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I still think there is at least a 25 percent chance that he is still alive, swapped out for a prepped cadaver, and all this death crap is a show. The idea of protecting a notorious and now publicly known intelligence asset rather then boldly killing him wouldn't go down well for spy morale, although in foreign countries CIA officers can pretty much dispose of their assets any way they see fit when their utility wanes.

Ceffer says

I still think there is at least a 25 percent chance that he is still alive and all this death crap is a show.

I heard a report today that seemed a little to cheap to accept at face value. It was reported that his "Estranged" brother, was brought in to identify his body.
It would have set better if they said his finger prints all match up and they explained away why his earlobe and inner ear and nose is misshapen from his latest live photos.

Sounds like suicide by hanging

Ceffer says

I still think there is at least a 25 percent chance that he is still alive

Possibly, although he would still be a huge liability if they were to let him live. I can't be sure someone didn't touch up the photos to make it look like it wasn't Epstein to spread a conspiracy theory. The last CIA asset that was used to blackmail congressman and senators was Craig Spence and he definitely committed suicide, like a good solider.

More about Craig Spence: https://mojomorning.blogspot.com/2018/07/d-c-madam.html

The main problem with these guys is they are so grandiose, narcissistic, entitled and spoiled. It is probably impossible to get them to cooperate even if it's their own survival.

Ghislaine's recent antics seem to indicate he could still be alive, but of course, could just be disinformation since she is most certainly part of the spook-plex herself.

The inability to distinguish between fact, fiction, rumor, etc. etc. is all part of the disinformation game. The coroner's report means nothing except that the pathologists know not to poke the dragon. They are all politicians, too, or they wouldn't have their jobs to begin with. From the fog emerges more fog, except the clear window that we have no rule of law, just selective interference, thuggery, and frame jobs worthy of any historical tyranny or tin horn third world despot.

The Bethesda pathologists were intimidated over Kennedy, and Clinton had Fahmy Malik in Arkansas as pathologist, who covered up any number of murders by Clinton's State Crime Organization with completely absurd official conclusions for the record. I liked the guy who was shot in the chest several times with a shotgun being ruled a suicide. Another was ruled a drowning accident. His head was found later and was determined to have been cut off.





In addition, Michael Baden testified before Congress about the Kennedy assassination that he found that Kennedy had been shot only from the rear, and that the 'head shot' was from behind, and the 'throat shot' was an exit wound. Baden can shill with the best when called upon to do so. He's a fame whore who will play along.

www.youtube.com/embed/ZgoLu1zuCb4

Epstein's masters would benefit most from him being BOTH alive AND dead: Dead in the eyes of the public and official process, alive to debrief, disarm and interrogate behind the scenes. They could always kill him later, with him already being dead and all. Maybe Epstein is being tortured as we speak.

Cyril Wecht is dubious of the Suicide conclusion

https://news.yahoo.com/forensic-pathologist-cyril-wecht-revelations-145143957.html

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

It was MICHELLE! OBAMA! and HER! IMMENSE! DEATH! BUTT! who TWERK! DECAPITATED! Epstein while IHLARY! looked on and dido'ed herself flamboyantly.

Sadly that sums up Democratic party today pretty well, considering their priorities.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Epstein while IHLARY! looked on and dido'ed herself flamboyantly.

Passed out after wanton and lascivious multiple orgasms and stump fucking with her barbed wire knobby strap on! Insensate tongue lolling at it's best.

One of the things that cracked me up was the footage of John McCafee flying his drone over Epstein's island.
John is no innocent himself https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-mcafee-accused-of-rape-and-murder-in-explosive-new-doc

Jeffrey Epstein shipped $100K cement truck to 'Pedophile Island' three weeks before damning expose was released, paying for machine up front so it would arrive quicker, as experts say he could have 'literally covered up evidence'
Jeffrey Epstein shipped a $50k cement truck to his private Caribbean island Little St. James on November 7 last year, DailyMailTV can exclusively reveal
Epstein sent the machine with an Express Bill Of Lading, an unusual and expensive way of shipping an item so that it arrives quickly
The 66-year-old, who died by apparent suicide on Saturday, was in such a hurry that he paid for the machine up front so it would arrive sooner
Three weeks later the Miami Herald published its expose on Epstein on November 28, which eventually led to Epstein being arrested in July
Shipping experts told DailyMailTV that the possibility that it was 'used to literally cover up evidence cannot be discounted'
Other items sent to Epstein was a tile and carpet extractor that weighed 191 lbs and was sent to his New York home from the US Virgin Islands on March 11
Epstein also had an industrial shredder sent to his island in 2008 shortly after reaching a controversial non prosecution agreement in Florida

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7361297/Jeffrey-Epstein-shipped-50K-cement-truck-Pedophile-Island-cover-evidence.html

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/epsteins-former-cell-mate-nicholas-tartaglione-is-receiving-threats-from-prison-guards-to-shut-up-and-stop-talking-about-epstein/

“According to reports Epstein told authorities someone tried to kill him in a previous incident weeks earlier.

Epstein is said to have feared Tartaglione and the former Briarcliffe Manor cop was questioned following the pedophiles previous suicide attempt in July.

Judge Jeanine Pirro said Monday night to Tucker Carlson

People say he tried to kill himself, he definitely committed suicide. That’s not true! Because HE SAID Nicholas Tartaglione the cop in the cell originally beat the hell out of him. I knew that probably as true because I knew Nicholas Tartaglione. He was a cop when I was a DA in Westchester. Would it be like him to slap this guy around? Without a doubt. That’s number one. And number two the fact that he was very upbeat with this attorney, said I’ll see you Sunday. All of these facts need to be looked at to see if this was a homicide versus a suicide.

And now Tartaglione is being told to “shut up” or else.”

Jean-Luc Brunel missing

https://americantruthtoday.com/left-news/2019/09/02/key-witness-in-jeffrey-epstein-case-vanishes-without-a-trace/

Epstein isn't dead.

Ceffer says

Epstein's masters would benefit most from him being BOTH alive AND dead: Dead in the eyes of the public and official process, alive to debrief, disarm and interrogate behind the scenes. They could always kill him later, with him already being dead and all. Maybe Epstein is being tortured as we speak.

He has proven himself to be a highly valued intelligence gathering asset..why kill him?...change his appearance which is not hard at all in 2019 and at the minimum, use him as a trainer for the next wave of operatives.

Even disregarding the preliminaries leading up to the 'suicide', there must have been at least 25 people involved in the chain of custody after from Epstein's removal to the emergency room. Just like everything else, POOF just all gone as if they NEVER EXISTED. No reports, no inquiries, no witnesses, no interviews of dispatchers, doctors, nurses, paramedics, janitors, et alia, all who must have been in said alleged emergency room at the time, just a lone picture that may not even have been Epstein on a gurney being rolled into a hospital by some fake paramedics (Military?) and "official" reports from two pathologist, one the New York politician coroner and the other the known pathology shill Biden, both of whom probably had heavy fingerprints of the Deep State on their necks. No reports from all those FBI agents combing the island or the various Lolita Express', either.

So, nobody knows or will know anything about murder, suicide, secreted away alive etc. etc. except that the whole theater was bogus and obviously manipulated from on high from beginning to end. Flagrant and shameless government crooks and hooligans now just operating out in the open with barely a fig leaf, and the legacy press well controlled and in tow. Those are the only things we know and will probably ever know for certain.

Boss Hawg Barr will also only generate head fakes, if he even bothers to generate anything at all, from the incident.

I'm waiting for the same old tired reasoning....."it couldn't be true...too many people involved...someone would have said something or reported it to the news".

There were a lot of people in his rich pedo club. I wonder if he had connections to Ed Buck, or they are unrelated pedos.

Gonna be down in St. Thomas in a couple weeks. Got a boat rented. Should I see if the captain will take us there? lol. Dead serious, not an internet lie. It's part of US territory so isn't it the high water mark or something? I should technically be able to check out the beach at least and see what kind of push back there is.

WookieMan says

Gonna be down in St. Thomas in a couple weeks. Got a boat rented. Should I see if the captain will take us there? lol. Dead serious, not an internet lie. It's part of US territory so isn't it the high water mark or something? I should technically be able to check out the beach at least and see what kind of push back there is.

@WookieMan Yes, please do!

Would really love photos and a report on patrick.net.

Breaking News: Humpty Dumpty fall no accident, Humpty had incriminating evidence on Clinton and Rodham families.

Patrick says

@WookieMan Yes, please do!

Would really love photos and a report on patrick.net.

I leave Saturday. Boat Monday. One of the ass hats in our group doesn't have a passport, so we're USVI on the boat strictly. So that limits us and might free up time to check it out.

Gonna call the captain tomorrow or Saturday and plant the seed of at least a drive by. Then I'll feel out the rest of our group. They all are friends, but some are clients, so you kinda gotta tread lightly with pedo island visits, lol.

Just went on google maps. They're blocking the link to click the reviews for Little St James (pedo island) specifically the Ledges of Little St. James. Leave it up to google to block reviews of a pedophile. Need to do some last minute research on beaches/island. Pretty sure it's the average high water mark. Maybe anchor and snorkel ashore. We'll see.

They'll make it a museum someday and charge to see Epstein's collection of underage pickled pubescent hymens.

Of course, Jeffery is probably just healing from his plastic surgery right about now and is picking the climate and geography he would enjoy for his anonymous retirement.

he's not dead

komputodo says

he's not dead

Conspiracy theories are weird. They usually take with a certain element and stay somewhat in the headlines (9/11 for example). This Epstien conspiracy has fallen off the map because of impeachment "inquiry" lol. Weird... FYI, I think he's alive too.

https://www.theunshackled.net/rundown/jeffrey-epstein-lookalike-spotted-on-epstein-island/

There’s a pretty decent quality drone video on this link. Couldn’t see much about the guy supposed to be Epstein. But I guess it could be him. It makes as much sense as him dying suddenly of suicide and a broken neck. Sticking him back in his island and telling him to stay put seems like something the elite mafia would do.

I was on the water last Monday (not yesterday). We went by and did a slow boat by. I got more photos of other parts, but had to post the temple here. It was a bit choppy and have almost lost my drone on a boat before. Not worth a $1,400 loss for you imbeciles... ;) So no drone footage unfortunately. I was also hammered with a group of 14 of us that probably didn't want to wait 30 minutes for me to drone the place. I do regret it though.

Fucking amazing though when you see it up close. How someone can amass that much wealth to own that. The scale of how much real estate it is and the location it's in. Boat captain was saying he owes the island to the north too. Born and raised in St. Thomas, so I tend to believe him (it's probably public record anyway or has been reported on).

Could you see the bonfire scars where Barr and the FBI destroyed all the evidence on the island?

Ceffer says

Could you see the bonfire scars where Barr and the FBI destroyed all the evidence on the island?

Unfortunately no. Fucking nice island though. Thing is fucking huuuuggggeee.

As billionaires do, they figure out ways around the law. Asked if we could swim up to the beach. He said no. Epstein put rocks on the beach (large ones), so at the water line it was no longer a beach. This is from the captain. Could be BS, but I actually think it's true as there were enormous rocks on the beach, at the water line. I also don't think he wanted to fuck around with it.

Apparently this was a point of contention years ago when he purchased the island with people coming to his pedo... errr... I mean beach.

i wonder if they are going to let the underground Epstein come back for nostalgia visits to hump underage RealDolls?

Patrick says

WookieMan says

Gonna be down in St. Thomas in a couple weeks. Got a boat rented. Should I see if the captain will take us there? lol. Dead serious, not an internet lie. It's part of US territory so isn't it the high water mark or something? I should technically be able to check out the beach at least and see what kind of push back there is.

@WookieMan Yes, please do!

Would really love photos and a report on patrick.net.

For me this invoked dreams of patnet growing into a grassroots anti-globo-homo activist journalist and info launching pad. And we had a cool anti globo homo icon too.

WookieMan says

Unfortunately no. Fucking nice island though. Thing is fucking huuuuggggeee.

Epstein didn't own it.

He was running a child rape ring which was being used to blackmail politicians and other people in power. Nobody knows how Epstein made his money because he didn't make his money. "His" house in NYC was a gift to him from the Rothschild family.

He was removed from the cell (either murdered or just removed) not to protect his victims (either child or blackmailed), but to protect the child rape ring he was running so the people who were being blackmailed could still be blackmailed. He was removed by the intelligence agency (or agencies) that controlled him.

He may be alive, he may be dead, it doesn't matter - the ring is still in operation, and it's just moved. The people who are being blackmailed KNOW they are being blackmailed, doesn't make any difference to them. They know they're being filmed whenever they take part, and they don't care because they know they are owned.

That's your government boys and girls.

Go ahead, try to find out who ended up owning his properties after his "death".. 10 to 1 it is either entirely impossible to find out, or it will be a shell holding company.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-homicide-autopsy-michael-baden.html

A forensic pathologist hired by Jeffrey Epstein’s brother disputed the official finding in the autopsy of his death, claiming on Wednesday that the evidence suggested that he did not take his own life but may have been strangled.

The New York City medical examiner’s office concluded in August that Mr. Epstein had hanged himself in his jail cell while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges.

But the private pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden, said on the morning TV show “Fox & Friends” that Mr. Epstein, 66, experienced a number of injuries — among them a broken bone in his neck — that “are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation.”

“I think that the evidence points to homicide rather than suicide,” said Dr. Baden, who observed the autopsy done by city officials.

Why would anyone ever have wanted to murder such a wonderful guy as Epstein?

Oh yeah, his deliberate entrapment of many powerful people through under-age girls. That could be it. Just a hunch.