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NoCoupForYou says

That was another red line that was crossed. All Obama did was launch ineffectual attacks prefaced by abundant warnings. We let ISIS know we were bombing their convoys 24 hours in advance...

Yeah, I remember that. It's quite outstanding how much support and political capital Obama had when he started and how poorly he applied it. He could've had majority follow his most drastic decision.

mostly_reader says

richwicks says

The supposed Ghouta chemical attacks happened in August. This was a false flag to give the Obama administration an excuse to attack Syria

Prove it. Or is "Genie Energy signed a deal with Israel in early 2013 to mine the oil of the Golan Heights" (the part that Israel already occupied at the time) your proof? An example of 2 and 2 that we stupid mother fuckers (per you) can't put together?

You're not a moron I'm certain, but you're gullible. Obama announced BEFORE the Ghouta chemical attacks, that if chemical weapons would be used, it's a direct invitation to war with the United States.

So, how the Ghouta chemical attacks help Assad? Tell me, what was his motivation to use them?

Let's say he's just bloodthirsty and wants to kill people - why not use his military and airforce? Why chemical weapons, to kill civilians? Why? How does this help him in any imaginable way?

And you're like, how can you be so cynical? This is what passes for proof to an American today:

www.youtube.com/embed/fBgViIGLo-w

If the US had actual proof, you think this would be presented to the public? They don't even care if you believe them or not. What I find absolutely bizarre, is you believe them. They lie to you constantly. Where's that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet? Oh, conveniently it was moved to Syria...

Do you remember years ago when Trump was running and he asked "what the hell is wrong with working with Russia to bomb the hell out of ISIS"? Remember that. Trump, and whoever is backing him, knows as well as I do what is really going on. At the end of this we're going to have to have a peace and reconciliation panel.

Do you know why Trump calls it fake news? It's because it is, all of it.

>richwick

You do understand that Genie Energy and their operations in Golans weren't affected by the war, right?

Your "proof" went on and on about all the big shots at the top of Genie Energy. I'm here to tell you that nobody cares because it's not proof. Unless you already live in this alternative universe where you are smart, everyone else is gullible, government is a mob because it is, and that annoying medical personnel is the only thing that stands between you and world domination.

mostly_reader says

>richwick

Your "proof" went on and on about all the big shots at the top of the corporation. I'm here to tell you that nobody cares because it's not proof.

I'm asking you, why would Assad use chemical weapons? And you have no answer because he wouldn't. Even to you this is obvious.

Your government has a history of lying. Weapons of mass destruction was one, another was "Qaddafi is about to cause a humanitarian crisis" - remember that one? Well it's in civil war now, and has slavery markets - don't we "have to stop the humanitarian crisis"? Ukraine didn't have a revolution they had a coup started by the United States. All of Ukraine knows this. Remember when Russia supposedly invaded Georgia?

Engh, even when the tell you what they are going to do years in advance. It's remarkable.

https://archive.org/details/RebuildingAmericasDefenses/page/n7

I think it's pointless. People are too ignorant. That really is the problem. You substitute trust to cover up for ignorance. Edward Bernays knew people would do this. He even talked about it in his book Propaganda.

Ever seen the psychology experiment where everybody on the elevator faces the back of the elevator to see if an unsuspecting passenger will conform? You'd conform, and I wouldn't. You know your government lies, you know there are direct interests of previous government officials in seizing the Golan Heights, you know Assad would have nothing to gain by using chemical weapons against civilians - but you don't have enough courage in your own intelligence to make use of it.

richwicks says

mostly_reader says

>richwick

Your "proof" went on and on about all the big shots at the top of the corporation. I'm here to tell you that nobody cares because it's not proof.

I'm asking you, why would Assad use chemical weapons?

I'm mostly_reader, not a mind_reader, so spare me this "why did he do this" thing. I'm asking you, yet again, why would you invest in paragraphs and paragraphs on Genie Energy and their leadership, and Golan Heights - one place in Syria that wasn't affected by the war. This has all signs of red herring (BOO! they have evil government at the top!) It also puts everything else that you post into a context.

mostly_reader says

I'm mostly_reader, not a mind_reader, so spare me this "why did he do this" thing.

Assad had no motivation to use chemical weapons but you continue to believe the official story from a government that you know lied you into a war in Iraq. This is apparently reasonable thinking and logic to you.

There's nothing I can learn from you and it's pointless to continue talking with you because of that.

> richwicks
I refuse to have "why do you think he did this" conversation because I'm not a mind reader.

You, on the other hand, refuse to explain your own posts when challenged. This is noted.

richwicks says

It isn't just that the Israel is an expansionist state,

Completely wrong. Explain how the Sinai ended up back in Egyptian hands, an area larger than pre 1967 Israel by itself, in return for a peace treaty.

Sadat was assassinated over it because those who opposed the "Expansionist State" want to destroy it from the face of the Earth.

richwicks says

Remember when Russia supposedly invaded Georgia?

Uh, Russia pretty much invaded Georgia. In response to Georgia's offensive again separatists, but they did indeed invade. Not even the Russians deny this.

Obama consulted with Islamic law experts to find a “respectful” way to bury Osama Bin Laden.

Trump called Baghdadi a sick dog who died like a coward.

That’s the difference between a traitor who protects terrorists & a President who protects the people.

See the difference?

Boom! This will be my new talking point.

LOL. The TDS is neverending.

www.youtube.com/embed/sw7kTeWyMHg