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2018 Feb 27, 7:51pm   9,305 views  49 comments

by MisdemeanorRebel   ➕follow (13)   💰tip   ignore  

You can say what you will, but demographic data speaks for itself. Conservatism is likely genetic.

Ever since the introduction of mass birth control, and feminism, the liberal birthrate has tanked and is now far below replacement (reducing their population 30%-50% every generation, where as the conservative birthrate is stable, or in a surplus. When you compare liberal vs conservative states, you already see a difference in fertility rates. Given that most conservative states have liberals, and most liberal states have conservatives, one can assume that the divergence when isolating to genetic political bias is even greater.

When you compare traditionally liberal vs conservative groups of people, such as the religious vs the atheists, you see that atheists have sub-replacement fertility rates (thus slowly being eliminated), while the conservatives are a growing population across the board. Religiously unaffiliated sitting around 1.6 births per woman (2.1 as replacement). Christians at 2.6, Muslims at 2.9.

When solely isolating to Jews, and looking at the differences in behavior between Conservative vs Liberal Jews, you see the conservative ones are more likely to be married young, while the conservative orthodox Jews have a fertility rate of 4.1, and irreligious Jews have a fertility rate of 1.5, making them sub-replacement, evolutionary dead-ends.

When looking at the Mormons, we see that they are more likely to be married at a younger age, and have a fertility rate of 3.4, far higher than your average Christian.

Reality doesn't care about your ideology - whether you believe in Marxism, Feminism, Christianity, Islam, or the tenets of the Red Pill. All it cares about is results, and a declining fertility is a sign of a weak group of people with a dark future. If your ideology leads you a sub-replacement fertility rate, how can you argue your ideology is successful. It's successful at weeding out your degenerate genetics from humanity, because you can't critically identify which ideologies benefit your self-interests, and which don't.

What do you think the fertility rate is of these childless idiots I read comments from on this sub, that get vasectomy's and never marry. You'll be gone, and conservative, people with children will replace you. The future looks more like us, and less like you.

Every generation from now, moving forward, will be increasingly conservative. There are likely less liberal genetics in existence in the younger cohort of Americans in 2017, than there were in the young cohort of the 70's, as those childless, feminist, liberal women hit their 40's and see the end of their fertility window... And the liberal men that chose to tie their fate to them are childless alongside them. 25% of German women in their 40's are childless. 20% of American women born between 1962 and 1966 are childless. This childlessness most certainly disproportionately affects liberal parents who are promoting feminism, liberalism, and other degenerate anti-patriarchal ideologies to their children. We're experiencing one of the greatest evolutionary events in modern history, on par with WW2. We're seeing the weak, liberal genetics being completely obliterated from the gene pool, with only patriarchal conservatives being spared. In 3 generations time, you'll basically have everyone selfishly looking out for themselves, with strong in-group preferences. We'll have Conservative Europeans, competing with other Conservative ethnic groups, and an ever-decreasing minority of old, liberals in their 70's and 80's dying alone, with no children to give a fuck about them, in depressing facilities where the state will put sick, soon-to-be-dead, childless, old folks. Feminism has absolutely destroying Liberalism. It's fucking glorious, and worth eating popcorn while cheering from the sideline. The only thing conservatives need to do is prepare for the fall out from the liberals dying off, and inheriting their broken systems. We'll need to form new countries in a few generations time, and restructure society. It's just a matter of a time and a few generations at this point.

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27   Bd6r   2018 Feb 28, 11:19am  

mell says
They are, Gen-Z is very conservative

Looked it up, and yes - they are more conservative than their predecessors, which I find really interesting. Perhaps it is backlash against left-wing parents (kind of like youth of 60's rebellion against conservative ideas). Or, perhaps, they see that life will be very difficult for them and they are screwed over by previous generations - so ideas of previous generations are not right for them.
I teach/research at university, and I see that Gen-Z are often reluctant to express their political views, unless they are at either right or left extreme. Expression of political views will hurt job prospects, so they are careful. Many of them are also aware that they are hosed with nearly everything - tuition, housing, medical care, possibilities for well-paying, stable jobs etc.
28   Bd6r   2018 Feb 28, 11:35am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
People are reporting enclaves a Burka Jihadis in Rosecommon and Balinrobe. Not just Dublin or Cork, but little towns in Central and Western Ireland you'd never expect them. All in the past few years.

I thought they mostly have E. European immigration, where danger is from inebriated drivers and/or drunk fistfights, which might be not that much different from native Irish behavior.
29   Heraclitusstudent   2018 Feb 28, 11:37am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Ireland (like Poland and Argentina) has a very low birthrate despite the Catholicism. It's a Europe-wide phenomenon.


I hear Poland recently started throwing tons of benefits and money to women just to have kids.
Let's see what happens.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/poland-low-birth-rate-health-ministry-youtube-advert-rabbits-sex-population-a8045076.html
30   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Feb 28, 12:52pm  

drB6 says
I thought they mostly have E. European immigration, where danger is from inebriated drivers and/or drunk fistfights, which might be not that much different from native Irish behavior.


That would have been my guess also, but some Irish in America go back periodically and they're shocked by the number of Dirka Dirka Full Burkas now appearing in small Irish country towns and fishing villages. Sinn Fein wanted to put 100 African Muslim migrants in a town of 300 that hosts a traditional Irish Fair, and the residents were up in arms saying they've been complaining about infrastructure with the current population, never mind 100 immigrants dumped on them overnight.

Heraclitusstudent says
I hear Poland recently started throwing tons of benefits and money to women just to have kids.


Frankly, I'm not a fan of an increasing birthrate as you probably know. Really, just shut the borders and let the housing costs drop and wages rise, which is exactly what "liberals" in the real sense, of Fine Gael or Merkel's CDU primarily run for the benefit of major landlords and business interests, do not want. Higher Rents! Lower Wages! A lot of loans and investors from the financial crisis still to be paid off.
31   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Feb 28, 12:58pm  

If we want to increase the birthrate, governments should start matchmaking kids in HS and College and offering housing for newlywed couples. Something that young people, esp. in Europe, can't generally afford unless their parents are really well off enough to pay it for them.

Bjork got impregnated by her bandmate to help him get glasses and share a house, Iceland paid for those things for couples with newborns.
32   Shaman   2018 Feb 28, 1:20pm  

Automan Empire says
Funny, most demographers and sociologists find this a sign of prosperity ,education, and upward mobility.


Well there you have it! Those are exactly the type of people who are heavily liberal and thus being weeded out! Of course they think they’re doing the right thing. But evolution (in which they claim to believe) doesn’t care what they think. It only cares about the people who spread their genes down the line of history. The rest of them are doomed to be forgotten and worse, irrelevant to that particular dance.

I don’t agree completely with the article because liberalism isn’t solely genetic. Or at least it doesn’t follow that conservatives will breed true, producing more conservatives. However, there is some magic ratio, probably defined by genetic drift, which can predict the rate at which liberalism is fading.

What I think is most hilarious is their insistence that making America less white will bring about the liberal utopia. Just because the blacks can be counted on for liberal votes doesn’t mean that holds true for other races.
As conservative politics embraces more people of various ancestries, the tribal politics followed by humanity’s native tribals won’t hold sway, and we will see a resurgence of conservatives.
33   Reality   2018 Feb 28, 2:04pm  

Not all children are alike. Some are born with the genes for being more beautiful/handsome; some are born with the genes for faster reflexes; some are born with genes for bigger muscles and athleticism; some are born with genes for higher intelligence. Most are born with mediocrity, some are born retarded (or at least by modern western standard of IQ=100 on average, making IQ<80 retarded).

Think of everything we have touched/used today since getting up in the morning. Aside from air (which is free), there is hardly anything we use/consume that is not the fruit of someone else' labor or ingenuity. "Natural resource" doesn't exist because "Nature" doesn't yield much resource until human labor and ingenuity is mixed with it. Even the quintessential resource -- Petroleum -- was little more than a pollutant that ruined farm land in Pennsylvania when it oozed out of the ground before people figured out how to distill Kerosene from it; Kerosene saved Whales from extinction (being hunted for producing lamp oil); yet Kerosene producers poured away Gasoline because the lighter fluid was too dangerous for lighting purpose; it took the invention of Otto-cycle internal combustion engine to make Gasoline into a "resource" instead of a dangerous nuisance. The perpetual problem human society faces is not "over-population" or "resource exhaustion" but too many dumb people who are not productive enough to meet the expectations that the society/media has instilled in them. An IQ=85 person can do quite well in Africa farming among other IQ=80 people, but transplanting that person to an average IQ=100 society is going to result in unemployment and tendency to crime and reliance on welfare (which is just robbery via government) . . . simply because his expectations on living standards are higher than his productivity can deliver. The robbery would have to take place to fulfill his expectations (whether by himself or via government) is going to reduce overall resources available to the society even further, as robbery is always a negative-sum game.

Immigration from low-IQ parts of the world can not solve the demographic problem in the West resulting from Feminism and other -isms that make reproduction too costly. Government subsidy for child births would only work more effectively on lower-income parents while the expense of such a problem would have to be paid by higher-income taxpayers . . . resulting in higher birth rate among lower-IQ population at the expense of higher-IQ population. Not all children are alike, and their statistically likely level of contribution to society will also be dissimilar.

IMHO, what will work well is a proportional tax-cut incentive for people to have more children: e.g. for every child under the age of 18 (or 23, whatever the latest definition of "child" is), a mother and a father each can deduct 10% of their entire income tax bill after DNA verification of paternity/maternity. Such a tax-cut would induce higher-IQ and more productive people to have more children (to counter their higher opportunity cost in the market place), and induce wealthier males to sponsor women's baby projects (for the benefit of society in the long run) instead of pumping-and-dumping young women for short-term hedonistic pursuits; that (the high cost of raising children reducing the number of young women that the wealthier men can have relationship with) in turn will also leave more young women intact to be married by guys who want to get married.
34   Bd6r   2018 Feb 28, 3:09pm  

Quigley says
insistence that making America less white will bring about the liberal utopia

Texas 23rd congressional district - representative Will Hurd (R). District is 55% Hispanic, 41% non-Hispanic white and left-wing utopia has not arrived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas%27s_23rd_congressional_district
35   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Feb 28, 3:12pm  

As I've been saying, we're already seeing the signs that Hispanics won't be the solid permanent Democratic block the Left expects.
36   anonymous   2018 Feb 28, 3:16pm  

mell says
Automan Empire says
Oh, Reddit...

I'm a regular reader and contributor to TRP, but I find myself rather critical of some of the factions, namely race realism and some of the unsupported pseudoscience.

The above quote is patently ridiculous, and contains several incorrect presuppositions such as that political affiliation is deterministically passed on genetically. A simple napkin calculation shows that liberals would be vanishingly rare today if this was true.


It's not a given, but it's more likely to happen that way. Look at Gen-Z, they are staunchly conservative already.

Automan Empire says
and a declining fertility is a sign of a weak group of people with a dark future.


Funny, most demographers and sociologists find this a sign of prosperity ,education, and upward mo...


How are we defining liberal and conservative?

Does anybody know?
37   dublin hillz   2018 Feb 28, 4:27pm  

Hey "Red Pill" is appropriation from the Matrix and a language abuse at that - the producers of the movie meant to convey the conformity of various institutions such as work, church, paying taxes - instead the marauders stole the ideas to promote 19th century and prior world view regarding race/gender and tried to present it as some sort of "awakening" hoping that no one would notice!
38   dublin hillz   2018 Feb 28, 4:30pm  

Automan Empire says
Another grossly wrong presuppostion. I can't take this essay seriously.


The "essayist" it turns out is a ukranian immigrant residing in california, he sounds like a neo-nazi - where is the "wall" when one really needs it?
39   Shaman   2018 Feb 28, 7:55pm  

dublin hillz says
he sounds like a neo-nazi


That sounds like Left-speek using “Nazi” and “Hitler” and “racist” to shut down ideas that defy Leftist thought.
40   Bd6r   2018 Mar 1, 8:12am  

Quigley says
That sounds like Left-speek using “Nazi” and “Hitler” and “racist” to shut down ideas that defy Leftist thought.

Actually, the problem is that this immigrant is "legal" - if he would be illegal, left would be fine with him. Let illegals in and kick legal immigrants out.
41   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 4, 8:59am  

Birthrates by Women (White Women in Parenthesis)

Extremely liberal (2.5%) — 1.61
Liberal (12.7%) — 1.72
Slightly liberal (11.3%) — 1.58
Moderate (39.9%) — 2.14
Slightly conservative (15.6%) — 2.03
Conservative (14.3%) — 2.34
Extremely conservative (3.7%) — 2.62

https://medium.com/@ryandelongpre/how-liberals-are-breeding-themselves-out-of-power-f9bf3a2edca8

#Demographics
42   mell   2019 Mar 4, 9:57am  

This is very much true. In a way Muslims are extreme hardcore conservatives - obviously to the point where it hinders progress and wealth) - and it is one fo the greatest leftoid schisms ever that they are now fighting all moderate conservatives and are accelerating their own extinction by submitting to their future hardcore conservative/religious invaders. You really can't make this shit up.
43   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 21, 9:32pm  

Name a non-European country that embraces Diversity and tries to import as many Whites (Or East Asians or Educated South Asians) as possible. Very few.

Or for that matter, any non-European country that "Embraces Diversity".

Look at what is happening in Brazil, which in 1950 was 60%+ Pure White and now only 45% White. The demands for racial redistribution are growing; only a miracle brought in Bolsanaro.
44   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 30, 11:43pm  

This is just the first taste of what awaits the Left, who think everything is going to continue to go their way and gain steam at that. It was the 30% of Methodists from Africa who turned the tide solidly against the UMNext. Forever. And that's after a huge self-exile of the older, more Conservative Methodists; some might come back.

https://patrick.net/post/1318496/2018-08-27-liberal-churches-collapsing#comment-1594501

The Anglican Church is facing similar difficulties: The Hard Left dominates today, but have no kids. The Anglican Jamaicans, Nigerians, Kenyans, etc. have tons of kids - and are far more religious and traditional. Wireframed Glasses Vicars and Pink Haired-at-50 Bishopettes do not. That's the next front.
45   Goran_K   2019 May 31, 9:36am  

- Brazil
- Italy
- Australia

All have elected conservative leadership and have thrown off the chains of leftist globalist policies in the past 12-18 months

The world has seen the failure of leftists policies, unmitigated immigration, and Islam. This is not a trend that will reverse itself in our lifetimes.
46   mell   2019 May 31, 12:01pm  

This conservative movement would not have enough legs without many immigrants and non Whites supporting it as well. Once you're established and a producing member of society this is in your best interest as well. Of course the majority of Whites voting for it is necessary but they need to start breeding again at a high enough rate before they can push this through by themselves. There's plenty of woke blacks and immigrants supporting the concept of nations and thus their own well being, they just need to be mobilized to vote and the voter fraud on the left needs to be stopped.
47   mell   2019 May 31, 12:34pm  

OccasionalCortex says
mell says
Of course the majority of Whites voting for it is necessary but they need to start breeding again at a high enough rate before they can push this through by themselves


Uh, you might want to scroll up and read the above about conservative white women fertility rates vs those of libtard women.


Yeah but many kids get indoctrinated in school (esp. womym who are easier manipulated and want to be part of the herd think) and become leftoids later. Generally the western world needs higher birth rates vs those of immigrant cultures that are incompatible and making up for those you lose in the indoctrination camps.
48   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 31, 12:48pm  

mell says
Yeah but many kids get indoctrinated in school (esp. womym who are easier manipulated and want to be part of the herd think) and become leftoids later. Generally the western world needs higher birth rates vs those of immigrant cultures that are incompatible and making up for those you lose in the indoctrination camps.


Well, this is really the crucible.

In birthrates, while overall it is declining, it is above the replacement rate for conservatives and well below for liberals.
Immigrants are encouraged not to assimilate and K-College is dominated by Lefties.

This is why I've been saying the two key battles are Controlling Education (which states have unbelievably strong powers) via controlling tenure and curriculum, and the Courts.

Almost every major Leftist victory - from banning Bible Readings/Prayer to Establishing One Medical Procedure as a "Right" - has been done through the Courts, not via the elected Legislature. Almost every attempt - successful or not - at stopping immigration control has also been pushed by the Courts.
49   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 31, 12:49pm  

mell says
Yeah but many kids get indoctrinated in school (esp. womym who are easier manipulated and want to be part of the herd think) and become leftoids later. Generally the western world needs higher birth rates vs those of immigrant cultures that are incompatible and making up for those you lose in the indoctrination camps.


Mell, you might be interested in this great piece I found the other day about why Slut Shaming, rather than Cad Control, is the only way to keep Hypergamy under control:

"We are Trapped on Slut Island and TradCons* are our Gilligan"
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/we-are-trapped-on-slut-island-and-traditional-conservatives-are-our-gilligan/

* This was written before cuckservative was coined, which is closer to what the Author was aiming at.

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