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Onvacation says

marcus says

put together lists of the most heinous lies ("fake news") the main stream media has perpetuated about Trump.

1.) Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election from Hillary.

What fake news indeed, haha.

Marcus, when there are massive arrests of those who acted criminally to frame Trump, will you admit you were wrong? What empirical evidence would convince you that you've been lied to?

It's easy to see if you ignore the propaganda

Onvacation says

Does this mean i win?
marcus says

2) you're beyond hope.

Marcus always reverts back to his class room when he loses an argument. We talked about Obamacare for months. As soon as he realized I was right about everything.
He treated every post I made like it was an Essay for my final grade.

Tenpoundbass says

He treated every post I made like it was an Essay for my final grade.

Just becasue of you're spelling and grammar?

It looked like a possibility and it still does, just not directly and provably connected to Trump himself.

The only real facts on collusion are that Hillary paid a foreign spy with Russian connections to create a false dossier. This was foreign collusion to hurt Trump and help Hillary.

marcus says

Mueller concluded that they could not prove

You should have just stopped there. I'm not a Trump fan boi, but my god, it's time to move on. He's not a perfect president and actions he takes have almost zero bearing with what goes on in your life besides emotions. Can you name just one decision he has made that has effected you personally?

marcus says

It looked like a possibility and it still does, just not directly and provably connected to Trump himself.

Do you BELIEVE in Russian collusion, global warming, bigfoot, and other things with little or no evidence?

Mueller concluded that they could not prove the purpose of polling data that Manafort gave Russians was used in Russia's internet meddling in the election.

Is giving polling data to anyone, a crime? What does purpose have to do with it? And you are being disingenuous, the Steele Dossier was used to get the FISA warrants, not Manafort giving polling data.

Can you name just one decision he has made that has effected you personally?

Can you name just one decision Trump made that benefited the Russians?

marcus says

But otherwise, everyone knows that the PResident alone has only so much infuence on the economy. THey say the market climbs a wall of worry

Via legislation perhaps, but Trump has renegotiated our trade deals w amazing success. He also passed a farm bill that is sparking a hemp revolution, as well as removed some of the most obvious limitations of Obamacare resulting in HC costs dropping for first time in memorable history.

Trump is doing a damn good job.

Maybe if the Dems would stop obstructing his presidency w fake Russia hoax'es, he'd be able to actually end these perpetual wars-- more than making up for the normal Republican big govt spending crap (which is indeed bad).

IT would be treasonous in any case to have colluded with Russia to win, even if Russia got nothing more out of it than burning Hillary.

So do you think Hillary's collusion with British National Steele and the Russians to create the Steele Dossier was treasonous?

marcus says

IT would be treasonous in any case to have colluded with Russia to win, even if Russia got nothing more out of it than burning Hillary.

The problem with all this shit is the word collusion. The US president is a worldwide figure. Yes, we get to decide who that person is, but EVERY recent president has used foreign influence to help them get elected. Obama included. It's standard. There are sooooo many multi-national corporations, that you'd be shooting yourself in the foot if you didn't seek out foreign help to get elected. When did standard practice become such a problem? And a 2 year investigation found nothing on a NYC real estate developer? Let it go Elsa.

HeadSet says

So do you think Hillary's collusion with British National Steele and the Russians to create the Steele Dossier was treasonous?

Crickets.

marcus says

Yeah, like when dumbfuck Obama said we had more then 50 states in the Union? I agree, should have been kicked out of office.

marcus says

IT would be treasonous in any case to have colluded with Russia to win

Is it treasonous to take millions from lobbyists on behalf of foreign countries?

marcus says

Wasn't California supposed to be in a drought FOREVER! And the snow, the snow was going to be something our children would never see. I skied this morning in California.

I am on vacation flipping through channels and CNN and MSNBC are STILL talking about how Trump obstructed the Russian collusion investigation and should be impeached.

How long before facts overwhelm your false narratives?

Does explain the record cold temperatures last winter.

marcus says

Only absolute morons allow their children to be raised by the TV and media.

marcus says

I would say the economy and market are doing well in spite of Trump, rather than becasue of TRump.

So much for Obama's new normal.

"You didn't build that".

And it's B E C A U S E!
Just because!

jazz_music says

Scientists: Ocean Temperatures Rising Faster Than Previously Thought
https://www.voanews.com/science-health/scientists-ocean-temperatures-rising-faster-previously-thought

Your article doesn't say how much the ocean has warmed. The alarmists always leave out such details or talk about "anomalies".
The general public does not realize that the temperature has only gone up at most a couple of degrees in the last couple centuries and is in fact now cooling.

Heat waves always bring out the alarmists. Record snow, not so much.

marcus says

Notice how in the midterms the Republicans added to the Senate, but lost in the House. Senate districts are entire States, which cannot be gerrymandered. The Dems gained in Representative districts that can be gerrymandered. Seems that the "gerrymandering" was for Democrats.

HeadSet says

Notice how in the midterms the Republicans added to the Senate, but lost in the House. Senate districts are entire States, which cannot be gerrymandered. The Dems gained in Representative districts that can be gerrymandered. Seems that the "gerrymandering" was for Democrats.

They won those districts because Black Democrats are all deeply rooted in all of those district's Board of Elections.
It would be considered Racists to Challenge them taking the boxes of ballots and going in a back room and locking the door for 3 weeks while they manufacture votes. It would be racist and illegal to challenge the Black Election workers loading boxes of Ballots in the back of a Uhaul truck and taking it to the dump. It would be a hate crime to suggest they are not honest and on the up and up and there aren't any Hankey Pankey going on.

Trump needs to break some fucking hearts before the 2020 election. Purge the voter roles, and institute a unified Federal Photo Voter ID. Then for all Federal Elections have Supervisors and Observers that must be allowed all access where the ballots and any official goes. Under Federal law and violating that law should bring 30 years in Federal Prison.