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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


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2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   187,603 views  3,363 comments

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Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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931   marcus   2020 Mar 17, 9:50pm  

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Given the testing done in SK it can be done less expensively.

And I was referring to statistical sampling, not testing everyone that has the sniffles.
932   Hircus   2020 Mar 17, 10:14pm  

CBOEtrader says
Can we admit all the stats about CV are wrong yet?

CV is not growing by 50%, or even 20% per day. The death rate isnt 2%.

If these two figures were anywhere close accurate then 1% of china would have died already.


Who is reporting those stats, and for where/when?

Or are you talking about the stats that were recorded a month or 2 ago before containment efforts started getting serious and slowed the growth down?
934   WookieMan   2020 Mar 18, 1:17am  

Reality says
Shutting down a metro area in the US is likely to result in killing more people by depression (due to both isolation and financial pressure) than the number of elderly such a policy would save.

Preach brotha. Been saying this. People hide their shit and most people don't realize how fucked up their peers are. Trust me as someone that lost a brother in law via suicide who had just gotten a dream promotion. Lots of people put up protective bubbles. I worry about my own wife right now with this lock down. She's social as fuck and even 3-4 days into the social distancing thing she's become very edgy. Not worried about suicide, but there's no reason to be doing this to young and healthy people.

Then there's the potential for shortages of life supporting drugs. Say 10,000 people can't get their blood pressure medication and 100 of them die of a heart attack. I have hereditary high blood pressure. I am healthy, active and young but blood pressure is just above where my docs want it off meds. I don't think I'm in a place where if I missed a month of BP meds I die, but there are a lot of at risk people that could. If you get 1,000 people thinking they're having a heart attack and go to the ER, isn't that a problem as well if you scale it out across the country?

I totally understand the overwhelm "potentially" of hospitals, but we could be creating more overwhelm via other methods. It's harsh and I'm biased. I have no grandparents and only my mom and mother in law as a relatively young person. I am going to avoid them for a while and have told them as much. The fact is people dying from this on average were already unproductive and a drain on our system. We can't fuck 90% of people up to save 10% that "maaayyyybe" get this and need critical care.

We don't allow kids under 21 to drink. No smoking under 18. We regulate the shit out of this country. Is it that far fetched that we can't tell 70+ people to just hunker down for 2 months while the rest of us live our lives?
935   Patrick   2020 Mar 18, 9:17am  

Since the virus affects men at a 50% higher rate than women, the liberal answer is obvious:

All men should identify as women for the duration of the epidemic! That way they won't catch it.
939   Patrick   2020 Mar 18, 9:41am  

Also interesting: China has 15% more males than females. That could have bumped up their case rate.
940   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 18, 9:42am  

Patrick says
Also interesting: China has 15% more males than females. That could have bumped up their case rate.


They also smoke like fucking chimneys.
946   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 18, 9:56am  

Woman gives false name and address, flees hospital after testing positive for COVID-19

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jersey-newark-woman-coronavirus-positive-at-large-public-health-risk

Illegal or Bench Warrant?
951   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 18, 10:03am  

What you're seeing now is basically the same as if we passed the Green New Deal
954   WookieMan   2020 Mar 18, 10:29am  

zzyzzx says

I get the joke of the meme obviously. That girl is not attractive though.

I wonder if the couples cam porn industry is going to boom now? I don't see why it wouldn't. Are there investments in porn publicly? Or is it too dirty to publicly trade?
956   Patrick   2020 Mar 18, 12:05pm  

zzyzzx says


Looks like that prize goes to Professor David Paterson, if he can prove his cure works reliably.

https://patrick.net/post/1330839/2020-03-18-australians-claim-to-have-a-cure-an-hiv-drug-and-chloroquine
958   Patrick   2020 Mar 18, 12:18pm  

OK, now what exactly is the name of the obsolete HIV drug that cures coronavirus, and who owns the patent?

The owners are either going to make a metric shit ton of money, or their patent will be violated for very good reasons.

Or maybe the patent has expired.
959   WookieMan   2020 Mar 18, 12:21pm  

Patrick says
Looks like that prize goes to Professor David Paterson, if he can prove his cure works reliably.

She is hideous though Patrick. I don't think you can call that a prize. She's painted in makeup like a clown and the face still looks shitty. I like natural beauty that doesn't need paint to attempt to look below average. I generally have no problem with tattoos, but chicks wear sleeveless stuff all the time and it looks tacky. She's a 4 at best. Stay away to avoid an STD type, regardless of her career.
960   rdm   2020 Mar 18, 12:35pm  

Patrick says

Now we know why Trump wanted to spend a billion to buy vaccine from the Germans. Stormy the 2nd, raw dog baby
961   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 18, 12:57pm  

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/03/18/we-need-those-beds-baltimore-mayor-urges-people-to-put-down-guns-after-violence-continues-during-covid-19-pandemic/

Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Used For Coronavirus Patients

BALTIMORE (WJZ) — Baltimore Mayor Jack Young urged residents to put down their guns and heed orders to stay home after multiple people were shot Tuesday night amidst the coronavirus pandemic.
962   Patrick   2020 Mar 18, 1:02pm  

Patrick says
OK, now what exactly is the name of the obsolete HIV drug that cures coronavirus, and who owns the patent?


The Australians didn't say, but other sites say that one drug is a combination: lopinavir/ritonavir (marketed as Kaletra or Aluvia, and patent expired in 2016!), and another is called remdesivir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lopinavir/ritonavir

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remdesivir

In late January 2020, remdesivir was administered to the first US patient to be confirmed to be infected by SARS-CoV-2, in Snohomish County, Washington, for "compassionate use" after he progressed to pneumonia. While no broad conclusions were made based on the single treatment, the patient's condition improved dramatically the next day,[7] and he was eventually discharged.[19]

Also in late January 2020, Chinese medical researchers stated to the media that in exploratory research considering a selection of 30 drug candidates, remdesivir and two other drugs, chloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir, seemed to have "fairly good inhibitory effects" on SARS-CoV-2 at the cellular level. Requests to start clinical testing were submitted.[20][21] On February 6, 2020, a clinical trial of remdesivir began in China.[22]

On 17 March 2020, remdesivir was provisionally approved for use for COVID19 patients in a serious condition in the Czech Republic.[23]

On 18 March 2020, the first italian COVID-19 patient was successfully cured with remdesivir. [24]


Damn, that was just today.
963   HeadSet   2020 Mar 18, 1:45pm  

On 18 March 2020, the first italian COVID-19 patient was successfully cured with remdesivir. [24]


Damn, that was just today.


You will know this is true if the Dow shoots up tomorrow.
964   HeadSet   2020 Mar 18, 1:46pm  

Baltimore Mayor Begs Residents To Stop Shooting Each Other So Hospital Beds Can Be Used For Coronavirus Patients.

What he really meant was , "If you shoot, be sure to kill."
968   marcus   2020 Mar 18, 2:33pm  

Patrick says
In late January 2020, remdesivir was administered to the first US patient to be confirmed to be infected by SARS-CoV-2, in Snohomish County, Washington, for "compassionate use" after he progressed to pneumonia. While no broad conclusions were made based on the single treatment, the patient's condition improved dramatically the next day,[7] and he was eventually discharged.[19]


One would think this would lead or would have led to rogue doctors using it more. I wonder how that works, if a drug that hasn't been approved for certain use is known to work. Does word get around ? It must right ?
969   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 18, 2:42pm  

marcus says
I wonder how that works, if a drug that hasn't been approved for certain use is known to work. Does word get around ? It must right ?


It was until all bars got shut down ....
970   Patrick   2020 Mar 18, 3:05pm  

marcus says
One would think this would lead or would have led to rogue doctors using it more. I wonder how that works, if a drug that hasn't been approved for certain use is known to work. Does word get around ? It must right ?


The Chinese guy who brought the disease to Seattle was cured when he had severe pneumonia and it was allowed out of "compassionate use". There seem to be exceptions like that.

As for word getting out, sure, doctors talk, and maybe this very post is helping.

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