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The situation in China is not looking much better so far - the travel restrictions, bans, and quarantines should stay in place until it subsides.

mell says

The 2% is likely quite exaggerated since you don't catch all the infection with minor symptoms or no symptoms which of course contribute to the spread. You only catch the very sick. Outside of China only 1 person died so far out of what 300, so it would be 0.33% mortality rate. Also R0 is believed to be around 2-2.5 not 4 like previously reported or feared. It's still very contagious and nothing to take easy but it seems like the US and most other countries have been taking the right (drastic) measures so far ti curb/contain the spread.

I hope you are right. On the flip side, do you really trust the accuracy of China's reporting? Perhaps there are many more people sick than stated. Perhaps some people are dying but not being reported (this was apparently the case early on).

SunnyvaleCA says

mell says

The 2% is likely quite exaggerated since you don't catch all the infection with minor symptoms or no symptoms which of course contribute to the spread. You only catch the very sick. Outside of China only 1 person died so far out of what 300, so it would be 0.33% mortality rate. Also R0 is believed to be around 2-2.5 not 4 like previously reported or feared. It's still very contagious and nothing to take easy but it seems like the US and most other countries have been taking the right (drastic) measures so far ti curb/contain the spread.

I hope you are right. On the flip side, do you really trust the accuracy of China's reporting? Perhaps there are many more people sick than stated. Perhaps some people are dying but not being reported (this was apparently the case early on).

I think the biggest risk is that is spreads to an underdeveloped country/region with many people and then is surely there to stay. If all countries would have the same heath care and safety measures as the Western countries it would probably not pose a big threat. The again, under-developer countries may take drastic, inhuman measures if nothing else helps. We shall see, but at lest cases in Europe and the US are very low. The US has the additional advantage of controlling the points of entry, nobody can walk across the ocean.

This got me thinkng...What (if anything) could one do to prepare... even if this one doesn't spread far and wide here in the states... what would / could I do if I were in similar situation?

GreaterNYCDude says

This got me thinkng...What (if anything) could one do to prepare... even if this one doesn't spread far and wide here in the states... what would / could I do if I were in similar situation?

Enjoy life is my motto. Don't worry about this shit for the most part. If it's going to kill you, it's going to kill you. Can't enjoy life in a sealed bunker eating shit food. You're much more likely to be killed by a lightening strike or some random kid in your neighborhood shooting an arrow straight in the air and it landing on your head at this point. Way too much hype at this point.

If you're seriously worried about it, your best defense is taking care of yourself physically. Exercise, eating good foods, cleanliness, etc. If reports are true, it's killing the weak. Don't be weak would be my advice.

GreaterNYCDude says

This got me thinkng...What (if anything) could one do to prepare... even if this one doesn't spread far and wide here in the states... what would / could I do if I were in similar situation?

The Flu isn't the sickness, it's the people who want to control and quarantine 50.000.000 people because a few thousand people got sick.

The world is watching a different scourge than what is really ravishing the world. People are going to need a gun not a flu shot, before this over.

SunnyvaleCA says

The Corona virus, so far, has been about 20x more effective deadly than the typical yearly flu on a per-person basis. i.e.: 20 out of 1000 people who catch corona die whereas only 1 out of 1000 who catch typical yearly flu die.

We're still not sure how contagious Corona virus is, or, specifically, how it jumps to new victims. If it manages to spread to 10 million or 20 million people (remember, there is no vaccine), that could mean 200k to 400k people dead. Actually, if it spreads quickly to 20 million people it might overwhelm hospitals and then be even more deadly than the current 2%.

This pandemic is a month old and has an incubation period of 2wks. We have no idea what the numbers really are.

BayArea says

This pandemic is a month old and has an incubation period of 2wks. We have no idea what the numbers really are.

We don't know shit about this hoax bug. Usually by now, we have heard from people that have had it. There isn't a list of symptoms, not a consistent one.
They haven't even released names of any of the victims or interviewed their family and friends or nothing. If they said 10 people were sick and in the hospital you drive by every day.
Are you not going to want to know who in your neighborhood got sick, so you can best deal with how concerned you should be. What if one of those people was your cook at Apple Bee's last night?

I call Bullshit, and the smell gets stronger every day.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Sure. Trump's staff bursts into applause when he shits in his hand, announces DONNIE! MAKE! MOO! and eats it to his attendants' delight.


That's different because Russia.

Stock up on zinc lozenges and especially Elderberry syrup. Elderberry is remarkably effective against all sorts of virus infections. We use it whenever we feel like we are starting to feel sick, and often the symptoms will abate after taking it! I’ve killed several colds and flu just with that: it kills off much of the viral load and sort of resets the virus. But your immune system is already working on antibodies to the threat, so often by the time the virus has time to replicate again, the antibodies are ready and your system can defeat it easily.
Elderberry for the win!

Sigh, such wishful thinking on your part....

There will always be a recession, sometime in the future.

In fact, the yield curve almost always predicts it and this is no different than any other time. My prediction is after the elections in Nov.

SunnyvaleCA says

do you really trust the accuracy of China's reporting? Perhaps there are many more people sick than stated. Perhaps some people are dying but not being reported (this was apparently the case early on)

I sit by a guy who's hometown is in the next provence from Wuhan. He says it's way worse than reported and yes, people are dying in homes and being under reported. He's worried about his elderly mom but his brother is there.

He's a bio-scientist and uses Chinese language sites to get updates. He has essentially the same number reported on the John Hopkins website but hours earlier. Says the numbers being reported are, "Being managed".

Every few days he say, "It should start to flatten out soon/now". Lately you can tell by his voice that he has no confidence in that. Would suck to have family over there.

Tenpoundbass says

What if one of those people was your cook at Apple Bee's last night?

I'd be more worried about the quality of the food. Even with an infected Corona virus cook, you're more likely to die from Applebee's food....lol.

Federal Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia crumbled seven years after hosting its Totalitarian Olympics in Sarajevo.

Third Reich was destroyed nine years after its Berlin Totalitarian Olympics.

Soviet Union collapsed eleven years after hosting the Moscow Totalitarian Olympics.

Showpiece Totalitarian Olympics are a huge undertaking, huge expense. The regime is at its Peak of Arrogance to put on such a spectacle.

Once peaked, there's only one direction to go.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

MIT employs twisted maoist Chomsky who never recommended The Art of the Deal.

Yeah - Chomsky was too busy pimping for the Khmer Rouge and other Marxist psychopaths to take the time.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

State Street is a commie bank

That would actually make 'em a bit smart. Remember, the North Vietnamese Army, after the US stopped re-supplying the South, did win in Saigon.

If State Street were in a similar situation, not only will the South beat 'em with 1/3 of the firepower, but will also make Hanoi into the next Las Vegas.

No, State Street is quite possibly, the dumbest big company in existence. If it weren't for all the silos in that house, you could automate 80% of the work over there, even w/o any AI or ML tools.

What better thing to do than promote a strait jacketed loonie to run in opposition to your preferred sane candidate? Only problem, sometimes the loonie actually gets elected.

This is excellent news the RINO's have needed to be pointed out for decades. I'm glad they are offering themselves up. Saves a lot of investigative reporting.

I lived in South Carolina all throughout my childhood, my brother still lives there. They don't vote for some Commie Jack ass just because some buthurt Mitt Romney Ass Packer told them to because Trump.

They can be fooled into voting for a RINO like Lindsey Graham, but not told to vote for a Godless Commie. At least Lindsey showed up at Churches to garner the vote.

He's just following his programming. He'll claim Globalist Stockholm Syndrome.

That's actually hilarious. Troll level 10000.

I would not be surprised if the Dems tri d to impeach twice.

Yes, the air in the bubble wrap is from China, but the lead tn the product kills off any viruses......

I registered as a Democrat about six months ago just so I could vote in the Dem primary in California.
Bernie is my boy! The great ship of jackasses is listing hard to port, taking on water due to the Drats gnawing at its plankings, and its financial sails are in tatters. But the one thing that can totally snap its spine and send it to Davey Jones’ Locker is an unabashed socialist with a large following of total nut job Leftists who will turn the cannons inward and fire off a massive salvo to “cleanse the heretics from the decks!”

I did as well. Got my ballot last night. Gabard is still on it.

The Great Socialist Paradise of New Venezuela is at hand!

I didn't have to register dumbass-o-crat to do it either.

joshuatrio says

I would not be surprised if the Dems tri d to impeach twice.

I have no doubt about this.

Another carefully cultivated asset down the drain. He can always go to work for Christopher Steele.

“We recognize that the era of growth at all costs is over,” said Khosrowshahi.
Meanwhile, Uber is able to turn a robust positive EBITDA for its core ridesharing business, but its other bets have been pulling down the company’s profitability. The more revenue Uber Eats brings in, the larger the losses. This past quarter Uber Eats was able to improve its sales by 154% year-over-year, but the segment’s EBITDA was down 111%, somehow losing more than it netted in sales.

Booger says

He loved every smack!

OccasionalCortex says

“We’re losing our damn minds”

That's assuming there is something left to lose.

James Carville says:

We have candidates on the debate stage talking about open borders and decriminalizing illegal immigration. They’re talking about doing away with nuclear energy and fracking. You’ve got Bernie Sanders talking about letting criminals and terrorists vote from jail cells.

He forgot to mention the phony impeachment that was started before Trump even took office.....

Tenpoundbass says

Patrick says

I do wish Tulsi were still in it. Is she?

She got zero votes in the Iowa circus.

Too much truth-telling about Saudi Arabia.

Just got a message from Tulsi's campaign (I donated $5) they need more donations to "win big in New Hampshire." She could give Trump a run for the money but the intelligence-political-media-militairy-industrial complex would never let her win.

She's still in it but she's not going to win it.

Twice, trice, as long as it takes. It’s a power play. And will only stop when some rich fucks start getting shot.

joshuatrio says

I would not be surprised if the Dems tri d to impeach twice.