P8S1KE

Rin says

Until you can legitimately stop feminism in its tracks, then Rin & his so-called followers, not that I have any (as of now)

I'm your follower, Rin, but Quigley has a valid point. I understand some people just don't want the hassles of raising kids, and would rather spend their money on enjoying their limited life on earth on themselves. I too want to enjoy my limited time on earth, but it's my children who give me the greatest satisfaction in life. I would have loved to have three kids instead of two. I love my family, my extended family, and our pets.
Bottom line.....It's a free and country, and we are all free to do what makes us happy, as long as we don't hurt others.

"5 held in Strasbourg Christmas market attack, gunman remains at large"

The Strasbourg Christmas market had been an Islamic target before:

"In December 2000, a plot by the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat to bomb the Strasbourg Christmas market, at the feet of the Strasbourg Cathedral on New Year's Eve was discovered. The plot was foiled by French and German police after a terrorist network based in Frankfurt, Germany, the "Frankfurt group", was unravelled. A total of fourteen people were convicted as part of the plot; four in Germany and ten in France, including the operational leader, Mohammed Bensakhria (a.k.a. "Meliani"), thought to be a European deputy to Osama bin Laden."

Islam is a relentless enemy. Even if you foil a particular plot, more will follow. As long as Islam continues to grow, more Muslims will arrive to destroy the target, and eventually western civilization. It took more than 8 years for Muslims to destroy the World Trade Center in New York, from the 1993 bombing to September 11, 2001, but they did it.

Strategist says

it's my children who give me the greatest satisfaction in life

So far, I've only heard the above from less than 50% of the ppl I know and many of them were from the older boomer generation, not the younger ones.

Some of the others are fairly dissatisfied as they can't pursue additional degrees, start new careers, etc.

And then there are those, whose kids are sick all the time, trouble makers, don't do their work, etc.

Sure, if one's kids turn out to be the next Benjamin Franklin or Alexander Hamilton then the optimists are correct, it's great to have children. On the other hand, if they're the next Jeffrey Dahmer or James "Whitey" Bulger then it's another story altogether. If anything, the Bulger clan of Boston is a huge disgrace because even after everything was out in open, they didn't disown their mobster child. They kind of remind me of Muslims, who hide their terrorist cells in their own communities.

Rin says

And then there are those, whose kids are sick all the time, trouble makers, don't do their work, etc.

No kid will be perfect. Their parents are certainly not perfect, you can't expect kids to be perfect. There comes a time when every parent will think the stork delivered that kid to the wrong address. There are times when you know kids are the best thing that ever happened to them. I am extremely proud of my two brats.

Rin says

So far, I've only heard the above from less than 50% of the ppl I know and many of them were from the older boomer generation, not the younger ones.

If that was true, 50% of the parents would not go for a second child. Anecdotal evidence of 50% that you present are people you hang out with who have similar views as you do.

Rin says

As for savages, Islam isn't raising children, they're raising terrorists.

Yes, they want their children to be like Mohammed, the terrorist founder of Islam, who robbed, raped, and murdered his way to power. This is historical fact.

Islam does not belong in the West at all. It is the very opposite of peaceful coexistence, democracy, freedom of speech, and, ironically, freedom of religion. Anyone who attempts to leave Islam will be killed.

Funny to hear the report of yet another Muslim terrorist on NPR. They just would not say "Islam", "Muslim", or even give the guy's name because it's obviously Muslim.

NPR is complicit in the future murders of innocent people by Muslims.

BTW, the Dutch have found DNA to be useful in finding a Turkish murderer:

https://nltimes.nl/2018/12/11/twenty-years-prison-1992-zaandam-murder

Patrick says

Yes, they want their children to be like Mohammed, the terrorist founder of Islam, who robbed, raped, and murdered his way to power. This is historical fact.

Mohammad is the "Perfect Muslim" why wouldn't Muslim parents want their children to be perfect?
To us, Mohammad was the perfect terrorist. We don't want people who want to be like him among us.

You know... we could modify the 1st Ammendment to exclude Islam from religious protections. If we had the right kind of political will. They banned booze for a few decades for heavens sake! Surely we can ban followers of a creed which intends to subjugate Americans if they can manage it?

Patrick says

Islam does not belong in the West at all.

As bad as both Nazism and Communism were, they at least existed within the western concepts that we could understand, the former justification of hatred based on race, the second justification of hatred based on class. No one in the west could understand a theocracy in which you were glorified by killing those who refused to knuckle under to your way of believing. No Nazi or Communist would commit suicide due to their beliefs, so Islam has been a far bloodier plague on humanity than either of those which were bloody enough in their own contexts.

Strategist says

Rin says

So far, I've only heard the above from less than 50% of the ppl I know and many of them were from the older boomer generation, not the younger ones.

If that was true, 50% of the parents would not go for a second child. Anecdotal evidence of 50% that you present are people you hang out with who have similar views as you do.

I don't know, my parents are miserable and they had two kids. I believe it's called doing what's expected, by the society of their times. A lot of ppl are like that, highly conditioned and susceptible to 'Stockholm Syndrome'.

Did you ever see the movie, 'The Graduate', with Anne Bancroft and Dustin Hoffman? That's what that was about. And I believe that director Nichols was onto something there, with the hidden misery of parents. I didn't write that screenplay using my friends as allegories.

As for birth rates, didn't it halve between the 1960s and today? I believe that a lot of ppl are quitting after 1 kid these days. The days of 2.x kids per household are over. And I believe in the past ten years, it's been trending down from even 1.8.

No Nazi or Communist would commit suicide due to their beliefs

No, but the Japanese did.

HeadSet says

No Nazi or Communist would commit suicide due to their beliefs

No, but the Japanese did.

Numerous communists did commit suicide attacks, e.g. in Cuba and Viet Nam. Hitler expected 'death before dishonor,' i.e. he expected senior officers to die fighting hopeless battles rather than surrender, and he killed himself in his bunker.

The biggest difference with Islam results from percentages and sheer scale. With a high birth rate, Islam produces many thousands of suicide terrorists, and replaces them with even more. Also, Islamic beliefs (e.g. guaranteed eternal paradise for the martyr, plus he can intercede for up to 70 relatives to get into paradise too) cause more cultural support for suicide terrorists, including majority support among Palestinian Muslims, and so a higher percentage of Muslims either sign up personally or enable or encourage their relatives.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Strassburg

*Strasbourg

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46535552

Strasbourg shooting: Gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as he attacked

Booger says

Strasbourg shooting: Gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as he attacked

That clearly shows we have no idea what his motive was. Also, Strasbourg does not have enough "gun-free zone" signs posted

HeadSet says

Numerous communists did commit suicide attacks

Alexander Matrosov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Matrosov

Booger says

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46535552

Strasbourg shooting: Gunman shouted 'Allahu Akbar' as he attacked

"The gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest") as he opened fire."

Literally a few hours ago, I heard France24 talking heads telling the audience that it was too soon to speculate about the motive, the gunman was on the terrorist watch list but not considered a serious terrorist threat, no known ties, blah blah blah.

d6rB says

HeadSet says

Numerous communists did commit suicide attacks

Alexander Matrosov
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Matrosov

If you are going to consider heroics in battle as "suicide attacks," then there are a few American examples where in Vietnam soldiers smothered grenades with their bodies.

This reeks of false flag. The timing is extremely convenient for taking focus off the French people who have been protesting for a month.
Also, if you're a terrorist, when is the best time to attack? When everything is quite and people are feeling safe, or when the whole fucking country is fighting? Let your enemy fight themselves, don't stop the ship from going down.

I'll say again, false flag!

Rin says

As for birth rates, didn't it halve between the 1960s and today? I believe that a lot of ppl are quitting after 1 kid these days. The days of 2.x kids per household are over. And I believe in the past ten years, it's been trending down from even 1.8.

It's better explained by three things:

1. Some have no kids.
2. Some wait to long and have to struggle to have one kid, then too old/infertile to have another.
3. Normal, Functional People, the robust and successful "Bourgeois Society" Rubes, still have 2-3 kids. That includes Gays adopting.
4. Immigrants receiving abundant welfare have tons of kids, which helps make babies unaffordable to native born Americans who pay the taxes and compete for affordable housing.

NuttBoxer says

if you're a terrorist, when is the best time to attack?

That depends on the motivation. For an Islamic terrorist, Christmas crowds are an ideal target. The same Christmas market had already been a target in 2000. The guy had reportedly grenades, and was likely part of a plan to stage a larger attack; then, the police raid might have caused him to accelerate his attack and then hide. There might have been a plan for the perpetrator(s) to go into hiding in order to prolong the terror throughout the Christmas shopping season, thus maximizing the damage to retailers and the economy. In general, distraction and weakness show vulnerability. Islam foments division, then exploits that division to strike, so the yellow vest protests present an ideal opportunity: crowds, division, security forces distracted by rioters, etc.

I do however respect your skepticism, because at this point we have only allegations about the perpetrator. They will take time to prove. Was he really the perpetrator, who else was involved, why was he out and about instead of incarcerated after so many prior convictions: all these questions require time to answer.

With Omar Mateen, we learned that the father had a relationship with the FBI (and I suspect CIA). That might explain why repeated FBI investigations including personal surveillance failed to identify him as a terrorist, even after co-workers had said specifically that he was a terrorist. We learned also that the soon to be merry widow knew about the plan, though the jury declared reasonable doubt as to whether she committed the specific crimes alleged: that raises another question, i.e. why didn't the FBI and DoJ investigate her more thoroughly?

It reminds me of the OJ trials for murder and wrongful death. The police might indeed have tampered with evidence, their chain of custody was definitely flawed, and the criminal prosecution failed to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Still, the civil jury found correctly that OJ had probably killed those two people.

Time will tell about the latest Strasbourg attack. I suspect the alleged gunman did probably perpetrate the attack, but that is not yet proved, and it leaves questions about who helped.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

It's better explained by three things:

1. Some have no kids.
2. Some wait to long and have to struggle to have one kid, then too old/infertile to have another.
3. Normal, Functional People, the robust and successful "Bourgeois Society" Rubes, still have 2-3 kids. That includes Gays adopting.
4. Immigrants receiving abundant welfare have tons of kids, which helps make babies unaffordable to native born Americans who pay the taxes and compete for affordable housing.

All true, however, for point number 4, I'd say that the increased Hispanic population has actually created a near bifurcated system where for the most part, the Anglos (which doesn't mean British WASPs, but non-Spanish speaking & non-Islamic Americans) produce far fewer babies than Latinos and thus, the fact that immigrant families have from 2 to 4 babies per household, makes up for those who have 1 or 0.

Rin says

1. Some have no kids.

That's me!

And eventually, as resources dwindle (automation plus outsourcing) and many Hispanics become 2nd generation, it'll trickle into the Spanish speaking population.

NPR made an announced this morning in their news summary that a 3rd person died. The person happened to be a Muslim. (see they're the victims too).

The guy was condemned 27 times in France, Germany, and Switzerland for small crimes: violence, thefts, etc...
He was in prison twice serving 2 years sentences.
They should have applied Sharia and cut his hands off. In America, he would probably still be in prison.
He was also on the file 'S' considered a terrorist risk.

Ok the guy's dead.
Merry Christmas Cherif.

Rin says

As for birth rates, didn't it halve between the 1960s and today? I believe that a lot of ppl are quitting after 1 kid these days. The days of 2.x kids per household are over. And I believe in the past ten years, it's been trending down from even 1.8.

At some point in the future underpopulation will be the problem for the whole planet.

HeadSet says

No, but the Japanese did.

The Japanese Kamikaze targeted American Armed Forces. The Islamic coward suicide bombers target babies.

curious2 says

Literally a few hours ago, I heard France24 talking heads telling the audience that it was too soon to speculate about the motive

The motive could be anything. Maybe he was holding up a 7-11 to feed his hungry kids.