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I don't think Fauci believes there's a difference between conspiracy and conspiracy theory.

"It's not a conspiracy when we're dong it flagrantly and publicly under everybody's dumass noses. LOL!"

Government numbers(always under-reported), 16+million, or 10% of workforce.

But I'm sure a virus less deadly than the flu would have caused much more suffering than record numbers being poor, homeless, and hungry.

“There is absolutely no evidence that that’s the case at all,” Fauci told NBC.
I suppose a well-crafted plan would leave evidence everywhere?

Fauci: "Toilet paper? Here's your goddam toilet paper. LOL!"

Shaman says

marcus says

jazz_music says

—keep them outraged about guns gays god foreigners

Bingo. They play the moronocracy like a fiddle.

Some people are born to be useful idiots.

Have you ever considered this is why the Democratic party pushes single motherhood, promotes terrible education programs like common core, says everybody is equal and should have equal income, and that the only reason an individual might not do well in society is because of oppression?

They create useful idiots?

You realize we're all part of the herd, and even if you know there's a cliff ahead, and the rest won't listen to you, they can force you over the abyss.

I know there's easily controlled people on both sides, but it seems only one side is actively making policy to create them.

When I was a kid in the 1980's liberals were pro education, pro science, still anti-government, and very distrustful of the intelligence agencies, and often viewed religion as a form of collectivism for the uneducated. With only regard to religion, the parties have flipped.

Bill Gates has a special iron maiden with a thousand fully loaded vaccine syringes installed. Fauci will be put in it for a few days to suffer, before Gates pushes the button to activate the syringes so Fauci can 'Die The Death Of A Thousand Vaccines' because Fauci was not successful in promoting Gates' vaccine agenda.

ThreeBays says

The man's trying to save your life, and you're all like "fuck life, I prefer to be contrarian".

You're cool then with ONE MAN (I know there's more, but he's the medical front man) controlling how you live your life? In certain areas you can get arrested or fined for doing completely mundane things. His advice has completely shut down much of the economy causing people hardship, from something that had a 99% of not hurting them. That's okay in your world?

Sorry, I don't care how credentialed he is. At some point it's a risk versus reward situation. Not one person is 100% correct and the faith put in Fauci is a bit misguided for the actual danger of the virus. It's looking like the death toll was dramatically overblown at this point. And mind you I'm one of the people that has taken this seriously, I've just had the opinion it's overblown and bull shit. This is going to go down as maybe the biggest overreaction in the history of humanity.

And everyone was worried about Trump being a dictator.... we got short stack, dry mouth ass wagon controlling national economies at this point. I think some think this is a victory. You're fucking retarded and should be shot in the face if you think this is a victory.

Rule of the New World Order: If a public official publicly decries 'conspiracy theories' to discredit (remember, this term was made up by the intelligence agencies), then it is the best sign that there is an actual conspiracy he is trying to cover up.

ALL CAPS! YES!!! NO ONE CARES!!! YEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSSS!!!!!!

jazz_music says

Ahhh SOMEone carez

Lol. No don't care. You've just been quiet for a while, and now are going ape shit on the site today. No biggie. Just an observation....

Can't tell the difference between a political figurehead doctor shilling for private interests and private doctors who might actually be concerned for your life and health? Your powers of discrimination are amazing.

Liberals have always been Snake Oil salesmen. Remember when they wouldn't let Republican Lincoln Cure Slavery?

They wanted to sure them with hot lead instead.

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ThreeBays says

The man's trying to save your life, and you're all like "fuck life, I prefer to be contrarian".

You're talking about Trump, right?

jazz_music says

A huuuge number of people have died at home and not accounted for

How do you know?

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Patrick says

jazz_music says

A huuuge number of people have died at home and not accounted for

How do you know?

Fan the flames for no particular meaningful purpose.

@HEYYOU - I was about to place you on ignore like all the others, but I need to allow you to respond and I see you haven't posted anything in a day.

I think you misjudge people, I think, based on a caricature of what they really are. Both parties are corrupt, but there is some small hope with a president that both parties hate. I'm certainly not saying that's a whole lot of hope, but it's some hope. Haven't experienced that in over 30 years.

The parties are both just criminal organizations, but they work together, and may very well be controlled by a larger criminal organization for which they compete for favoritism. Certainly they are both criminal syndicates regardless. The contract with you and them is the constitution - when they violate that, they become illegitimate, and they've violated that for decades.

richwicks says

Trump is a hail mary pass. Electing him is nothing more than a desperate attempt to avoid a real fucking revolution in this country.

Trump's Presidency in a nutshell:

www.youtube.com/embed/wr-fCLkurmk

NoCoupForYou says

richwicks says

Trump is a hail mary pass. Electing him is nothing more than a desperate attempt to avoid a real fucking revolution in this country.

Trump's Presidency in a nutshell:

www.youtube.com/embed/wr-fCLkurmk

Print out the lyrics, you can't expect me to repeatedly listen to this trying to decipher a meaning not even being certain there is one.

If it's smash the system, this particular system, all all for it. It's just a system of bandits anyhow. Destroying our federal government is exactly like breaking up a mafia gang. The only people that oppose that is the mafia gang itself and the poor rubes that think the mafia's extortion actually affords them protection.

The only important lyrics are:

It's like a shock to the System
It feels good
Well Alright.

Looks like another prediction came true: The Dems are now the Establishment Party. Who would have thought the Dems of the 1980s or 90s would be anti-rustbelt, pro-bureaucracy, pro-Regulation of free Speech, pro-war, pro-illegal, etc.

NoCoupForYou says

The only important lyrics are:

It's like a shock to the System
It feels good
Well Alright.

Looks like another prediction came true: The Dems are now the Establishment Party. Who would have thought the Dems of the 1980s or 90s would be anti-rustbelt, pro-bureaucracy, pro-Regulation of free Speech, pro-war, pro-illegal, etc.

The establishment party appears to be the pro war party, and I'm certainly against that.

I am no pacifist, if this nation is attacked we should destroy who attacked us without mercy including "collateral damage". I just don't believe that has happened in my lifetime. We are the attackers.

Tim Aurora says

NoCoupForYou says

Looks like another prediction came true: The Dems are now the Establishment Party. Who would have thought the Dems of the 1980s or 90s would be anti-rustbelt, pro-bureaucracy, pro-Regulation of free Speech, pro-war, pro-illegal, etc.

Again a rant, nothing to do with the OP.

Doesn't matter if it's got anything to do with the original poster.

It's true. The Democratic party has turned against the blue collar working class and abandoned them.

The people that grow your food, make your products do the real work to make this society function should not be off shored. We are dependent on these people. Globalism is nothing but a method to make them weak and dependent. The reality is they make everything we need and by outsourcing their labor it is making us dependent on a foreign government.

You may have complete contempt for a farmer, a machinist, a builder, but they are our lifeblood. It's not some asshole trading stocks that keeps our nation running, it's the people who produce the food and goods we need that do. We're in an upside down world - hopefully, it is temporarily. Nobody needs some asshole manipulating commodities or stocks to keep us alive. We'd have a better society those people were all 1 mile deep in the ocean. I make bit and bobbles of technology, I'm their servant and I realize that.

Tim Aurora says

richwicks says

Doesn't matter if it's got anything to do with the original poster.

Start a new thread on that and I will be happy to comment there . We are here to discuss some topic and not to rant. Otherwise , we are better off putting each other on ignore.

Why don't you start a new thread?

It's you demanding it after all.

I think this is a free throw of thought. One idea or concept leads to another. I don't want to be in a box. If you want a box, make one. Create another thread.

Tim Aurora says

Shaman says

Is this seriously up for debate? Hundreds of cases abound where this was precisely the case. It’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s the normal way that business is done!

Nobody said they were perfect. But "Inspector Generals" are not deep state and Vindaman was not deep state. Yet, whenever Trump does not like the way the bureaucracy behaves, it is given the title of Deep State.

Vindamen was a traitor to Ukraine exploiting it after he became a US citizen. He abandoned his nation, became a thug to try to extort resources and capital from his nation, nothing more. He's garbage.

He's clearly a liar. Why do you think he lied about the conversation that Trump had between himself and Volodymyr Zelensky which he wasn't even a part of? He's a traitor to his abandoned countrymen, and ours as well because he's in active engagement of raping that nation. He's garbage.

Just because he escaped the Soviet Republic as a child don't mean he's not a piece of shit. He's complicit in raping his own former nation. He's a thief.

And god fucking damnit @Patrick - why do you wipe out an entire post just because you think too much information is presented? I can see you limiting it, but you actually DELETE THE WHOLE THING. Look it from my point of view, and think "how is the moderator not fucking me in the asshole sideways?". Am I incorrect in this? You claim to support freedom of speech by with limitations you don't even define. When I step over the unobserved boundary, not only does my post get rejected, all previous versions of it are deleted as well.

If he were partisan there would be no Democrats left on this side of Jail to run for President.

What is this "Bureaucratic Oversight"? Where in the US Constitution is that?

Anyone who believes in "Bureaucratic Oversight" is essentially a believer in the Communistic false-god of Bureaucracy . . . because Communism and other similar forms of collectivism is essentially built upon the willful ignorance of the selfishness/mendacity of Bureaucracy while glorifying its alleged omnipotence. Who shall watch the watchers? Nobody watching the cabal in the Communistic/Bureaucratic system. In the American system, the President is supposed to over-see the "bureaucracy" (Executive Branch) and the President is supposed to be responsible to the people, who over-see him in elections every 4 years.

Anyone believing in "Bureaucratic Oversight" while holding an office in the government bureaucracy is essentially violating his/her own oath to uphold the Constitution . . . and therefore should be removed from office immediately, if not tossed into jail for malfeasance!

Huh? Loretta Lynch ring a bell....

@Patrick not sure if it would be easy, but you should ban paywall sites from being linked here. Pain in the ass when you want to try and get into a constructive debate and the person uses data/info that I have zero interest in paying for.

And posters can then just hide behind the fact that no one can read the damn thing to fact check it. Kind of like a boxer punching below the belt and winning fights because of it. Link to sources people can read, otherwise I'm shifting to the mindset that it's bullshit. Media companies can make money without subscriptions....

ThreeBays says

Credentials matter though. Don't you trust doctors with your life, more than laypeople who don't have any expertise, or worse, whose opinion is largely ruled by what news channel they watch?

Nope. I actually don't trust doctors at all. You trust Realtors? They've been trained and credentialed. How about trained chefs? In theory their food should be perfect because they're trained and credentialed in the field.

You're debating with someone that has been misdiagnosed by 3 different doctors for a relatively severe ailment. My father had cancer and multiple doctors fucked up multiple times over a decade with him. We're talking top notch hospitals (supposedly) in the Chicagoland region. Even the best of the best gas station cashiers will fuck up a count on the drawer and miss money. People's blind faith in credentials is hysterical. But hey, keep drinking the Koolaid because someone can read books well and test well.

but there is some small hope with a president that both parties hate

+1000. Trump is the only one wanting to stem the unfettered illegal immigration and bring manufacturing back from China. Kind of like Trump is taking elements from the Republican Party toward a Labor Party of sorts.

Nah, it just seems that way because more unethical and unlawful activity is happening on the Left. That's like saying it's racist and biased against Blacks to say they commit a lot of crime, when in fact they proportionally commit far more crime than any other race. Just facts.

Tim Aurora says

You are just gaslighting.

Nope, just telling the truth.

Liberals being racist by injecting race into politics. It's powerful and until the Left have fully exposed their true motive. They don't give a fuck about Black People, Brown People, Latino People and most of all White People. Their only interest in Race is the powerful weapon they wield it as, to get any opposition to their disastrous policies and ideas out of the way. It's a communist ploy to destroy societies and inject oppression and classicism and socialism. Where the poor are fucked, and the ruling class live in the lap of luxury. Most Democrats envision themselves as one of the guys that get to live in the big house when Communism takes hold. They have no earthly idea, they have only been pawns and useful idiots. They will be liquidated the minute a Maduro, Stalin, Bernie Sanders, Castro or Andrew Como gets in power.

Just look at how they are acting over a common cold. Your chances of getting CV19 are about the same as winning a $10,000 from scratch off Lotto ticket.

If the incoming Commie regime doesn't liquidate them, the impeding Revolt and reclamation of our Country will make sure they don't survive.

Americans are fucking awesome at doling out comeuppance.

Anyone believing in "Bureaucratic Oversight" while holding an office in the government bureaucracy is essentially violating his/her own oath to uphold the Constitution . . . and therefore should be removed from office immediately, if not tossed into jail for malfeasance!

Well put.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/dr-fauci-dr-birx-criminally-charged-know-covid-19-victims-elderly-seniors-diabetics-chose-scare-us-public-instead/

Barr is the most partisan AG ever

Have you forgotten Eric Holder? Obama's self described 'Wing Man?"