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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


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2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   195,282 views  3,372 comments

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Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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349   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Feb 28, 7:20pm  

atypical. I pretty much walk around 24/7 with low grade pneumonia though. Just waiting for an event the little bastards can take advantage of.
350   mell   2020 Feb 28, 7:22pm  

Ok but def work from home if it turns out there's community spread here in the BA. Wifey has asthma and parties and travels like there's no tomorrow. Pisses me off a bit since I'm concerned for her but we're all adults here. Darn Irish.
351   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Feb 28, 7:23pm  

Yeah, I wasn't joking about costco and working from home. Not sure that'll matter though.
352   mell   2020 Feb 28, 7:28pm  

I'm 100% WFH coder and love it but then you get stuck with doing the dishes, laundry, picking up packages, opening the door, moving cars. But it's great for a regular workout routine. Would hate to see my studios close due to CV.
353   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Feb 28, 7:39pm  

Fortunately I left the lab late 90s to become a bioinformatics coder. I hope your wife listens to you!
354   mell   2020 Feb 28, 7:47pm  

just_dregalicious says
Fortunately I left the lab late 90s to become a bioinformatics coder. I hope your wife listens to you!


I have a MS in bioinformatics but have never coded in that field. The irony. But I've been trading biotechs for a while - addicted to the research and the rollercoaster stock rides.
355   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Feb 28, 7:50pm  

I'm not surprised. You really know your $hit.
356   mell   2020 Feb 28, 7:57pm  

Thanks - likewise. Hoping to become the biotech trading partner for my buddies hedge fund one day. But the stock market is so much more than just good research. Lots of psychology at play akin to a poker game since you always only have partial info.
357   mell   2020 Feb 28, 8:01pm  

Also my interest peaked when I had CFS or PVFS of unknown origin (usually the case). I'm generally very healthy and sporty but those were the 5 darkest years in my life til full recovery. Started during the swine flu year in 2009 but can't say it caused it. Doctors were of no help - high ebv antibodies were detected. Imported immune-stimulants and started self medicating, eventually successful. Started running half marathons the years after when I couldnt jog a mile during the illness. But also can't say for sure the meds did it. Medicine is fascinating.
358   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Feb 28, 8:05pm  

I know the feeling. Spent so much cash trying to figure out why I had sinusitis and lung infections so often. Docs were clueless. Not their fault, that was pre-human genome. Pneumonia vaccination helped a lot. Also explains why the some number over 100 chicks I banged never got prego.
359   Bd6r   2020 Feb 29, 7:39am  

marcus says
I don't think it's a conspiracy against Trump.

I agree - what media needs is panic so that people would listen to them. Coronavirus is more panic-worthy than ebola (which was more difficult to transmit), bird flu, or swine flu, so they are going at it to lift their sagging popularity. They do throw barbs at Trump but that is simply their SOP - trump can say that he loves children and media will find that he says it because he is an orange raycist.
360   Patrick   2020 Feb 29, 8:51am  

I think it's an informal conspiracy. That is, not centrally planned, but the three opposition groups happening to find common ground in their efforts to fuck poor US citizens out of jobs:

1. China
2. corporate fuck weasels
3. the dying legacy media
361   mell   2020 Feb 29, 8:59am  

Patrick says
I think it's an informal conspiracy. That is, not centrally planned, but the three opposition groups happening to find common ground in their efforts to fuck poor US citizens out of jobs:

1. China
2. corporate fuck weasels
3. the dying legacy media


Yeah it is not a planned conspiracy but they are clearly exploiting it to hurt Trump. I mean what else can they do besides canceling flights, airport screenings, testing and quarantines?
362   Bd6r   2020 Feb 29, 9:32am  

Patrick says
I think it's an informal conspiracy. That is, not centrally planned, but the three opposition groups happening to find common ground in their efforts to fuck poor US citizens out of jobs:

1. China
2. corporate fuck weasels
3. the dying legacy media

@Patrick,
#1 does not make sense, if anything, coronavirus will bring jobs back to US thus making poor people here better off.
#2 and 3 - fucked in head media will use anything against Trump. If he found cure for all cancers, that would still be somehow bad.
363   Patrick   2020 Feb 29, 10:43am  

rd6B says
#1 does not make sense, if anything, coronavirus will bring jobs back to US thus making poor people here better off.


True - unless they can prevent Trump's almost-certain re-election. Maybe they are desperate enough to try this. I know it seems unlikely, but you should be paranoid in proportion to the amount of money involved.

And the money involved here is in the trillions.
364   Bd6r   2020 Feb 29, 11:48am  

Patrick says
True - unless they can prevent Trump's almost-certain re-election. Maybe they are desperate enough to try this. I know it seems unlikely, but you should be paranoid in proportion to the amount of money involved.

Their competence and intellectual abilities are quite low, which is the reason why I do not believe conspiracies in this case. Only thing they can do is slander Trump on TV with foaming mouth. They got trump elected against all odds, for Christs' sake...
365   Patrick   2020 Feb 29, 4:35pm  

Air pollution in China has dropped dramatically.



from https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51691967
366   Patrick   2020 Feb 29, 5:03pm  

https://spectator.us/donald-trump-vs-corona-hysteria/

No sooner had news of the virus emerged than the left tried to weaponize it against Donald Trump. But his response to this apparent medical emergency has been magnificent. At first, the media condemned him for taking swift action to stop flights from places, like China, where the infection was rife and growing. ‘Can you believe it? Trump restricted flights from China. What a racist!’ ...

Anyone wanting to see what patient leadership in action looks like should watch the president’s press conference Wednesday on coronavirus. He did what a leader should do. He reassured people. He presented the facts, so far as we know them. He outlined the many actions his administration was taking to mitigate danger and the various contingency plans should the disease worsen or spread more than we currently expect.

The president called on medical experts to explain various aspects of the situation. He was calm but serious, cautious but optimistic. The danger to the US at present, he pointed out several times, is very low. Currently, he said, there are 15 confirmed cases here. Fifteen. Most patients are recovering; one is in a serious condition. He also highlighted that every year, the flu claims anywhere from 25,000 to 60-odd thousand lives.

I said that Trump exhibited ‘patient leadership.’ The element of patience was paramount. Not for the first time, I was reminded that the White House press corps resembles a flock of bad-tempered schoolchildren, lazy and slightly dim, but from fancy families so firm in their sense of entitlement and outrage.

All the adults in the room were on or next to the podium. The press gaggle, desperate to find something to blame the president for, kept repeating the same questions, fighting to frame ‘gotcha’ remarks, and appearing exactly like they are: snotty, ill-prepared hacks whose goal is not to report and inform, but play smarmy partisan games. The president, just back from a trip to India, looked tired but commanding. The press looked small, sweaty, petulant.
367   Ceffer   2020 Feb 29, 5:06pm  

I'm sure the think tanks have all figured out the Monte Carlo stats on the deployments of bioweapons. However, such deployments would have the character of crude, rusty cleavers rather than fine ceramic knives.

The blowtorch of captive media attention reeks of propaganda event. It seems little early in the election cycle to precipitate a recession/depression to use against Trump, but I would have anticipated such a manipulation some time this year.

How do you engineer a recession without blowing up the world economy with depression? These media driven downturns are great buying opportunities for the elites and gamblers with ready cash to buy devaluated assets. Maybe they think they can plunder, and then navigate the ship of state adroitly out of danger? Of course, there are the benefits of imposing martial law without protest, and keeping people from assemblage. Who knows what calculus is being applied.
368   Patrick   2020 Feb 29, 5:10pm  

Patrick says
the White House press corps resembles a flock of bad-tempered schoolchildren, lazy and slightly dim, but from fancy families so firm in their sense of entitlement and outrage.



BTW, this fits perfectly with the description of the "clerisy" here:

https://patrick.net/post/1330528/2020-03-01-the-two-middle-classes

They constitute “the privileged stratum,” in the words of French left-wing analyst Christophe Guilluy, operating from an assumption of “moral superiority” that justifies their right to instruct others. This power is greatly enhanced by their control of culture, most media, the education systems—eight in 10 British professors are on the Left—and throughout the bureaucracy.
369   Booger   2020 Mar 1, 4:54am  

https://www.wfla.com/news/by-the-numbers/nearly-40-of-beer-drinking-americans-wont-buy-corona-due-to-coronavirus-study-shows/

Nearly 40% of beer-drinking Americans won’t buy Corona due to coronavirus, study shows
370   WookieMan   2020 Mar 1, 5:40am  

Flavius says
Booger says
Nearly 40% of beer-drinking Americans won’t buy Corona due to coronavirus, study shows


Just goes to show education wasn't wasted on Americans

Beer education. Corona is shit as a beer or virus....

Although they do have fantastic lobbyist. While most still call it Corona virus, at least they got much of the media to call it Covid-19 or whatever it's now being called.
371   Booger   2020 Mar 1, 10:40am  

https://www.newsweek.com/new-zealand-corona-coronavirus-hamilton-facebook-1484642

OUTRAGE AT BAR OFFERING CORONA BEER DEALS DURING CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK CAUSED BY 'SNOWFLAKES,' SAYS OWNER

The advertisement on its Facebook page shows two men in medical suits and masks holding up bottles of the renowned Mexican beer, with the slogan, "Catch some Corona at House this summer, just [6.50 New Zealand dollars ($4.20)] every day while the pandemic lasts."
372   Ceffer   2020 Mar 1, 10:47am  

Corona beer has been shown to be best for curing Coronavirus, along with all the other health and mental benefits of alcohol.
377   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Mar 1, 10:13pm  

Costco in SD was a mad house today. Virtually anything (besides food, alcohol and vodka, but I repeat myself) that you'd want in a pandemic was gone. Asians with masks. Just like TV. Lots of loud, "Do you have X?", being asked to employees. "We're sold out", "We'll have more at 10:00AM tomorrow" responses.

Employees standing around dumbfounded. Several meat department employees standing around discussing the cornavirus while I picked through the USDA prime and eavesdropped for a while. One mentioned how bad the store his brother worked at in Wisconsin was.

Definitely slim pickings for staples. Only 2 dozen large bags of brown rice left and some prepackaged sticky rice. Lots of eggs and things that will expire quicker though.

At the checkout I asked the guy if he's seen it this busy before. "Not in the 7 years I've worked here. Nothing even close." As I left I heard the next guy ask the same question.

Local Staters Bros grocery wasn't so crowded but was more than usual. Same thing though. No 70% EtOH although there were 2 bottles of H2O2 and a pack of ethanol wipes which turned out to be dried out.

No Asians with masks but a couple with cart-fulls of water. I don't know why anyone would stock up on water.

I buy in bulk so already had the stuff most people were looking for though. Just grabbed some extra food.
378   Ceffer   2020 Mar 1, 10:29pm  

It's when they start stocking up on yams and sniff your face that you have to start worrying.
379   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 1, 10:34pm  

Here in South America, the lead editorial in the biggest paper was "We all need to have our end of summer parrilla parties before the flu hits and annoys us."
380   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 2, 6:35am  

just_dregalicious says
couple with cart-fulls of water. I don't know why anyone would stock up on water.


Because people are fucking stupid.
381   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 2, 6:37am  

Booger says
https://www.newsweek.com/new-zealand-corona-coronavirus-hamilton-facebook-1484642

OUTRAGE AT BAR OFFERING CORONA BEER DEALS DURING CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK CAUSED BY 'SNOWFLAKES,' SAYS OWNER


I could not find this FaceBook page, presumably because it was taken down.
382   WookieMan   2020 Mar 2, 6:41am  

zzyzzx says
just_dregalicious says
couple with cart-fulls of water. I don't know why anyone would stock up on water.


Because people are fucking stupid.

Playing devils advocate here. Maybe if quarantines were to get strict enough, the people that maintain municipal water systems can't get to the facilities to keep them running? In that case water would be pretty essential in an urban environment where under the strictest of quarantines you probably couldn't leave the house without being arrested.

If it were to ever get that extreme (it won't) then guns are your best bet anyway.
383   mell   2020 Mar 2, 6:52am  

just_dregalicious says
Costco in SD was a mad house today. Virtually anything (besides food, alcohol and vodka, but I repeat myself) that you'd want in a pandemic was gone. Asians with masks. Just like TV. Lots of loud, "Do you have X?", being asked to employees. "We're sold out", "We'll have more at 10:00AM tomorrow" responses.

Employees standing around dumbfounded. Several meat department employees standing around discussing the cornavirus while I picked through the USDA prime and eavesdropped for a while. One mentioned how bad the store his brother worked at in Wisconsin was.

Definitely slim pickings for staples. Only 2 dozen large bags of brown rice left and some prepackaged sticky rice. Lots of eggs and things that will expire quicker though.

At the checkout I asked the guy if he's seen it this busy before. "Not in the 7 years I've worked here. Nothing even close." As I left I heard the next guy ask the same question.

Local Staters Bros grocery wasn't so crowded bu...


Proof it's great for the economy. Stocks should go up as people buy everything!
384   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 2, 7:04am  

WookieMan says
Playing devils advocate here. Maybe if quarantines were to get strict enough, the people that maintain municipal water systems can't get to the facilities to keep them running? In that case water would be pretty essential in an urban environment where under the strictest of quarantines you probably couldn't leave the house without being arrested.


(Me, looking at 18000 gallons of water in the backyard) M'kay. Now, can someone re-enlighten me on the joys of density, living in a highrise apartment building and commuting on a crowded subway....
385   mell   2020 Mar 2, 9:01am  

Not surprised Costco stock up huge.
386   WookieMan   2020 Mar 2, 10:04am  

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
(Me, looking at 18000 gallons of water in the backyard)

I've got 26k, slightly frozen right now ;) Assuming it continues to rain, my personal reservoir will supply me a lifetime of water in an emergency. And fuck cities. Did it once, won't do it ever again.

Flavius says
Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

In the states or worldwide? That's a hard bet to make. Has this virus really hit the shit holes in Africa with poor healthcare? I love this site though. They list a fucking cruise ship like it's a country... lol: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Not going to make a bet, but I actually think with the awareness it's going to get contained or at minimum treated very seriously here in the states. You'll likely have to be in poor health anyway to succumb to this virus. Reality is, most people dying from this thing would have probably already been dead without modern medicine and treatment before getting the virus. But let's keep the hype up.
387   rdm   2020 Mar 2, 10:29am  

Hircus says
CBOEtrader says
I doubt the US will see 340 deaths from corona virus.


The only way that holds is if the virus doesn't spread in the US. That unfortunately is a long shot given the apparent level of transmissibility, the fact that people can be asymptomatic, yet contagious and the stupendously incompetent lack of testing happening in the US. Note two people have already died in the US out of less than 100 confirmed cases.
388   rdm   2020 Mar 2, 10:35am  

mell says
just_dregalicious says
Costco in SD was a mad house today. Virtually anything (besides food, alcohol and vodka, but I repeat myself) that you'd want in a pandemic was gone. Asians with masks. Just like TV. Lots of loud, "Do you have X?", being asked to employees. "We're sold out", "We'll have more at 10:00AM tomorrow" responses.


That seems a bit premature, but not surprising. When PG&E shut the power off in the North Bay for three days the vibe just prior to the power coming on was like precursor to Mad Max. The whole enchilada, so to speak, is very fragile.

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